I'll see what I'll do about the games. So, you're joining the army next year?Dodo8 Talk

That's horrible!Dodo8 Talk
Could you unlock Grand Theft Auto V page? I'll modify some images and clear it a little bit.Dodo8 Talk
You can lock it up back. I've removed the videos and added trailers, added new photos, and fixed galleries.Dodo8 Talk
BTW, could you add some content to the Grand Theft Auto V/Editions? I'm not good at overviews...Dodo8 Talk

Mori'sBuffaloIsNotUnique.jpg file

Hey Ilan.

Sorry to hear you'll join the army. I don't think it is something you like, either...hopefully after the next two years, you'll still be an active admin here

Well, I also wanted to talk to you about that file you deleted. I uploaded it, if it's because of the name, I didn't name it correctly because I didn't feel at home with the Image Policy back then, when I added it.

It was not modded or anything, I captured it while playing TBOGT.

I just wanted to ask you if you're OK with me re-adding it.


אומץ, חבר שלי. אתה עושה את זה דרך הצבא. :)

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 22:45, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Well, too bad I don't have a better pic of it, then...

And, Ilan, remember to say "See you later!" when the day comes.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 09:45, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I meant the day when you leave your house, but that's alright hahahaha.

Do you have the image or do you need me to upload it again, image admin?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 09:55, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

A'ight. I've added the Trivia point to the Buffalo page, besides changing some things in the Trivia section; I put the Trivia points by order of the game like this:

  • GTA SA
  • GTA IV
  • GTA V

I didn't add any sub-sections, but I separed by order of the game. Before, they a bit confuse:

  • GTA SA
  • GTA IV
  • GTA SA
  • GTA SA
  • GTA V

I think we could add this layout to the rest of the Trivia sections, as part of the Trivia revamp.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:09, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there's much of a difference between that and the other pic...

But as we need something to back it up, I think it'd be good if you could post it either on Mori's page or alongside the other Buffalo's.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:29, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


Template:Infobox Mobile is giving me headaches. Everytime I try to add a picture, it is too big and I need to use Photoshop to resize it. Please unlock it for me.Dodo8 Talk

BTW, could you add the Badger Crappy to the Template:PhoneNav?Dodo8 Talk


Could you replace the code of the Template:Vehicles HD with the one on my Sandbox? Thanks.Dodo8 Talk

Could you do that please?Dodo8 Talk
Also, I fixed the Template:Infobox Mobile. You can lock it up.Dodo8 Talk

About the Agent wiki

Hey man, I was thinking you and me should have a talk about the Agent Wiki, as I have some good ideas to re-start the wiki. Ciao Instulent (talk) 13:28, June 4, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, could you check out my suggestion on the community noticeboardBoomer8 (talk) 05:08, June 9, 2013 (UTC)


Check out the GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard. Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:07, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hello Ilan. I would like to know how to put an image in a complexe showen article, suck as this:

TheLuca2001 (talk) 17:16, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Community Noticeboard

Check out the GTA Wiki:Community NoticeboardBoomer8 (talk) 03:58, June 17, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, Ilan. Dwayne gta killa is adding fake birth dates for GTA: SA characters. You should check it out.Dodo8 Talk


Hey Ilan. I just wanted to ask you something real quick. Is it okay for me to do dialogue scripts for radio stations and other things or not? The first time i tried it, a year in a half ago, Russelnorthrop told me that nobody can do those types of edits because of the copyright issues. Later! --Painkill (talk) 08:39, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

My profile

Hi Ilan. I don't know if you can see this, but on my profile, instead of it saying that I am an Admin, it says I'm an Admin and a Patroller. I don't know what's going on. Let me know if you can see it too. VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 11:42, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 11:59, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

Fruit Computers in HD Universe

Can you check the page for grammar errors? I just finished editing it.Dodo8 Talk


Ilan, Ultimateviper3 keeps removing the message from his talkpage, so I left him a last warning if he does that again, I'll get the admins to block him for that, just letting you know what Ultimateviper3 is doing. Cloudkit01 (talk) 14:31, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan. You should delete Mr .E. Mann, it is misspelled, so I created Mr. E. Mann. So I added E. Mann (Chairman) and Doug Hatchet (CEO) to the Fruit Computers in HD Universe page, but I'm not sure about it.Dodo8 Talk

Double category page

Hi Ilan, I found these two categories : one is named Russian Mafia and the other is named Russian mafia. I don't know if it is possible to redirect category pages and that's why I'm asking you. Thanks --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:04, June 24, 2013 (UTC)


No I can't, I think it's better to remove all the content from Russian mafia and put everything of Russian Mafia Content (characters, bratvas, fronts) in the Russian Mafia category. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 19:06, June 24, 2013 (UTC)

Aleks Thornton

Could you create him a small overview, please? Thanks.Dodo8 Talk

About Slipknot15

Salve, Ilan!

He is supposedly adding a "Track List" on the Los Santos Rock Radio page. Keep a sharp eye on his actions. I suggest we levy a block on him, but that's up to you.


Mr. T., That's Me! (talk) 23:40, June 25, 2013 (UTC)

I Want You to Delete My Old Accounts

I really realized that I did very dumb thing, but since now I won't do it anymore. Anyway, can you delete my 1st account?

povke (talk) 01:13, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Creating category page

Hi Ilan, I have a small question, how to create a category page? It's the same method to create a normal page? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 11:45, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but what I have to do when I click on create?

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 11:53, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

I got it, but when I click on create it appears nothing, maybe you can try. You can find the category called gang areas in the page Hepburn Heights for example, I'll be working on it.

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 12:08, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Ilan. :)

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 12:16, June 30, 2013 (UTC)



Sorry about that. I'll get to it right away! 

Also, how is Ilan today? :D 

Instulent (talk) 09:11, July 3, 2013 (UTC)

I'm good :D

Having a few problems with my wiki tho.. :( Instulent (talk) 09:15, July 3, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan. Long time no talk, eh? My situation is horrible. Dad said that (after I waited almost a half of year to fix it) he's going to sell the Xbox, because I don't spend enough time playing on it (what could I do if only have FIFA and 5 years old games from the previous owner?) Maybe he's not selling it, maybe he lies to me. He said he's going to change our internet speed to a worser one, while he actually bought  a better one! But I don't feel like buying the special edition right now, since dad isn't really agreed and school will also start. Maybe  I should get the normal edition and then put money in my pink pig, and when the school ends, I'll buy the collector's edition for PC (if it will appear)! What do you think?Dodo8 Talk

It's pretty unlikely that he will sell it, I actually suggested that to him sometime, so we could get a PS3 instead. But he said that since is ain't our console (it's our friend's who now got a PS3) it wouldn't be nice to sell it. I actually have 200 RON and until September I'll earn 300 RON which is enough for the standard edition. In the same time, I wanted to buy these soccer boots which are 189 RON. Hmmmm... Also, I can't find any entertaining game lately. I waited like 3 months for SimCity (2013), and is a piece of !@#$. I'm really gettttinnnggg borrrreeeeedddd.... What about you? How are you doin'?Dodo8 Talk


Could you go on and rename the screenshots on the Dropping In... page please? I uploaded them fast and it didn't asked me about the license and the name.Dodo8 Talk


Hey can you vote on the Community Noticeboard. Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:02, July 6, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan! I managed to install 2 Audis and a Ferrari Italia into GTA EFLC. All fine. Then I installed an "enhancer". The game stops working after the loading screen. I didn't even managed to see the Ferrari and one of the Audis (I only saw one of the Audis, since I installed the other cars later)! Why the f!@# I installed that enhancer? Anyways, I have to reinstall my computer soon. So isn't such a big deal.Dodo8 Talk


Hey, could you unlock the Vehicles template please and about 5mins later re-lock it? Cheers :) Instulent (talk) 15:24, July 9, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Images

Ya, I can try.. but can you guys sort the Image Policy page out.. I'm confused as hell with different icons and where they go.. _ or -  :/ Instulent (talk) 15:40, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

I did ask him in the past.. but no.. Instulent (talk) 15:57, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

I understand all, apart from the last bit.. Ugh, why are things so difficult.. :( Instulent (talk) 16:13, July 10, 2013 (UTC) 

Yeah, I suppose... ;( Instulent (talk) 16:18, July 10, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, I took the pic of Vic Vance standing behind private jet from the mission Snitch Hitch, I want to upload it to my userpage, but I got two problems. One is that the pic that I took is not very good and two is that I have a problem to come up with a good file name for it the image that I took, if you have a ideas, let me know okay, so thanks man. Cloudkit01 (talk) 14:26, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

I like that one, thanks Ilan, I'm gonna upload that image right now. :) But when you see the image that I uploaded, I know it's has bad quailty, but that's the only camera that I got. Cloudkit01 (talk) 16:25, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, I did put a underscore but lately it doesn't register it on the image name :/ Also, is the chat down for you?? Instulent (talk) 18:01, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Hmm.. I wonder what the problem is for me then? Instulent (talk) 18:04, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Didn't work.. but I can live without it.. ;) Instulent (talk) 18:18, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan , this user Wiktor doesn't even follow the image policy and keep uploading images and ignoring the image policy. Kingrhem Talk 19:01, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

Idea thingy

Hey Ilan, I'm going to publish my table idea on the Businesses in GTA V page. Let me know quickly before someone undo's the edit! :D Instulent (talk) 17:32, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

No way. Too complicated, and the coding is bad.Dodo8 Talk
@Dodo I don't see anything wrong with it.. the page needs modernizing..
@Ilan Knowing me, I don't understand that either D:
Instulent (talk) 17:40, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
User:Instulent/Sandbox for example. I'm not very good with coding. Dodo, can you help him with this one, changing the coding to something more... "smoothly"? -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 17:44, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
A table on that page is useless, it will be full of too much content. He should use a normal tabber like on this page if he wants to try.Dodo8 Talk
Hmm. The normal tabber looks pretty good. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 17:51, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Protagonists' Houses

I was about to add Trevor's and Franklin's houses, but there aren't many available images. Most of Trevor's are from inside, and we have only one artwork for Franklin's.Dodo8 Talk

No problem, you can create these pages without images - we'll post them later. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 17:45, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
I will do it tomorrow, I have to go now. Keep an eye on Instu's sandbox. Bye! :) Dodo8 Talk

Los Santos

The Los Santos in HD Universe page/article is need to updated. So you must edit, because we see that page, for editing, only admin is can edit. That page is has been never edited/updated again, since a few 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 months ago. Sorry if my English is bad, because we is Indonesian descent, move to America. Nicole456 (talk) 22:51, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

New GTA V screenshot from Japanese magazine?

Hey Ilan!

I found this:

It looks like Franklin riding a PCJ-600, at night. From what I've heard, it's from a Japanese games magazine.

I wanted you to tell me what you think: is it legit or not?

PS: Could you check my new blog post? You'll laugh a lot, I guarantee.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 13:47, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

I know, but that's exactly the way it was (I found it on Facebook)...I'm thinking that the resolution's might be this bad because of the realistic lighting effect, and it was a shot taken at night (in-game), though. Also because every image depicting this screenshot has the same res.
Don't you think it's possible?
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:48, July 14, 2013 (UTC)
I say it's genuine.Dodo8 Talk
  I'd say it's real, however that bike is the Vader as you can tell from the headlight :) Instulent (talk) 09:32, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
@Ilan, OK. Do you want me to post it, or do you want to do it yourself? No prob, I can post it on the Screens', Franklin's and Vader pages.
@Dodo Yeah, me too, which is why I brought it up.
@Instu Well, vehicles ain't really my "forte", y'know?
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:24, July 15, 2013 (UTC)


Well. What about the relation between Luis and Gay Tony. Altough Luis is straight, he never said bad things about Tony. Remember the last mission, Departure Time, "I love you bro!" :D Dodo8 Talk

Hey Ilan, I joined in and now it's me and Dodo choosing the top 25 moments.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:36, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Oh, didn't see your message, Ilan. Anyway, I'mma help. Thanks for the proposition! :D
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:37, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Some of my favourite moments are Old Johnny K. dealing with Jim's death ("Get the fuck out of here" to Ashley"), and Roman's death ("I'm so sorry, cousin...").
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:40, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Dat a good one, Yeah. Plus I want to ask other members of the wiki what are their fav moments and put all together (25-30 moments). And we'll post it before GTA V's release. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 10:42, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
Ilan, I'm not sure if you had the same idea, but go to FB to check out what I think should be the best moment in GTA.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:48, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Image violator 

Hey Ilan, User:Kasparlaks is adding copyrighted images to pages. Could you sort him out please. Ciao Instulent (talk) 14:27, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Hi bro

I didn't know that you didn't intend for users to edit it. I just saw that other users were writing about you there and I just thought I'd write something nice. As for my favorite moments, it's hard to choose because there were so many good ones. But one of my favorites is when you (CJ) have to burn all of The Truth's weed. That was just so funny to me.

Just to make sure you know, I'm not coming back here. I just saw that and thought I'd write something quick. But I hope some good things happen to you here. Maybe you'll become a Bureaucrat? I hope so. Well, I'll catch you later on another wiki. Bunny J. [Bunnyjoke] 14:43 7/15/2013

Quick fix pretty please...

Hi Ilan, sorry to be a hassle but I made a mistake when creating one of my fan-fiction pages. Using the prefix User:Enigma24 as I do when making my fan-fiction pages I misspelled it as User:Engima24 so now it doesn't link properly. Could you please fix it for me if you have the time? I'd hate to cause confusion over exactly who its author is. I'd fix it myself but I am just a humble member. Enigma24 (talk) 05:35, July 16, 2013 (UTC)


Thanks, it did need doing. Instulent (talk) 13:14, July 16, 2013 (UTC)

Rename Image

Hi Ilan can you rename this image to Tec-9-GTAVC-icon.png Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 14:59, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


The template is going to look like this:


I think we should place on the community messages. What do you think?Dodo8 Talk

I have to go now, but I have to ask you something. Do you support any Football Team from Israel? Steaua Bucharest, my favorite team, might play against Maccabi Tel Aviv in the next play-off round. It would be interesting. :) Dodo8 Talk


היי אילן, האם אתה במצב הרוח לצ'אט? Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 11:56, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

New screenshot?


Hey Ilan.

Don't ask me who takes these pics with such a bad quality, but here you go. I found this:

Wha'ddaya think?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 15:20, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Yes' it's real. No, we won't use it. We have enough images in Franklin's gallery. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 15:44, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
What about here?
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 17:28, July 18, 2013 (UTC)


Ilan, don't worry, I got the MoS under control. I'm at my town's public library right now editing for an hour and the MoS is my top priority.

Mr. T., That's Me! (talk) 21:08, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Damn, you know what I noticed: each GTA subject (i.e. Characters, Weapons etc.) have their own MoS bulid. I think we need to create multiple MoS/--- articles because having a standalone MoS at its basis will confuse other contributors. In the meantime, I'm working on the GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weaponry.
Mr. T., That's Me! (talk) 21:46, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
  • I was too thinking about to make a MoS for neighborhoods, but if one condition. All the neighborhoods in all the GTA cities yet, have no MoS, compare East Los Santos to South Slopes for example. All the neighborhoods got no order of sections. And maybe it will take a lot of work to organize them. So we will start this MoS for neighborhoods when GTA V is released. 1. A short description, 2. Character, 3. Events of GTA V, 4.Influence, 5. Gang Control (if they have), 6. Notable Residents (if there are), 7. Attractions and stores (if there are), 8. Trivia (if something is important), 8. Gallery. Warn me if I forgot something!!! I will wait your guys opinion before starting it. Protecting the pages or code for templates and that stuff I'll let with Dodo, T, or the admins. I hope that's good.

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 23:31, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

@Tony leave the gangs' MoS for me and Mikey. The gang pages are really messed up and we want to do check them personally. I still need some help with the businesses MoS, though. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 12:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC) @Thomas well, I guess we found who'll be in charge of this MoS :) -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 12:57, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Well the gangs prior to GTA V is too the same confusion, like the neighborhoods. Mostly of the gang articles are poorly ordered. I'll edit and put in order few of them. I'll create the neighborhood MoS when everything is OK by the gangs. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 21:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

  • I took a look and the situation by the sections order in the all the gangs prior GTA V, it would take a year to organize then, simply separating the description from the events in the games will be not so tough, as it is something common. The section orders will start count as from the releasement from GTA V and all the orders should be respected and followed. Well we should let the page with Ilan and Mikey, of course any staff member could help if a minor error is founded. Meanwhile this all I'll be checking/organizing the gangs pages. Let's put work on it! :) --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 21:34, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I created this manual of style, it's called GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Missions. Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 23:42, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, User:Dragoscorca is very abusive and keeps adding a image hundreds of times which violates the GTA Wiki:Image Policy. Ciao Instulent (talk) 12:42, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

He's Romanian, I even spoke to him in Romanian, but he just won't listed.Dodo8 Talk
Don't hesitate to block him, he sweared on Instulent's page. I feel so unproud for being Romanian right now.Dodo8 Talk
No shit. He's out for a week. Longer if he'll date to repeat himself. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 12:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I did throw a bit of humor into my Karin Sedan talk page response earlier, which probably didn't help much. However the use of the coarse language is beyond me. I did respond to his angry comment, but only to justify why I had made the decisions that I had, as you can read. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 13:16, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

I've read it and I agree with your choice of words. You made a good decision. If there's someone to blame, it's Dragoscorsa. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 13:24, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Possible Absence Notice :(

Hi there, in about twenty-four hours time I'll be leaving on a five week holiday. I'll not have Wi-Fi access because I would like to save some cash for GTA and a new HDTV. I may still be able to use the internet via mobile, but my access to editing could drop to minimal at best. I'll try do my best while away and then return to business as usual when I return to the UK on 1st September. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 10:34, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

That's okay, bro. You earned yourself a holiday after all the hard work :) -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 10:42, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks man, that means a lot. Skipping out on the internet will leave me with enough money to get a good GTA V setup at university, so that my editing won't be compromised too heavily after moving from home. I hope you enjoy the period from now till September :) JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 10:50, July 20, 2013 (UTC)


Could you rename Easter Eggs in GTA V to "Secrets and Easter Eggs in GTA V", please? Thanks.Dodo8 Talk

Something new

Hi Ilan, I was thinking, of creating a new category named : Optional Deceased Characters. It contains characters (mostly in the HD Era) that can be spared during missions or killed (characters that are spared in missions and later killed in random encounters doesn't count). I appreciate the support. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:49, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

After thinking on that for a few minutes. No. No need for a category like. Maybe one with a less 'simple' name would be good, but as for now. No -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 15:13, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
Ok, alright. BTW I would ask you too if more one MoS should be created or if all types have been created yet. And too, don't thinking I'm inviting myself for something but, could I get a reception in your profile too? Thanks --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 16:00, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
There is still the MoS for neighborhoods - we don't have one so you can't create it. And yeah, sure, you can add your reception to my profile. Just put it aboe the "he's shit" quote. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 16:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
It's finished! \O/ Check out : GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Neighborhoods

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:44, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

Unlock Templates

Hi Ilan, can you unlock staff templates,plz. I've got new idea

-Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 23:43, July 21, 2013 (UTC)


Ueha, iy hapend tp mw tii! Translation: Yeah, it happens to me too! :D Dodo8 Talk

Replace the Patroller code on the GTA Wiki:Staff with the one on my Sandbox. I asked King what artwork he wants, I'll add it for him when he responds.Dodo8 Talk
We'll see who gets there first... :D Dodo8 Talk
BTW, do you know where Winter Moon is from? I added him a black flag with a question mark...Dodo8 Talk
We should ask him, but I won't do it, I can't talk to him like nothing happened after I voted "Yes" for his demotion. Talking about that, he didn't edited since he responded to Dan's message, right? He said he will become active when GTA V will appear on PC, so expect to see him next year (PC version is not even announced...). Someone should tell him to edit about other things, he will become too inactive (not even 10 edits per month like he used to do).Dodo8 Talk

Staff Image

Hey Ilan can you change my staff image to file:kingrhem-StaffAvatar .png, also can you rename it and delete the space at the end of the name. Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 15:13, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

I added another one, King's was too big.
Flag of Iraq Kingrhem

Dodo8 Talk

I archived it. BTW, Kingrhem's avatar looks good, right? I'm happy to see that we have staff from different parts of the world. :D Dodo8 Talk
Ilan there is a mistake in the staff page, istalo's link is not right. Try to write the word "link" in small letters. Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:52, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
You fixed it. Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:58, July 22, 2013 (UTC)


What about adding "Leaders" positions to the Patroller and Admin groups? They would be the head people of the group and things... Admins will choose the Patroller leader and the Bureaucrats will choose the Admin leader. What do you think? :) Dodo8 Talk

I'm getting bored... But not for long, I have to write my homework at maths. And this evening the Champions League play-off second leg between Steaua Bucharest and Vardar Skopje (Steaua won the first leg with 3-0). Also, if Pandurii Tg. Jiu win with Levadia Talin in Europa League, they will play against Hapoel Tel Aviv.Dodo8 Talk
Fuck Hapoel. They'll lose, obviously... again. >.< -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 09:57, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
What do you think about Maccabi? :P Dodo8 Talk
Well fuck it too. -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 11:34, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Lolz :D Dodo8 Talk

Gangsters category page

Ilan, what's up, how are you?

I have something for you. What's wrong with this category page?

I'll help you out: read the first paragraph and then look at the first line of "Gangsters". The first, the second, the third, the fourth...

Got it?

If you did, can you help me out, correcting what's wrong?

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 11:24, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm... shouldn't it be only for people in gangs. Wht can Isee Trevor and Claude in there? o.o -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 11:34, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly, you guessed it. "(...)not for protagonists(...)", yet all of the protags are there...
Also, take a look at this Japanese GTA V artwork:
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 11:53, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
The only protagonists I think we should keep on this category are those belong (or used to be in) to a gang, such as CJ (GSF), Tommy (Vercetti Gang), Toni (Leones), Vic (Vance family), Johnny (TLMC) and Luis (The Dominican drug crew). -- ILan (XDEditsHome ) 11:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
I cleaned it all. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 13:17, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I think those should still be there, but per example Claude and Niko ARE NOT gangsters.
Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:33, July 23, 2013 (UTC)


I'll only add to the gangs that are not set to appear in GTA V, no problem. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 13:32, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

  • When a gang in GTA SA appears again in GTA V, I'll rename the page to Varrios los aztecas in hd universe for example. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 13:34, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • Well there's nothing too big, this happened one time when I had the problem with two categories with same name, Russian Mafia and Russian mafia, I just erased the all content from one page and I pasted it into another. But now there's nothing confirmed, the only gangs that are set to appear in V are the GSF and the Ballas. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 13:40, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • Not really Ilan, The Vagos and Ballas are not allies, they are pure enemies and they are only allied for narcotics and protection. At the another side, the GSF and the Varrios are too enemies, only the standard members of the both gangs (Cesar, CJ, Sweet) are friends, they were friends only for one mission, CJ, Cesar and Sweet are friends, but the members of the gangs still not understand each other and will atack each other. About the new gangs, I completely agree with you. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 13:48, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oh ma bad Mr. Goldcart! Hahahaha, but this happened to each game in 3DUniverse, allied gangs attack each other. That was a little bad from Rockstar Games to do it. If it's said that two gangs are allied, it doesn't means that they need to kill each other when meeting in the territories borders. And if you pay attention in the dialogues from the Los Santos gangs they will often insult or verbally attack allied gangs. So we could say that the Vagos-Ballas and GSF-Varrios are only allied during the storyline. But the fuck I know, eh? ;) --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:01, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes you're right, but in TLAD the Lost MC will not attack the Uptown Riders if seen in front, but will attack if Jonny hurted one Uptown gangster. In GTA SA is a completely different thing; one gang will attack each other, don't matter what for a gang. You can see it in the cheat : bifbuzz. Well I need to admit that in 2004 the things were not so realistic. I'm sure GTA V will make it better. But a nice fact is that in TBOGT, the North Holland Hustlers or the African American members will not attack Luis ( a Northwood Dominican drug dealer member ), and that's realistic, because there's no proof that Luis is a gangster. In GTA SA, VC or III, if you run fast with a car into a hostile-gang territory, they will mysteriously recognize you and shoot at you. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:15, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • That's right, we could apologize it. But I think they made it a little bit exaggerated and had pissed all the players off in the example of GTA III, there are 7 gangs in the game and through the end of the storyline 5 will become hostile to you, most of them will only attack you with fake-assed pistols and baseball bats so no problem, but the Colombian Cartel attack with Ak-47 and the Leones with Shotguns. This was reduced in Vice City, now only with the Haitians. And a question, which gang attack you in Max Payne 3? And BTW it's ok to make a category page for the Leone Family? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:28, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm also not a huge fan of Max Payne but I watched a gameplay and it looks very interesting. Principally that is set in Sao Paulo, where I'm born. From the gameplay I still can remember from the Commando Sobra which is an an amalgam from a gang in Sao Paulo called PCC, I grew up watching bad things about them in television. And about the Leones, it's OK to add the characters? And the messy pages I'll let aside. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:42, July 23, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, you wanna chat ? Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 14:20, July 23, 2013 (UTC)


I added all the LCPD Database about Commission members in the years. Do you know if there will be a LSPD Database in GTA V? Or it is nothing confirmed? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:31, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

  • Well about GTA V I'm very afraid, do you have a meaning how much work we will need to put in? It gives me nightmares. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:46, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, m' bad. And does the Wikia have actually a 10000 page limit? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:53, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

I know it's small but it is better than Saints Row or Driver anyway. :P --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:57, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

I gave a look in the Max Payne Wiki and it's too very good. Do you think we should make an ally with the Max Payne Wiki? It would be a good idea. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:02, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I'll give this idea in the Community Noticeboard and see if the guys agree with it. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:06, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

No, I thinked about it I will give a better idea, it's a surprise, I'll be finish in a hour I guess. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:33, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

A small question

At this very moment, are you feeling happy or sad? :D Instulent (talk) 18:04, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

I never said whether your happy, neutral or sad tho.. Instulent (talk) 18:08, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

So, do you want to hear some news that would most likely make you angry and angry or not?? Instulent (talk) 18:12, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Owen has been at it again >:o Instulent (talk) 18:16, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

What about the images? Instulent (talk) 18:23, July 23, 2013 (UTC)


Czesc Ilan, User:Elias2070 has been vandalizing the Antagonist page and also has been violating the Image policy with this . Do zobaczenia :D Instulent (talk) 10:19, July 24, 2013 (UTC) 


Hey Ilan, one question. Shouldn't the Faustin Bratva members appear in the profile photo instead of Mikhail? And second, like the gang will not appear in more games anymore, can I create a category page for the Leones? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:41, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

THE FAUSTIN BRATVA PAGES LOOKS HORRIBLE I REALLY HATED IT Just kidding, it looks very good. ;) --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 19:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Image violator 

Hey Ilan, I keep noticing that User:LOLiva696 is uploading more images which have already been uploaded by a different user or the image name doesn't follow the image policy. Ciao Instulent (talk) 09:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Doubts about the image policy

I noticed you deleted some of my pictures about the weapon's locations around San Andreas but I dont understand whats the problem. I think it is better to have a map than some written descriptions of the place.

Alexis.coutinho (talk) 13:59, July 25, 2013 (UTC)


Why did you renamed the Ballas' pages? It is totally unecesarily. At least if you were going to apply (HD Universe) instead of in the HD Universe why didn't you did so for Grove Street Families aswell? Better re-rename to how it was before.Dodo8 Talk

Did you read that, Ilan?Dodo8 Talk

K-Jah West

I have a serious problem. Look, if you try to add categories to this page it wouldn't appear after you reload the page. What is happened? --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 17:55, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Instu tried the same and it doesn't work too --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 18:18, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Dats righttt Instulent (talk) 18:22, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

I discovered the problem, if you try to add category to anyone page from this list , the category will not appear. Is there a way to correct this bug? --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 18:25, July 25, 2013 (UTC)


Hold your ass, Brother Uncle Ilan! I haven't got the time to get in to that plus I can't even touch the Crew settings on my retarded cellphone. My parents are planning to turn on our Internet this Saturday, maybe then I'll start to accept reqs if the website doesn't blank on me again.

Plus, how come you deleted my MoS/Weaponry page? Rhem created his a day after mine.

--Tony1998 (Talk * Contribs)-- 00:21, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Template need adding

Hai Ilan, could you add the '' template to the Characters in GTA V and Vehicles in GTA V pages please. Thanks Instulent (talk) 17:21, July 26, 2013 (UTC)



Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:15, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Hi Ilan and happy birthday:D  Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 22:37, July 26, 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

MoS/Weaponry I mean "Weapons"

Salvations from Kifflom to you and Happy Birthday to you, brother!. I wanted to know, how come you redirected my MoS/Weaponry page to Rhem's, MoS/Weapons page? He had created his a day after mine and when I found out about it, I gave him obligations to edit my MoS/Weaponry page if it was lacking anything or anything that needed to be changed.


--Tony1998 (Talk * Contribs)-- 00:31, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Sure I like to chat soon, Brother Uncle. Hope your cake was delicioso!
--Tony1998 (Talk * Contribs)-- 05:10, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Happy B-day!

Happy Birthday kid-o!!!  Boomer8 (talk) 04:03, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
Happy Birthday GTA!


Happy b-day!

For my dear friend, Ilan:

Huge Cake

Dodo8 Talk

Happy B-Day

Happy B-Day my badass friend!!


Happy B-day

--Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 09:32, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, man!

Happy Birthday, Ilan!

Here you go:


Doesn't the text in the cake sound fitting? :D

There's also a birthday song for you. It might sound familiar to you, from GTA IV (just don't smoke any weed).

Have a nice day, man!

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 10:05, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

OK, good choice, bro'. :)

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:37, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

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Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Ilan! Live like 100 years and continue to expand the wiki :). Jeansowaty 10:22, July 27, 2013 (UTC)Jeansowaty2

RE: Okay I will :D Jeansowaty 12:45, July 27, 2013 (UTC)Jeansowaty

Happy Birthday Mr.Ilan!

Happy Birthday Ilan and many happy returns! (Also I heard you like Linkin Park so look down below :D) Instulent (talk) 10:33, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
File:For Ilan ;)

Mmmm Bananas

Happy Birthday Buddy

Hey Ilan, hope your birthday makes everything come true, so have a awesome birthday okay dude. :) Cloudkit01 (talk) 13:00, July 27, 2013 (UTC)


Hey Ilan, are you in the mood for chat? --Kingrhem (Talk) (Edits) 14:53, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

6000th Edit :D!

Congrats for your 6000th edit --Kingrhem (Talk) (Edits) 18:58, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Have you ate your cake it's full of cherry :D

--Kingrhem (Talk) (Edits) 19:22, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Rename Category

Hi Ilan can you rename this category to Smart-phone Games Kingrhem (Talk Edits)


Just look at the history in the page Albanians, this guy just ignored the talk page and reverted my edits, returning the wrong information. It's better to you to deal with him. --Thomas0802 • (talkedits) 20:15, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

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