March 2015

Vespucci Movie Masks

What proper image do we need for the store? Snugeez (talk) 04:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

I took this one. It drove me crazy positioning the shot for this one, unless you want to use one of your images Snugeez (talk) 05:14, March 2, 2015 (UTC)


u wot m8 They're not talking about Saints. Row. IV. And every magazine is comparing Saints Row to Grand Theft Auto because of the first two installments. Saints Row: The Third is nothing like GTA. It's not a crime-drama game like GTA. It's a story about celebrities who fight prostitutes, emos, Mexican wrestlers (like wtf) and sci-fi anti-"gang" organization with a giant Star Wars looking ship floating above the city. This doesn't sound like a GTA Clone, huh? TheAnonim13 (talk) 21:45, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Vehicle Features

There is only one interior image of the Cavalcade. Can you identify which one the interior is for and upload the other one. Leo68 (talk) 00:21, March 3, 2015 (UTC)


The Turismo, Cheetah and Stinger were always featured in the Grotti article so I thought they were in fact made by Grotti both in the 3D and HD Universes, the pictures looks like a billboard or propaganda so it reinforced me to think this way, but you just told me now, so I will remove the Turismo, Cheetah and Stinger as 3D Universe vehicles made by Grotti. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 00:24, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

I've started a talk on the Grotti page, everybody should check it out. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 00:42, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Media Policy

Thanks. I also added the watermark restriction you mentioned. Leo68 (talk) 03:04, March 6, 2015 (UTC)


All DLCs are referred to as Online. Like I said on the talk page, all DLC vehicles are added to story mode and online. Leo68 (talk) 03:34, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Heist Crew Members

Who was that user who kept changing the order of the heist crew members? He did it again. *sigh Leo68 (talk) 04:10, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, the HCM page always listed them in cut order, so I changed it back. I think the Heists page should have it in cut order. Leo68 (talk) 04:35, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Heists Update vehicles

C'mon sir, the only part of the update only available for GTA Online are the heists themselves, the vehicles are impossible not to be in the story mode, I can't show you a proof that they are in the story mode, but so are all the other updates, tell me, have you ever seen any update showing Michael, Trevor or Franklin on them? I'll be clear:

  • Beach Bum pack: Show all vehicles, weapons and clothes for GTA Online
  • Business update: Show all vehicles and weapons available for GTA Online
  • I'm not a hipster update: Show all vehicles and clothes available for GTA Online
  • San Andreas Flight School: They didn't even mention the story mode, they only announced the flight school for GTA Online
  • Festive Surprise: They mentioned snow and snowballs for GTA Online

It's not speculation sir, it's because it doesn't make sense to develop DLC vehicles only for GTA Online, the Khamelion and Stinger GT were always in the game files, no need to get angry ;) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 14:31, March 6, 2015 (UTC) it's just sarcasm, okay?

Thermite bomb

Hey Smurfynz !
The thermite bomb is confirmed by one of R*/IGN screenshots
Take a look at his hand, It's the thermite bomb.
Also this is The Pacific Standard Job where you need 4 Principe Lectro's.
The gear for this heist involves the thermite bomb but it doesn't matters as this is leaked information.
You got this R*/IGN screenshot as proof.
Can you add it to "Heists update" page ? Funmw2 (talk) 15:19, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

PLEASE DON'T 'HELP'! I created Hidden Packages in GTA Vice City, am an experienced Wikia editor and anything you do to it just trips me up and slows the creation to a halt (or backwards). Give me a week, make suggestions on Talk:Hidden Packages in GTA Vice City, but until then _PLEASE_ STOP 'HELPING!' smurfy (coms) 22:02, March 7, 2015 (UTC)

whadiawant, a sandbox already? —wiz]


Given the lack of administrators, I think three months of patroller experience is enough for you to apply for admin. We still lack two and you fit the bill best. I think we can trust you to have the block and renaming tools. Leo68 (talk) 21:07, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. It's not unheard of that you'd get admin after a short period as patroller. I only had it for four months before I made admin. Leo68 (talk) 21:28, March 8, 2015 (UTC)


I took a look. I won't post but some of them looked cool apart from that Casco car, also leaked content doesn't list the chopper as Savage. Leo68 (talk) 04:55, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

Still looking forward to it though. The next 24 hours need to just pass, and what's worse is I'm off work until Wednesday, but I'll get a day on it. Leo68 (talk) 06:44, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE: DLC Size

That's good. I don't have a mic on my Xbox One, nor do I have any "regular" friends on it so it's good that the size difference is just a graphical thing. I don't know the technicals of it all so it's always CLICK *noice to have clarification about things like this. You know what they say, "Size doesn't matter!" Mortsnarg (talk) 05:45, March 9, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Sean, they say it's speculation to assume that the Savage is the Hind, but I have a good suggestion, why don't we check the game files as soon as the DLC is released? So it would be no longer a speculation/assumption, this can be very useful, as they just knew that the Roosevelt is called "B-Type" in the game files. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 13:34, March 9, 2015 (UTC)

STFU , stop deleting my edits. Not my fault if engrish is not my goddamn mother tongue (furthermore there is still nice people to enhance it) or if i'm not aware how  wiki(a) is working.  , stop beeing bitchy and delete when i'm trying to contribute , it's offensive and discouraging. -Akula —Preceding unsigned comment added by Avkula (talkcontribs) 00:09, 10 March 2015‎ (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

-Za Dom Spremni


He's on a permanent holiday. Leo68 (talk) 00:37, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Nice one. I haven't stopped laughing. Leo68 (talk) 00:45, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

I also translated his comment. Ouch, what an awful insult. It sounds like it was made by a three year old, and I've looked after three boys that age. Leo68 (talk) 00:52, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Avkula

Thanks Sean, I translated both your comments and it did make me laugh. He was on my talk page asking if he was justified in telling you to "STFU" because you removed his "free" posts. I was going to reply that we all have posts removed at some point but Leon beat me to it and blocked him. SJWalker (talk) 00:44, March 10, 2015 (UTC)


I'm on night shift tomorrow so tonight until 7am (it's just coming to 11 in PST) so this is my only chance until Sunday. The worse part is I have to stay awake and I'm getting bored. The kids are in bed so I'm sitting here on my computer checking V every hour. If I go to sleep now, I'll do the same on shift tomorrow. Leo68 (talk) 05:49, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Fuck, I don't want to wait another two hours. Leo68 (talk) 07:19, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Does it work on PS4? Leo68 (talk) 07:25, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

That sucks, I'm watching some footage on youtube and checking up on PSN every hour but if I want to be awake at work tomorrow I need to be in bed in 6 hours. Leo68 (talk) 07:46, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Kuruma? If it is unlocked in Online how much is it? Leo68 (talk) 08:11, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Nice. Feel free to expand on the Heist pages. I'm working on The Prison Break page so don't do that one to avoid conflicts. Leo68 (talk) 08:55, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

While you're making the vehicle pages can you add Casco? Another user wanted to but it's being linked and I'm a little busy. Leo68 (talk) 08:59, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

DomIsLive did The Prison Break video and the Casco is shown as belonging to Maxim Rashkovsky. It is the fourth setup mission and links to the inmate schedule mission. It is stolen by a gang of car thieves and it needs to be retrieved. Leo68 (talk) 09:07, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

The video was a live feed it was at 1.54.20 when they started set ups for the prison break mission. In it the Heist Planner mentions that Rashkovsky's car, a Casco, has to be retrieved after being stolen. It seemed legit enough, despite his history. Leo68 (talk) 09:18, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

You have made my month by informing me 30 mins earlier. Leo68 (talk) 09:31, March 10, 2015 (UTC)


Yeah, the standard patch is updating on my Xbox 360 as we speak. I woke up early for it, and even then I might not get to play it! But yeah, I figured there would be balaclavas, Guy Fawkes-esque masks, joker masks and a TON of other ones introduced in the Heists Update so I was doing consistently more work on that page over the past couple of weeks. I've edited a couple of the new pages and added and switched around some stuff on the Casco page. Haven't even got around to reading the Rockstar article or watch DomisLive's customary 100+ videos he has set up for new updates!  If you can help with the Masks section, that would be excellent and greatly appreciated! Have a nice day, It'll be a busy one for sure! Mortsnarg (talk) 12:39, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Cool! Well, remember, I can always help if you need it Smurfz. Mortsnarg (talk) 12:55, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Space Docker

Sorry, I never really watched Star Wars, just saw some scenes on YouTube. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 13:36, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Hey, if you think i'm not angry with the absence of all these vehicles in story mode, then you are wrong :( Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 13:47, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

Gamerspawn Trailer

Hi Smurfyz , I want to ask is this following Gamerspawn trailer is real from Rockstar games? (im forget from where but they said gamerspawn worked together with rockstar)

  • Niko Bellic
  • Roman Bellic
  • Packie McReary
  • Phill Bell
  • Manny Escuella
  • Playboy x
  • Vlad Glebov
  • Liberty City Gun Club
  • Princess Robot Bubblegum
  • Republican Space Rangers
  • Dilletante Hybrid
  • Jeremy St.Ives
  • Libert City Commercial
  • Steinway Beer Garden
  • Whiz Wireless
  • LCPD Requitment
  • Johhny Klebizt
  • Billy Grey
  • Malc

cuz I want to expand GTAIV/Trailer page and can you rename it to Grand Theft Auto IV & Episodes / Trailers or should i make a new page about EFLC trailer?. please reply me as fast as you can and sorry for my long question and sorry for ssssssssssss  cuz  a minute ago this message didnt appear in your talkpage and i test it with ssss and its appear.J GTA (talk) 18:23, March 10, 2015 (UTC)J_GTAJ GTA (talk) 18:23, March 10, 2015 (UTC)


Wait, there's no van variant of the Slamvan? I saw some pictures showing it. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 19:47, March 10, 2015 (UTC)

But it doesn't appear in your game too? If not, it's a leak, but it's coincidential, as I have seen a picture of a military patriot in the game, and no, it's not like the warstock picture, it's a 4-door SUT version of the Patriot with larger tires. This leads me to think that the next update is coming sooner than we think. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 19:54, March 10, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Smurfynz. I noticed you removed the trivia I added with the Guardian resembling Saints Row's Compensator. This is not irrelevant trivia, as in many cases Saints Row's and GTA's vehicles resemble one another or share the same name. This is stated on several pages including the Mule, Phoenix and Stallion as well as stated on the Saints Row Wiki itself. Both the Guardian and Compensator are based on the same truck. There's no reason why a Saints Row comparison should be removed. Is it okay if I add it back? Thanks in advance. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 20:23, March 10, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

Not really a Toyota Hilux, but many games have featured trucks with mounted guns. So I understand your point. However, the Ford F650 (which the Guardian and Compensator are based on) has only been featured in GTA and Saints Row if I'm correct. It's a very rare vehicle to find in gaming. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 20:38, March 10, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

Great idea. I'm with you on that. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 21:15, March 10, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

One Last Thing...

Hey Smurf. One last thing. I think since the Heists Update vehicles are exclusive to GTA Online, all picture captions saying "in GTA V" should be changed to "in GTA Online" and the "Vehicles in GTA V" category should be removed from their pages. Is this a good idea? Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 22:32, March 10, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

It's done. Thanks a lot! Also, you didn't answer me yesterday. I was suggesting to remove the Vehicles in GTA V category from the Heists Update vehicles. Is that a good idea? Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:33, March 11, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


If a user doesn't have the ability to fill out a section, why even create it in the first place? If it's just going to be empty, why not remove it until someone can correctly fill it out? Blank sections just look lazy. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 04:16, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

I removed the link what, twice? That's not an edit war. And why don't you make the page first and then add the link? It's the same amount of editing either way and looks much cleaner. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 04:45, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Or you could simply go to the main page, enter the title of the article into the the blank space under the "Helping Out" section and click the button that says "Create a new article". It's just a few clicks more and doesn't create an ugly red link on page that remains there until you finish the article. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 05:28, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Care to explain how it's "more efficent"? It's the same number of edits either way, and one way takes only one to two more clicks. And while yes, red links can show that a page is needed, it doesn't change the fact that they look sloppy and lazy. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 05:40, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

Heists Update

Just making sure everything is cool here while I take my break. I noticed the Heists Update table change, but can you re-organize into the order of unlock so;




I only got to Prison Breakout so I can't update anything after it and I have to get back to work. Thanks Leo68 (talk) 08:24, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

I got it after the set up. It notified me once it was done. No photo though. Leo68 (talk) 20:42, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

The Fleeca Job

Wow... U deleted the performance on The Fleeca Job...—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfie32 (talkcontribs) 10:04, 11 March 2015 UTC Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Thanks for cleaning it up i mowtly talk through youtube and facebook so i dont use grammer that much but when i find new info for someone thats under developed i put it in as best i can —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattemme1 (talkcontribs) 2:37, 12 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

im sorry i didnt think each heist had there own pages yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattemme1 (talkcontribs) 2:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.


I just did ;) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 14:20, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Fleeca Job

I made what you sugested and created an overview page for The Fleeca Job. Now we need to organize all this hiperlinks, I also think that we should use that chart that you put in the heists update talk page. DLVIIIL Talk 15:51, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


I don't know you, but my PS4 is very annoying when it comes to updating a game, I take several tries to update a game, the Heists Update is yet to be downloaded, it keep saying "Cannot Download" all the time. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 20:30, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Always by WiFi. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 20:34, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
No way I can do this :/ Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 21:26, March 12, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah okay, I think it's just my usual internet issues, anyway, congratulations on your promotion, I couldn't see you failing that, I knew you'd get the position so fast :) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 22:14, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


Congratulations. SJWalker (talk) 21:47, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


Congratulations, you have been promoted to Admin. Leon is sorting out the staff page and I have changed your name color to be blue, we just need to wait for a bit until it actually changes. Congrats again. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 21:48, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


Congrats Smurfy, i knew you could do it, you deserve it! :) MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:56, March 12, 2015 (UTC)


Well done Sean. If you want to protect vandalism on your staff page click the arrow next to edit to change the protection level. Leo68 (talk) 21:58, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough. I only have mine edited for safekeeping. If happened a few months ago. Leo68 (talk) 22:05, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Staff RfP

I've already requested! I couldn't help my self! :) MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 22:00, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Staff RfP

Well, you have how many people voted yes on your promotion request very quickly to thank. I'd normally of left it for a week like I'm supposed to but I thought naaa, I'll do it now. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 22:03, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

If both of them got the position we'd be a patroller up. Yes Doc said he'd apply but we don't know when. Monk put in a request that is doing well so WildBrick may have to wait for the next vacant position, but that shouldn't be too long. Leo68 (talk) 23:25, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

There's always second chances. I told WildBrick he'd be able to apply when Doc went for admin, and he told me he's applying either Friday or at the weekend. As it stands, your positon is Monk's. Doc's position is almost certainly WildBrick's, but he has to wait a few days. Given that your request went through in a few hours, one delay could mean we'd have 9 patrollers (11 if you include Istalo and Tony). It's not like WildBrick would be waiting a few months for a position. The administrator election was different. If several patrollers applied for the empty position we have now then it would require an election but as it stands only one user wants, and that leaves a position for WildBrick. I get what you're saying, he is more experienced but Monk went first and WildBrick hasn't even applied. He'll probably apply around the same time as Doc, a bit like how I applied for Tom's position when he went for Ilan's. Leo68 (talk) 01:49, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Fleeca Job

What a shame. That chart seemed helpful. Anyway, I will keep updating all heists pages as GTA Series keep releasing videos. I like to edit with their videos, so I can check for any information without needing to constantly log in GTA Online. Just remember that thanks to my grammar, you should keep an eye on my edits to do some cleanups.

Oh, and congratulations on the promotion. DLVIIIL Talk 00:22, March 13, 2015 (UTC)


Looks better. Didn't see your talk page, sorry. Leo68 (talk) 07:33, March 13, 2015 (UTC)


I need your vote here. Thanks :) DocVinewood (talk) 17:10, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Van Slamvan

Hey Smurf. The Van Slamvan does exist in-game as a well known contributor has added a picture of one! It can be added back to the Heists Update new vehicles section. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:30, March 13, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

I'm glad this van is back, it looks badass :p even though I like the Pickup more. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 21:39, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
Which heists have you played so far? Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 21:47, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

I can join, but I just tried to download the update on the PS3 and I couldn't, I'll keep trying, something is certainly wrong. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 23:34, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

It says 1314 MB, I thought it was 4 GB, wasn't it? Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 23:40, March 13, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks :) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 23:49, March 13, 2015 (UTC)

Daily Objective

It's for every sign in as a day. So when you sign out and sign back in it'll change, but it doesn't apply to starting jobs or switching sessions such as invite only. Leo68 (talk) 02:45, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

I only saw it a few times so I'm not positive.

Shift patterns and opposite hemispheres means that it probably won't work. Leo68 (talk) 03:02, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Wiki Crew

Haven't a clue. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 13:08, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

The person with the password was Tony1998. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 13:10, March 14, 2015 (UTC)


Why? & RE:Gamerspawn Trailer

Why when I write a message to you the message didnt appear on your page? im tired and im already write it third time !.and for gamerspawn please check on gamerspawn youtube , playlist grand theft auto v and scroll down  ( exploder until replay editor tutorial is their R* Social club vid ) and Liberty city commercial & jeremy st.ives probaly real from R* as its look Very Real from R* and  very  hard to make it a fanmade video ) J GTA (talk) 17:17, March 14, 2015 (UTC)J_GTAJ GTA (talk) 17:17, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Prison Break

Man, the The Prison Break page was a beast to make (just like the heist in the game). Could you please make do a cleanup there? I tried to follow the GTA Series video strategy, but I don't know if the description is clear enough. Thanks. DLVIIIL Talk 01:36, March 15, 2015 (UTC)


SHR3DDZ received three warnings, two by Sam and another by me, if he does one more garbage edit, block him please. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 01:44, March 15, 2015 (UTC)


Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christopher2142 (talkcontribs) 02:07, 15 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Agent 14

Is it just me or does he sound like Robert Bogue (Steve Haines)? Leo68 (talk) 05:55, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Dubsta 6x6

Okay, whatever. MichaelFox (talk) 10:00, March 15, 2015 (UTC)MichaelFox

Need a Little Help

I need some help customizing my Wikia Profile page on the GTA Wikia. I would prefer to discuss off-site, if possible. MichaelFox (talk) 10:42, March 15, 2015 (UTC)MichaelFox

RE:Prison Break

Thanks! Seeing how big Humane Raid is, its probably for the best make just one role each time. Do you have any images of that 5-seater Velum? I would upload one myself, but for some reason any pic that I try to upload for my current computer just says "fyle verification error". I don't know why. I also have a perfect new image for Agent 14 and I can't upload because of this error. DLVIIIL Talk 14:16, March 15, 2015 (UTC)


Sadly, yes, I tried many times and I couldn't download neither in the PS3 and PS4 :( it's so sad that I can't update it anymore and check the newer updates... That's really bad. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 15:58, March 15, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I was wondering if this weapon is really present in the game, I never saw any video showing it, however, I swear I saw one in the ING gameplay trailer, it's somewhat strange! Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 01:39, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

RE:RE:Prison Break

Nah, its all jpg, it always worked. I think it might have something to do with the file size. I tried to upload three different pics yesterday, all jpg, and the smaller one was the only one that was uploaded without any problem. I'm not home right now, maybe it has something to do with the internet here, since I never had this kind of problem with my own computer. Tomorrow I will be back home and will try again. Anyway, since I'm already here, could you please rename this page to Gavin Van Der Loop? Thanks. DLVIIIL Talk 01:40, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

John Marston

I bet you quickly noticed that John died in 1911 :p It would make more sense if Jack Marston was the parent character model, as Jack looks strikingly similar to John, however, Jack would be still too old to be a father in 1967 at his 63 years old.

Speaking of it, have you ever player Red Dead Redemption? If you didn't, buy and play it, you won't regret to play :) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 03:00, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Images/Prison Bus

I added these images because there weren't any yet that were of good enough quality or had no watermarks. It's better to have images from last gen than nothing from current gen.

As for the Prison Bus, it's the exact same bus that was in GTA V on September 17, 2013. I think we should include only newly added vehicles in the table and already existing vehicles in text below. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 21:25, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Just wondering, could you check the Blista Compact, Dukes and Stallion on the websites? Apparently their descriptions were changed with the update. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01:19, March 17, 2015 (UTC)


Thanks so much! That helps me a lot right now since I'm editing the page in another tab. Once again, thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:26, March 17, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

Blista Compact, Dukes and Stallion

Wow, really? Rockstar straight up removed content from the standard version? Damn. I'm not that concerned, since I played the X360 version and I will still receive this content once I upgrade to the current-gen, but boy, dos this show how unpredictable Rockstar can be sometimes. DLVIIIL Talk 03:49, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Since January? Well, the only update that we got between the curent-gen launch and the Heists Update, was the Festive Surprise update. If you can confirm that the vehicles were in the game when he was launched, then they were probably removed in the Festive update. Curious how Rockstar didn't mention anything about this, even with so many people noticing the vehicles sudden disappearance. Makes me question if this vehicles were even suppose to be in the standard version to begin with. DLVIIIL Talk 04:02, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
In this case, can we change the chart in this page and say that this vehicles were all supose to be exclusive for returning players from the beginning? I guess its better than say that they were turned exclusive only with the Heists Update, specially with you saying that players were already reporting the disappearance of this vehicles before the Heists Update was released. DLVIIIL Talk 05:20, March 17, 2015 (UTC)


If that is so, since I myself found it funny, I will undo my edit. I at first thought it was a childish trivia, but it makes sense now. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 06:24, March 17, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

RE: Missions infobox template

"Can you give me some input?"

Well, I stole the idea off Saints Row Wiki. I wanted to use this to make the walkthrough point out what objective goes where or just to describe an objective instead of adding it to the list. I made the infobox and I wanted to use the Wikia default bullet points for that. The problem was that that the very first one would not appear like it should - it just gave the "*" instead of the bullet point - so I tried different methods. I spent an hour or two trying to make the infobox read the bullet point like it should, I even looked at other infoboxes on other wikis to fix the problem. Had no success with it. So then I reminded myself that one of the navboxes around here used HTML tag for bullet points so I used it and it worked.

I made the bullet point template to make things easier and proceeded with the changes. I changed the infobox to include "Mission Objectives", beacuse it would be better to note them in the infobox instead of the actual page, IMO. Then I started extracting the HUD colors, changing the page layout, adding anchors, etc. I did it for only three missions for now.

"Were you happy with the design outcome?"

Yes. It's nicer to note it with a bullet point to clearly show it's separated. Some missions have an insane list of rewards that it's a bit hard to read anything when it's all in one block of text.

As for the missions objectives, depends. It actually looks nice and bit "clean", IMO. There is a huge problem with writing it though. It's Your Call isn't that bad, but Three's a Crowd looks like a complete joke. Mission objective. One line of descritpion. Mission objective. One line of description. and so on. Overall I like how it looks but there needs to be some way to make it look less clustered because the plot/walkthrough should take up most space, not the objectives. I was actually thinking of reverting these but decided to come up with another idea (but I never really did) so I didn't do it.

I might actually make up a few designs for mission objectives if something is gonna be done about this.

"Did you intend for them to be used?"

Yes. As I just wrote, it's a bit hard to read anything when the list is in one block of text so separating them with bullet points would be a better choice. Noone used them though and even I forgot about it after I got lazy and went away.

"I also notice the field only displays if there is a BP template used. A single entry with no bullet point is ignored."

Could you explain this more?

V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 12:28, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

EDIT: I've redone the infobox mission to "fix" that "it's a bit hard to read anything when the list is in one block of text". Rewards, Mission Fails and Mission Objectives are fully on their own so there is more space to not only add bullet pointed lists but also make the list a bit more readable. See The Pacific Standard Job is you want to see what I mean and how it looks like now. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 13:02, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
Something like this? -->
Collapsible mission objectives for each crew type. Doesn't take any space when it's collapsed.
As for the no-bullet, no-display, it must have been a one time bug. BP shouldn't make a field disappear if that template is missing. This infobox field was made the same way as all the others (literally copy pasted the previous one with words changed). V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 22:13, March 17, 2015 (UTC)
Since it's fixed I'll check it some other time. Probably just a random error happened.
Yeah, I also think it's way too long. Other than adding collapsible parts, not much else can be done about it though.V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 23:00, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

Hi there.

I'm sorry for the changes I made to the missions in GTA III, which, also in my opinion, made the infoboxes look terrible, and I understand your request yesterday. The above idea, proposed by WildBrick142, is actually a better one. Can you reply to me if I need to add the "todo" section for other missions in the above style.

Thank you. MarcusCheeKJ 05:27, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Is my change in this mission okay?

MarcusCheeKJ 05:56, March 18, 2015

DLC Template

I tried making an infobox to go on the DLC pages for GTA V and GTA Online but it messed up so could you take a look at it? Thanks. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:04, March 17, 2015 (UTC)

GTA Today and Time To Get Away

Nether of them even exists despite being featured from previous updates. And even so, Simeon and Martin will less likely give out two rarest missions ever, and there's like .5% chance of being shown. Its highly luck-determined, and unless you have both missions, lucky you then. Nearly everyone doesn't have both missions in GTA Online due to these two being quite non-existent at all. JohnSignature 00:26, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. Again, its widely luck-based. And today I just got a really lucky Time to Get Away mission just now. It won't be necessary, but for Heists? I'll definitely need help if you wish, though my time is rather limited due to having to go to sleep early in two hours for work training tomorrow. Also, my edits feel quite rusty, it seems. :/ JohnSignature 00:44, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Heist Infobox

For other sections in the infobox;

Preceeded by:

Succeeded by:

I may think of more but they should be added. Leo68 (talk) 01:01, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

DLC. So for example;

Business Pack:

Announced- Date of announcement

Released- Date of release

Preceeded by- Valentine's Day Massacre

Succeeded by- High Life

Leo68 (talk) 01:13, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the protagonists section is necessary. Leo68 (talk) 02:54, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Ear Piece

Alright, I thought it was just decorative clothing. I've restored the page, but it needs a good cleanup. Thanks for letting me know :) DocVinewood (talk) 10:39, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

Staff picture

Hey Sean, could you change my Staff picture to this one on your right? Thanks. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 13:44, March 18, 2015 (UTC) 
Took care of it. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 13:52, March 18, 2015 (UTC)

VC Squad Car

To prevent any reverts, I want to point out that the rear of the VC squad car resembles the

Proof that the VC Squad car rear resembles nothing like the Holden, but rather the Ford LTD

Ford LTD as opposed to the Holden VK, as you claimed Universetwisters (talk) 01:17, March 19, 2015 (UTC)

Police Car Page

I've protected the Police Car page for a day due to the edit war between you and Universetwisters. We all need to solve this without edit warring. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:28, March 19, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

Lost Slamvan

I did not have any intention of proving you wrong, I did not even know there was a debate about it. Anyway to answer your question it appears in the 'Series A - Bikers' setup, 'Series A Foudning' and can be set as team respawn vehicles in Capture modes, however it is not avialbe for purchase mainly because the vehicle is unique to the Lost Motorcycle Club and the fact that its interieror has no textures. I think I will go ahead and add that information to the page right now. (Rentedhitmanben (talk) 16:09, March 19, 2015 (UTC))

Military Images

Hey Smurf. Do you take pictures of military soldiers? We need a good image of GTA V's soldiers to replace the main image on the Military page. There should be no reason why the Air Force, which was only introduced in GTA V, should be the main image in the infobox, when regular soldiers been in-game since Vice City. Thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 17:18, March 19, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

I was thinking of using that pic too. Thanks! Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 21:09, March 19, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


Could you rename this page to its requested name? Thanks :) MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:28, March 19, 2015 (UTC)


Can you rename this video to "Rebreather in use."?

Thanks 00:05, March 20, 2015 (UTC)TheFedorableCat69 (talk)

Srry smurfynz just tried to add a trivia section to the distract cops.Aminsino (talk) 03:20, March 20, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

Re: Hacking

Ohh, thanks for letting me to know that. I've never figured out that the page has all those hacking systems. I will do some edits for their slogans, like the Data Cracker one. Camilo Flores (talk) 04:22, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Smurfynz cars

Just would like to comment that your cars look nice also congrats on becoming adminTevanoRCMP (talk) 14:25, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

Hey this is Christopher2142, on the Watch Dogs Wiki it is mentioned that a car called the Sonarus LX has an uncanny reresemblance to the design of the Buffalo since both vehicles are based on the Dodge Charger. Would that be considered Trivia by mentioning the resemblance of the two on GTA Wiki or not? Need to know before editing.

Christopher2142 (talk) 03:12, March 21, 2015 (UTC)Christopher2142

Thanks for undoing the revision I made and sorry for vandalizing this wikipedia in february I now just update the wiki with my knowledge of gta and will hopefully someday become a patroller. Aminsino (talk) 03:27, March 21, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

How do you get promoted in this wiki?Aminsino (talk) 03:30, March 21, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

What is the point of the contributions page? Aminsino (talk) 03:43, March 21, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

Trevor/Heist Unlock

I think given that RP shoots up at lower ranks, by the time you get to Series A Funding you'd have reached rank 13 already. Also, Aminsino applied for Patroller. I don't see it happening but you should let WildBrick know if he doesn't apply soon somebody else will go for it. Leo68 (talk) 05:18, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

DLC Infobox

"I'm having a bit of a play to see if I can get an embedded table in the infobox to look something like this - notice the horizontal field alignment at the bottom? >> "
Something like this? V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 13:07, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Done some tweaking around (using code from your template, obviously) and it should be ok now.V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 22:09, March 21, 2015 (UTC)
EDIT: Also added so that if a succeeded/preceded field is unused (because either doesn't apply), it will display "None" instead.V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 22:10, March 21, 2015 (UTC)
It just so happens that I attempted to copy the way Saints Row Wiki has the template (and actually copied the "display "none" if field is unused" from there) :p

And thanks for creating/renaming that tester page. It kinda annoys me the way I do mistakes that clutter up the history because I keep reverting/adding/etc.V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 22:33, March 21, 2015 (UTC)

Duke O'Death

The car resembles the Pursuit Special more than cars from Death Race (2008), and the cars in said movie that resemble the Pursuit Special are most likely a reference to the Mad Max movies. And "nearly indestructible" means that it is extremely difficult, but not impossible, to destroy. Besides, if that information is really needed in the article, it should be place in the main body of the article and not in the trivia section, due to it being semi-important information. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 04:09, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

Baller/Baller Sport

Hey Smurf. Since you are splitting the Oracle and Oracle XS, the Baller and Baller Sport should also be split. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:42, March 23, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8 

I'm not sure cause I haven't played the game in a while but I realize it is also called the Baller Sport to distinguish it from the first gen Baller. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 01:56, March 23, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


I don't wanna question an admin's decisions (specially yours) but splitting both Oracles is kinda different from Buffalo's case... It may cause a huge war, which I'd rather not be involved. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 01:43, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

It was a little contraditory when you wanted to merge Rebel with Technical, but that's okay for me, I myself wanted to keep both Oracles split, if you are going to keep the Oracle XS as a GTA IV and V vehicle, i'm down with that, that decision isn't very wrong, just questionable. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 01:54, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
There's a case which I will always disagree: Spliting Rat-Loader from Rat-Truck, they may have different names and slightly different performance, but they're the same vehicle, one is clean and the other is messed up. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 02:08, March 23, 2015 (UTC)


I have decided to apply for the temporary bureaucrat spot. Can you vote on the RfP page? Leo68 (talk) 02:20, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Oracle

Thanks for that Sean. Apologies if it appeared to be vandalism. SJWalker (talk) 08:20, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Vehicles Table

My table is vehicles.meta related - the important info like what handling, game name, manufacturer, etc. a vehicle model uses. I might do handling some other time but I honestly am too lazy to add about 100 sections for 300 handling lines into a table. The spreadsheet seems to be unavailable for public access, by the way. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:00, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Protect wiki

Hi again...

Can you protect my user page so it only can be contributed by me and adminstrators? Snabbhandlarn (talk) 23:01, March 23, 2015 (UTC)Snabbhandlarn 

Administrator Election

Please vote on the Community Noticeboard. SJWalker and 558050 are applying for my former position. Leo68 (talk) 02:20, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Vehicle Categories/Classes

Hi Smurfy, just wanted to inform you on a large project.

Remember when there was a large discussion/argument on the Voodoo page about it being a Lowrider, but being categorized as a Muscle Car in GTA V? You said in the comments that we can add the category of Lowrider, but we MUST add the category of Muscle, as is classed as that in-game. 

I took a look at the vehicle categories, and, to be honest, they are a mess. We have some unused categories, and several duplicate categories. I decided on this:

We should have categories named after what they are in GTA V Vehicle classes, eg: Sports Cars, Muscle, Commercial, Military, Helicopter, etc. We put all vehicles that are classed as Sports Cars in this category. Only GTA V Sport Cars should appear in this category.

We can make a category that isn't named after a GTA V Vehicle Class, eg: 2 - Door Coupes and Sedans, 2 - Door Sports Cars. Vehicles that are described as these appear in here, both GTA V and all other GTA games. 

We delete nonsense categories, such as "Small Cars" "Big Cars" "Long Cars", etc. And we delete duplicated pages. 

I'm currently using some pre-made categories and using them as GTA V Vehicle Class Categories, and then making other similar categories for the rest of the sports cars that aren't in a vehicle class.

This all seems a little complicated, but if you read carefully, you should understand what i mean :) MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:06, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I'm glad you came up to that decision, as that would mean i have to transfer tonnes of vehicles to different categories. I will get started on deleting and making new categories tomorrow if you give me the go-ahead.

So, overview, we delete observant or obvious categories, like 2 - Door Sports Cars, Classic Cars and Lowriders, etc, and just make GTA V Categories to define vehicles? Surely, that is contradicting what you said about the GTA V Wiki :p. MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:25, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Or, i could keep all current categories, delete GTA V Focused ones, and name them clearer, like your suggestive names. MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:30, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Ahh, well, that's what i am doing basically, I'm just calling them after their GTA V class names, simply like Muscle Cars, Sedans, Commercial,etc. I could just finish my transferal and then make them as you said, calling them Muscle Vehicle Class, Sedan Vehicle Class, etc. Then delete the old ones (above mentioned). Do you think that is alright? MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:50, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

I'll continue tomorrow, in the mean time, please could you prevent/revert any category edits to vehicles if you spot any? Thanks :) MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:51, March 24, 2015 (UTC)


My bad I only glanced at it I didn't vote in it I just noticed it was a few days old and needed to be closed. Leo68 (talk) 01:35, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

May I ask why you decided to revert my edit? The Picador holds no similarities to the Holden Kingswood Utility, and the rear fascia is incredibly similar to the 1972 El Camino. It is also entirely irrelevant to mention the history of Holden, alongside some off topic mention of how it looks like some other car from the GTA universe.

Sig (Talk) 01:47, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


Do you know how to change signature colors? SJWalker is now admin and it is usually something Tom does. Leo68 (talk) 02:02, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

I was wondering if there should be a dispatcher page on this wiki. You know that person who reports what the person is wanted for like in GTA V with "we have reports of of 996". It's just an idea I have can you let me know if it can be added thanks. Aminsino (talk) 03:42, March 25, 2015 (UTC)aminsino 

I am a total idiot, just blocked him because it looked like he voted on his own request but it was Camilo's. I need to focus more. Leo68 (talk) 03:59, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Note to self before ZZZZs:

Create new "Gear" infobox template tomorrow. Parachute, rebreather, gas mask etc shouldn't have to use a "weapon" template. smurfy (coms) 11:44, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Flare Gun

Hey Sean, since I can't download the heists update nor play GTA Online on the PS4, could you take some FPS pictures of the Flare Gun? (i.e. holding, aiming, down the sights and reloading) Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 16:02, March 25, 2015 (UTC)

Heist Vehicle Infobox Images

Hey Smurfynz. I noticed over the past two weeks the Heists Update has been out, lots of users have been fighting over images in the infobox. I understand you also would like the enhanced version images in the infobox, but I think those should be the in the gallery at least. WildBrick added very good images for the vehicles' infoboxes and to me there is no need to rush and change them. I think we should come to an agreement on the images of those vehicles. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 16:38, March 25, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


Hey I found another page about the same Retro City page you deleted. It should also be deleted. Link-> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Myth hunter (talkcontribs) 20:33, 25 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Category progress

Just to keep you informed, i have removed useless categories (such as 2-Door Coupes, 2-Door Sedans and Coupes, 4-Door Sedans and Coupes, etc), and replaced them with simple categories (such as Sedans, Sports Cars, Muscle Cars), keeping it simple is the best option. I have made only one GTA V Vehicle Class-based category so far, that is Category:Sedans Vehicle Class, as it is a long progress of moving vehicles from Category:4-Door Sedans to Category:Sedans. 

Note that Category:Sedans is for all games, whereas Category:Sedans Vehicle Class is for GTA V Specifically. 

Hooefully it shouldn't take that long to convert vehicles to new categories now, as the major ones where Category:4-Door Sedans and Category:2-Door Sedans causing the problem. Besides, tonnes of vehicles in the Category:2-Door Coupes and Sedans where wrong, so it was sorth the check. MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 21:04, March 25, 2015 (UTC)


Got it! Thanks for the tip. - DLVIIIL Talk 01:21, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Pretty neat. I'm glad that you choose to show me how to do it myself instead of just doing it yourself. Guess I learned something new today because of this. - DLVIIIL Talk 06:46, March 26, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Warts and All

Hi, Smurfynz

Thanks for getting in touch. The YouTube channel used to publish the documented video was previously flagged for multiple violations for leaked content relating to one of our titles. As the article contained links to this channel, it was removed for inappropriate content.

Whilst we do not discourage healthy factual documentation of these harmless glitches, sometimes we may remove it depending on the external source provided. The glitch stated was indeed fixed in the 1.16 patch. 

If the external source is legitimate and does not have past records of infringement, we will not remove it from the article. 

Best Wishes,

Mark Anderson

(TIER 1 Press Management) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockstarPressUK (talkcontribs) 09:29, 26 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Contributions question

Thanks smurfynz Aminsino (talk) 00:20, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

How is the contributions page scored? Aminsino (talk) 00:46, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

The +'s amd -'s looked like it was scoring it. srry for the misunderstanding. Aminsino (talk) 02:42, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

Yeah that's what I meant thanks for clearing that up :) . Aminsino (talk) 02:50, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

How long does it take to be deemed inactive? Srry for asking a lot of questions i'm justa  very curious individual. Aminsino (talk) 02:52, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

So if a staff member is inactive for 3 months they get demoted? --Aminsino (talk) 03:29, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

Thanks for explaining that to me :) --Aminsino (talk) 03:59, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino


Proof for the move? Please leave your reply on the Talk:Karen page. Leo68 (talk) 22:49, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

You can go ahead and rename it. I'd do it but I have staff page changes to make. Leo68 (talk) 22:58, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Nice work, I'll stick that on there. Leo68 (talk) 23:06, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

I only left the first three because votes will be on the community noticeboard, and they will have their named removed from the table after the outcome. Leo68 (talk) 23:11, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Karen Daniels rename

Why put the move template in the Karen page? You can change the name yourself. Or are you waiting for the opinion of the others? - DLVIIIL Talk 22:51, March 27, 2015 (UTC)

Can you tell me how many patrollers, admins, and beaurucrats there can be at one time? I just want to know so in the future if I apply for a promotion I can tell how much staff is needed. Thank you in advance :D Aminsino (talk) 23:09, March 27, 2015 (UTC)aminsino

GTA IV mission-path

Hey Smur. Looking back at some of the old staff conversations, I remembered this little gen right here! Pretty cool uh? Its an complete mission patch of all GTA IV missions, complete with hyperlinks for each mission. I always liked this, but Tom did not let the creator of the patch use it because it "doesn't fit the style of the Wiki".

Now that we got a hole bunch of new people in the staff, do you think that we could find a way of using the patch? Its such a great work, and its a shame that its just there in the talk page. What do you think? - DLVIIIL Talk 00:30, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

I guess you have a point. Its just so sad to see how that user put so much effort into creating that, only for it to ended up in the talk page. Thanks for the attention anyway. - DLVIIIL Talk 03:37, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

Pages "Under Construction"

Hi there. I had recently dicovered that this page, which is "Under Construction", has missing imformation. Can I edit this page? What is a page "under construction"?   Is one of the staff in this wiki already working on this page? Please reply me as soon as possible. Thank you. MarcusCheeKJ (talk) 10:58, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

Do I need to remove the "Under Construction" template after editing the page? Is it automatically removed? MarcusCheeKJ (talk) 11:31, March 28, 2015 (UTC)


Hi there.

I had noticed that transcript had been added by WildBrick142 and LS11sVaultBoy in some mission pages. The transcript looks okay. Is transcript important in showing imformation? Must the transcript be shown in another page (Mission name/Transcript) or shown in the mission page itself? Can I help them?

Please reply to me as soon as possible. Thamk you. MarcusCheeKJ (talk) 02:19, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Shooting Ranges

I'm making the Ammu-Nation ranges one page, and making a disambig for shooting ranges that will list the Ammu-Nation pages and Phil's one. Leo68 (talk) 04:54, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

I just made a disambiglink as opposed to making a disambiguation for just two pages. You can edit on there without conflicts because I've finished editing (just adding categories first). Leo68 (talk) 05:05, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Song release date

Hi Sean. With regards to the year a song was released, I always thought that an album-song was listed by the year of the album, whilst a single was listed by the year of the single release. On Radio Mirror Park for example, Dan Croll's "From Nowhere" was released in 2012 yet the album it was on wasn't released until 2014. SJWalker (talk) 10:39, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Stevie Nicks' website lists it as 1985, so that's good enough for me. Thanks for the clarification. On that note, and apologies if it appears pedantic, but which territory do we go by when it comes to the song years? For example, America's "A Horse with No Name" was released in the UK in 1971 and the US in 1972. The K-DST pages lists it as 1972 but I don't want to make a change-for-change's-sake edit if either one is acceptable. SJWalker (talk) 11:01, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

I do a weekly music quiz too, and we have a book that we go by for song years, but the years the books lists only covers the week the song first entered the chart, not when it was released. So for example, if one song was released late in one year but didn't chart until the following year, which one would you go by? SJWalker (talk) 11:04, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

I think in future, whenever anyone lists a year beside a song, the territory should be checked first (either on the artist's site or Personally, I think first of the UK and US releases should be used, as they are the two countries where the games are developed and set. SJWalker (talk) 11:17, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

What our quizzers do is play X number of songs and ask for the year the song was first released as a single, so for example if a song was released as a single in 1982 but didn't chart and was re-released and charted in 1985 then 1982 would be accepted, as 1982 was the year of its original release. Likewise with number 1s, as Steve Miller Band's "The Joker" was released in 1973 but didn't reach number 1 in the UK until 1990, so it would be classed as a 1973 song.

PS: My mum was rooting for you in the cricket as she used to work in New Zealand during the 1980s. SJWalker (talk) 11:32, March 29, 2015 (UTC)


Can you delete these pages for me?: They're all category pages. 

MONKEYPOLICE188 (talk) | (stalk) 20:35, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Image renames

Thanks! V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 20:38, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

On some people's profiles it shows pins that say for example: this user is a proud owner of ps3., Is that a reward or can they create them themselves. If they can create those pins themselves can you tell me how to do it if you know how to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminsino (talkcontribs) 00:51, 30 March 2015 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.


I closed it as a 'bureaucratic' decision. I know it seems like an unfair protection but I've locked it until the next staff opening is available. It has been done in the past according to the protection log. Leo68 (talk) 03:31, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

Order of Missions

Hi Smurfy.

I was wondering if I can change the order of missions listed in a more logical way, as sometimes the order missions listed is not so logical.

MarcusCheeKJ (talk) 10:12, March 30, 2015 (UTC)

What about these four missions in this page? The four missions are listed in the 'Algonquin-Alderney Missions' catagory, but in fact they are located in Broker. It is a better way to list the missions down by characters, not the location of the mission, like in this page. What do you think? Please reply me as soon as possible. Thank you.

MarcusCheeKJ (talk) 08:12, March 31, 2015 (UTC)


Cc ShotzZ cC keeps adding unofficial content to San Andreas (HD Universe), look at that picture on your left and delete it too, then block him. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 20:22, March 30, 2015 (UTC) Deleted it

Nevermind, Smashbro blocked him. Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 20:26, March 30, 2015 (UTC)


Calm down man. I did not write my opinion directed towards you. There's several other contributors who've uploaded poor enhanced version images. I personally think your photos are good. I never complained about any of your photos. The Savage infobox one could be better but it was good as I didn't like WildBrick's one either (it was too close up). My apologies if you felt it was to insult you. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 00:18, March 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

I also had liked your Guardian image and I think it should at least be a gallery image. Smashbro8-Sig-pt1 (Smashbro8-Sig-pt2) 00:21, March 31, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

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