Response to archived conversation

Good day Monk, I just wish to inform you that I have responded to your message regarding the "Water Transport" category in Archive 23. It is a relatively unimportant response, but I felt that it would be appropriate to notify you, since I replied after you had archived your Talk page, and you may have missed it otherwise.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 16:21, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Already seen, thanks. The bot has done the job, btw. I also realised I can start using the bot to replace files that appear in millions of pages that have been if you ever need a file link to be updated after the file has been renamed, that appears on lots of pages, give me a shout. The bot-job list is defunct so I'm going to delete that. Just contact me if you ever need the bot to do something. Monk Talk 16:25, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
I see. That is quite convenient; thank you for telling me. By the way, have you gotten the bot able to italicize Grand Theft Auto titles yet?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 17:02, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
Not yet >:( Monk Talk 17:03, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
Drats. Please let me know if and when you make it do so, then I can stop the repetitive task of italicizing the titles.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 17:05, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

File name?

  • What's wrong with the file name of "File:Niko Bellic Transparent.png"? It isn't for any article; it was only for my userspace. I'm just wondering why you moved it, because I don't see anything wrong with the original name, personally. Krade (Board Contribs) 16:36, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
While files on user pages can be unlicensed, we personally prefer the files to be named consistently with those appearing on other articles, regardless of where they appear - this makes them easier to manage for whatever in future. Simply put, avoid spaces and mention game abbreviations if necessary. We don't usually rename them unless they are really poorly named (i.e, asdabdoasbodsa.jpg would be a poor file name and the file would either be renamed or deleted depending on how necessary the image is to the wiki) (if it's a random file completely unrelated to GTA, regardless of whether it appears on a user page or an article, it would be deleted but if it was a good quality GTA picture, just poorly named, we'd consider renaming it rather than deleting it). I only renamed yours today as I was cleaning up the recent uploads and saw that yours didn't quite match - it probably wouldn't happen normally :p. Don't feel threatened or offended by this, as this isn't an offense unless files are inserted to articles without proper names or licenses. Thanks. Stay safe :) Monk Talk 16:42, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
  • Alright, I understand. Thanks. Krade (Board Contribs) 16:46, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Gang Attacks Photo

Why did you remove my photo on Gang Attacks?

It was on topic, and I thought it was helpful. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by PwnageSoldier (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

It was poor quality - it appears to have been taken using a phone or camera, rather than a screenshot of the actual game. Large resolution doesn't make up for phone/camera shots. It was also unlicensed and poorly named. Please review the GTA Wiki:Media Policy for more information. Thanks. Monk Talk 17:02, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
I apologize, I added a description (summary) and put a license on it. But it remains of poor quality. I can't take high res photos on PS3, can I? So, yeah I did take it with a camera. I will not re-add this to the "Gang Attacks" topic until a photo with higher resolution is taken. PwnageSoldier (talk) 17:10, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately not. Perhaps you can purchase a capture card, move onto a platform that allows screen capturing, or request someone else to take the picture you're trying to upload (use the talk page of the article :p). Sorry I can't help you anymore than that, I realise it can be frustrating. Monk Talk 17:12, November 10, 2016 (UTC)
I'm a PS4 player as well, but I don't have a PS+ subscription, I have way worse stats, cash amount and level, and I don't find paying for next gen fun when last gen is still more fun. I'll try to buy a capture card. Thanks. PwnageSoldier (talk) 17:15, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Sandbox Invitation

Thought I'd invite you to my personal sandbox to practice around internal/model names for make-believe vehicles. If these vehicles ended up in a future DLC release, they're most likely coincidental and never intentional. Enjoy! ;) JohnSignature 00:04, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Blocking Policy

Considering your blocking policy that was only made by you and was closed successfuly that no one can break it, you broke it. For my behaviour, it says that I should be banned only for one week since it was first time, not infinitely. Mind explaining ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mantiix (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Looking at your chat ban log, we can see quite clearly this is not your 'first time'.
Let us also consider:
  • You have made only 25 edits,
    • 10 of which are mainspace
    • 7 of which are vandalism
      • 4 of which are hate towards users

Let us also consider your behaviour on other wikis, your involvement with this wiki, and the behaviour in this wiki's Chat.

In conclusion, I have not broken the policy, I have not breached the policy, and the block will not be listed.
Monk Talk 11:45, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
Bullshit. That's what I do on other wikis is not of your business, vandalism was already seen and even you gave me a chance unblocking me from infinite block, and also these 2 other bans weren't even connected to this wiki. Your smart brother banned me for no reason once. Mantiix (talk) 18:42, November 13, 2016 (UTC)
What happens on other wikis can have an effect on how people view you on other wikis, regardless of what it may be. Your vandalism was intentionally done, you cannot deny that it was not you, and personally your vandalism edits have come back to haunt you, as I feel they make up 50% of the reason you are now permanently banned from the GTA Wiki Chat. That is the end of this discussion. Goodbye. Monk Talk 19:07, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Inttxd

"txd" refers to "texture dictionary" rather than individual textures, so only V has an "intxd". For IV just refer to whatever the interior texture is called and for 3D universe either leave it empty or note that that interiors are generic and shared with just about every other vehicle.

And yes, that is correct. If there's a change in texturing, and it has a different name, then use this name. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 11-13-2016, 11:09:08 (EST)

Insurgent's Engine Model Image

The correct terminology of engine bay is the hood open, showing the entire engine sitting in its space. Could we somehow circumvent that MOS/V rule since the Insurgent and the other vehicles have no engine model? 

If that can't be changed and would rather have placeholder images, then one image for the Insurgent's sexy hood coming right up.

--Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 19:58, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

There isn't a need to change it - the MOS already complies with this exception:
"Engine bay - A view of the engine (OR where the engine would be if the vehicle's engine cannot be seen)"
MOS Vehicle Content
Monk Talk 20:01, November 15, 2016 (UTC)
I had never really thought about the logic behind the "engine bay =/= engine placement" rule, I'm aware what the bay means, however because the name "engine bay" was implemented into the design gallery system way before I even knew about the design galleries altogether, I had never really pondered on questioning it. We can change the title to "Engine view", if that would be more appropriate, as that does accept this exception, however we can't change the template field name without the help of the bot. Monk Talk 20:06, November 15, 2016 (UTC)
I agree that "Engine View" is indeed a more appropriate name for that particular Design Gallery image. However, for ease of editing, I would strongly suggest that the template parameter name be changed to "Engine_view_imagename". Additionally, I noticed that the "Other modelling" image has the rather strange parameter name "Damage_view_imagename", which is highly confusing in my opinion, and I recommend changing the parameter name to "Other_modelling_imagename" or something similarly appropriate.
UPDATE: I seem to have initially missed the gist of your last message Monk, as I now realize that you have already acknowledged the "Engine_bay_imagename" parameter name discrepancy that I mentioned above. However, as I also said, the "Damage_view_imagename" parameter name should also be updated when you make your bot update the parameters.
11:28, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:30, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
As I said already, I can only change parameter names with the help of the bot updating all the pages, which I am not doing yet. Damage view is named damage view because it was originally what it was - a damage shot of the car. Monk Talk 16:30, November 16, 2016 (UTC)
I see. Thank you for clarifying. Just to be certain, when you do come round to making your bot update the parameter names, do you also intend to change the "Damage_view_imagename" parameter, since the image that occupies that spot is no longer used for that purpose?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 03:21, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
Soon. I don't know, but soon. Monk Talk 18:40, November 17, 2016 (UTC)
That is good to hear. Take your time, I am in no way trying to rush you.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 23:33, November 17, 2016 (UTC)


Alright man. Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 21:43, November 15, 2016 (UTC)

CJ's Friends page deletion

Hello, do you mind telling me why did you removed the CJ's friends page that i created, i wasn't vandalizing you known... Tesshu (talk) 14:38, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

We don't need categories for individual "friends". Categories are categories, not specifics. Monk Talk 16:30, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Your edits

Good day, I have responded to your message on my Talk page. Please feel free to view it and respond if you wish.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 22:58, November 17, 2016 (UTC)


Chat? KM13 (talk) 17:27, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

Gallery edits on gang pages

I get it. GTAFan86 (talk) 18:56, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Jobs for your bot

Good day Monk, I have another job for your bot, but it is quite specific: make it add <noinclude> tags around [[Category:Userboxes]] links in templates if - and only if - the links are not already under the effects of <noinclude> tags. The reason for this is because a number of Userboxes apparently are not under the effects of the <noinclude> tags, as a number of User pages - including Sam's - are in the "Userboxes" category, which is almost certainly a result of an incorrectly tagged category in a Userbox template.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 20:39, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

I'll do it when I get the time. Thanks. Monk Talk 15:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Deleting template

Hi. May i ask, could you delete my signature template ? You can do it when you have a time. here. --GTAFan86 (talk) 15:44, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Done :) Monk Talk 15:48, November 24, 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much. GTAFan86 (talk) 15:47, November 24, 2016 (UTC)


I wanna ask you a question in private chat Monk. Could you join ? I am taking your only 1 moment. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:19, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

About you man. Only 1 minute. Waiting for you. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:27, November 24, 2016 (UTC)


Just don't do anything to your Wikia account, because I need a way to secretly talk to ya. MHM (talk) 03:19, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Capiton positions on Gallery's

What is so awful about changing the gallery captionalign position ? Monk, i am just asking. I'm sorry if i make you nervous. GTAFan86 (talk) 15:47, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

You're not making me "nervous". The standardization is "gallery center", as the bot has been doing, as we have all being doing - I don't see why we should now start centering captions, it looks awful, especially on longer ones. Gallery center is quite enough. Monk Talk 15:48, November 26, 2016 (UTC)
Hmm. Alright. Thanks for explaining me. Well, i'm going to revert my edit on The Long Stretch page. GTAFan86 (talk) 15:53, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Swift Livery

lol. don't panic.

I knew that since the Flight School Update became a thing. Which is why I was explicitly against splitting off Swift Classic from Flying Bravo.

The no-livery spawns in black. The livery spawns in white (because some liveries can be painted over). Dunno about IV, but the system DOES work in V. It's just that for some reason when you spawn it with trainers, it doesn't work. If you throw it into traffic, it will spawn as intended. Same for the Burritos - replace the popgroups file with Burritos only, and you'll never get all colors with all liveries.

Burger Shot Stallion I'm guessing is because livery support and the clutter. And since R* always wanted it to be available from websites, they went with a separate model instead of "buy stock, customize it yourself in LSC".

Tyrus either intended to spawn with a livery (but failed because the geniuses at R* made liveries a mod part), or they just got lazy. Why they added new colors, I don't know, but I have a suspicion going on as to why that happened.

Marshall is just like Swift/Burrito/Whateverelse. Dump it into traffic, it will spawn correctly. Either way, yes, the script specifies what livery/combo it needs to spawn with when ordering from Pegasus, otherwise it would be randomized when you'd order it - and that'd negate the purpose of making more money off selling the exact same model while passing it off as a separate one.

Post Op Boxville is either one of those: separate model to not fuck around with the original (especially because on Last-Gen R* thinks that vehicle models are not updatable, ever), make it easier on the scripting (copy paste model with all the work done vs an existing model coded over and over again to spawn with an exact livery and color combo), or someone not knowing they can replace models because that's not the first time R* literally copy pasted a model and used it as the mission/website vehicle (*looks at Heist Dinghy*).

So yeah, the system does work as intended. The rest is R* logic, basically. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 11-28-2016, 12:48:38 (EST)

Regarding my deleted disambiguation page

Good day Monk, I noticed that you have deleted my disambiguation page for "Vortex". I do not dispute the deletion, but if your rule were to be followed, should not the "Internet" page be deleted also? Like the former, that page is also for only two pages.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 19:52, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Why not. I don't know every page that meets this criteria, I'm just saying, the one you created, it's literally 2 different things, not exactly disambiguous. Monk Talk 20:13, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
I have deleted the page. Just to verify, how many similarly named pages should there be to warrant the creation of a disambiguation page in your opinion?
UPDATE: I have re-read your delete reason for the "Vortex" page, and I see that you have already answered my question: at least three pages need to exist with similar names before a disambiguation page should be created. I will follow this rule in the future. Thank you.
05:48, November 29, 2016 (UTC)
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 05:15, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the Special Vehicles article

Hello Monk, I have an issue with a particular page that has vexed me rather hopelessly: the Special Vehicles article has a header page that is used as a template on several pages, but it specifies that it is for 3D Universe vehicles only. Since special vehicles appear in both the 3D Universe as well as the HD Universe, the header is outdated, though I have not a clue as to what to do to make the header more compatible. Since you specialize in vehicle pages, I hope that you might have a better idea as to what to do.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:39, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

I don't see an issue - the template header is only found on 3D Universe pages, the games, etc. We don't need a header for HD Universe special pages, as no special vehicles have these unique properties in the HD Universe. Monk Talk 17:17, December 5, 2016 (UTC)
The issue is actually more specifically with the Special Vehicles article itself: the page has the header page template on it, but if you scroll down to the "By game" section, the list mentions HD Universe games as well as 3D Universe games, creating what I feel is a potentially misleading discrepency, as it might confuse people not familiar with the Grand Theft Auto series into thinking that games that are actually set in the HD Universe are in the 3D Universe. I would suggest either making some modifications to the header page template, or removing the template from the Special Vehicles article.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:59, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

Camilo Flores

Hey Monk, has Camilo Flores ever flipped out on everyone for no apparent reason and then decide to leave the wiki? Because he did that on the Watch Dogs Wiki, where he was a big help, and he just left flat out of nowhere. And I think he's done that here on this wiki before, if I'm correct. Am I? Just wanted to make sure, because he seems unpredictable. Chris6d (talk) 21:09, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Lol. Wouldn't be the first time. Monk Talk 21:32, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the "Administrator" template

Good day Monk, I wish to thank you for correcting my error with regards to the |link= code that I removed from the "Administrator" template. Despite my edit summary, the primary reason why I removed the code was for consistency reasons, as neither the "Patroller" template nor the "Bureaucrat" template had it. I have since added the code to all the Staff templates.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 12:52, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

No trouble, thanks for finishing the job off for me.
I also wish to apologise if I came across rude on Steam chat; I was rather busy as the internet was going off, on, had to keep turning off my PC, etc. The issue I had was a fault in the wall socket which I fixed myself in the end anyway. Thanks :)
PS what are your thoughts on the wiki's Christmas theme? Monk Talk 12:55, December 4, 2016 (UTC)
Not a problem, your frustration was understandable given the issues with your Internet, and I am glad that you resolved the problem.
With regards to the Christmas theme, I remember that we used almost exactly the same theme last year, but I must say that the animated snow is a very nice addition. The only qualm that I have is that the background image is (for me at least) tiled vertically down the page, as opposed to remaining fixed when the page is scrolled (as the normal background image is). I attempted to correct the problem, but to no avail. It seems that the issue is a too-small image size, so if you have a larger copy of the image on your PC, I suggest that you try using it. By the way, how did you add the animated snow?
Thirdly, have you had a chance to look at either of these two issues? If not, please try and look into them at some point.
Finally, Just to verify, do you need to be logged into your bot account before it can edit, or can it execute its tasks spontaneously without you being signed in? I noticed that it did not automatically add a redirect page that I created to the "Redirects" category.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:19, December 5, 2016 (UTC)
I do not have a larger copy unfortunately, I can't see how I can fix it from scrolling, it IS really annoying. The Snow is a JS script on the MediaWiki:ImportJS page. I planned on editing the script to make more snow fall but it dramatically slows down website loading times.
I haven't had a chance to look back at the two pages. I can't see the main page issue so I can't really fix that really. Special Vehicles - I'll take a look.
Bot - I don't have to be signed on on the wiki, just the AWB software. Not sure what you mean by the redirect situation, could you rephrase that? Monk Talk 15:50, December 5, 2016 (UTC)
With regards to the background image, why don't you try upscaling the image (stretching the original image using Paint, Photoshop or similar editing software), saving the stretched image as the default resolution, then using it as the wiki background. Since the image is stretched anyway in the background it should not impact its quality. Try upscaling the image to the same dimensions as the normal background image.
With regards to the Main Page issue, what are you not able to see, what browser are you using, and what page are you looking at exactly: the Main Page itself, the slider template or another template?
With regards to the redirects, there is no immediate issue as far as I can tell, but how long does it normally take between the creation of an uncategorized redirect and the bot adding it to the "Redirects" category? A few months ago I checked an uncategorized redirect that I made around ten minutes after I made it, and I noticed that it was still not added to the "Redirects" category at that time.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 21:01, December 6, 2016 (UTC)
Main Page - I don't see the issue because all my devices are widescreen and fixed widescreen width. Perhaps you can try fix it yourself.
I don't think you understand how the bot works - it isn't just going to "add" the category any time a redirect is created. It isn't fully automated. I would have to tell it to add categories to the latest redirect pages, I can't get it to do it ANY time a redirect is created. Monk Talk 15:37, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
You were correct: I did not properly understand how the bot works, and I thank you for clarifying. Also, since you cannot see the problem on the Main Page that I am asking you to fix, I will try to fix it again myself at some point.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:49, December 16, 2016 (UTC)


Like your avi and the thing next to it. Really brings out your holiday spirit and stuff. Also, I like the wiki background, and the snow feature. The snow even piles up on my keyboard (still on tablet, so it makes sense). MHM (talk) 20:57, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

While we were in chat, my internet went out. Also, don't be sorry. There's nothing for you to be sorry about. MHM (talk) 21:49, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

About Cam...

Just being a curious little bastard, but what happened to Camilo? Seems that the vehicle model name assumption thing drove him off... with that being said, I probably answered my own question lol.

--Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 08:59, December 6, 2016 (UTC)

Camilo left because he "didn't feel welcome anymore". In actuality, Camilo left because he couldn't decipher a little old quote a like to live up to, "if a job's worth doing it's worth doing properly";
When Camilo left "last" time, he said he wouldn't be returning again....what he meant was he wouldn't be editing for 22 days, which is considered to be a "long time". My only assumption, which is probably true knowing the past "fall outs" we had, is that he left (on the 18th of October) because he was "insulted" by my advice; in a nutshell, Camilo's main contribution in my concern was rewriting performance sections and basically trashing them with his poor grammar and English; while everyone is entitled to edit, I was merely trying to advise him to work on what bits he was rewriting so I wouldn't have to fix up his grammar and English. Obviously my advice was thrown out of the window when he left back in October and full-on taken as an insult just this November, so I have no intentions of helping the user again.
He left in November for one absolutely certain reason (given the edit summaries); he couldn't, as I already said, decipher the meaning of the phrase "if a job's worth doing it's worth doing properly"; as part of the infobox extension WildBrick created, I decided to help out as the major part in filling in all the fields. Now, being the quote follower I am, I decided it was best to take this slowly and get everything filled in on EACH page rather than rushing through pages and MISSING information. This infobox extension only took off just around the time Camilo left in October, which meant that I was really the only one working on it - I had no problem with this, as even WildBrick stated (no source, think was in chat?) there was absolutely no rush or immediate demand for the extension project, so I was laid back and planned on doing the absolute majority of pages.
Camilo returns after a "long break", and sees that all the necessary information for the infobox parts, including the vehicles.ide, vehicles.meta and all CarCols.dat date had been added to the wiki by me recently. He decided to hop on the band wagon and "help", but when I (and WildBrick just yesterday) picked up on the fact he was merely guess-ing information for the infoboxes, I was very reluctant on letting him do that - of course, wiki being wiki allows him to edit anything unrestricted, so I can't and wasn't "stopping him from editing", I was recommending him to avoid "attempting" to fill in information if he wasn't solid on knowing it. Incidentally, I DID provide a pretty simple guide on knowing how to fill in this information into the sandbox, but I don't think he had the care to check this out, so more fool him for doing so. I guess you could say, he brought it on himself. So after noticing this, I recommended he stick to the 3D universe vehicles, as that's much less complex information (be careful, too complex may confuse Camilo). Of course, he partially stuck by this, but he still didn't quite get the message when I insisted that the job was worth doing properly, so he starts filling in 3D universe information and that caused problems when it came to 3D+HD universe vehicles, generic vehicles such as the Bus, Sentinel, etc, so now the EXTREME majority of infoboxes are now HALF COMPLETE, which has of course, really messed up my plans.
To conclude, he "leaves for a long time", returns when he sees the opportunity to practically hijack the speed and efficiency of my project, and then leaves me along with the guilt, blame and reputation of apparently "not welcoming him here". I am absolutely not going to stand being responsible for him leaving. He made that choice, I made it loud and clear for him to stop with the guessing information, the random reverting, the assumptions, etc, I made it clear how the project should and would have gone, how it was best to have gone, but he chose to ignore that, carry on, leave me with a partially-built project, and leave me with that. I'm a heavily depressed man, Tony, do you think I am going to stand for that? Do you think I will stand for being held responsible for something that isn't remotely my fault? I held my hand out with all the information needed to help him, even though I had no idea he was going to jump in the role of taking on such a big project, but I still allowed him to continue, and he left because he couldn't listen? Or was it just to make me feel bad?
As you can see, I have a lot to say about this, because quite frankly, I don't know what else to think. Monk Talk 15:43, December 6, 2016 (UTC)


Truffade is probably the Chiron.

The Progen could be a newer McLaren, but it could also be the 12C. They're pretty popular and I'm surprised it hasn't been added to be honest.

Can almost guarantee the Blazer Aqua is a quadski. Not sure about rockets though.

Could the rocket Voltic be the Venom? It's either a car that fires rockets, or a car where rocket is a reference to speed.

Think you're spot on with the DB11 though.

I'll keep an eye out for leaked images of the content though, that will give us a much better idea of what to expect.

The rumored December DLC was supposedly split in two due to its size, so we might not see all of them immediately. 5.7mil for a car though? Leo68 (talk) 22:12, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

The fact there's a Nero and Nero Custom supports the idea of Chiron and Chiron GT
My thoughts exactly with McLaren. Probably the 675t and its race counterpart.
Rocket Voltic is rocket voltaic - it's literally a Voltic with rockets attached, firing ones. There's a diagram pic from RSC leaked, same with the wedges.
The update will likely be like FAIFAF and bikers: Continuations. I reckon it'll release 13 cars at first, similar to previous large updates, and the other 12 across 4 weeks of 3 cars per week. Monk Talk 22:24, December 7, 2016 (UTC)
Sounds about right. Unless they drag it out like Bikers and we have 12 weeks of sales and a new vehicle every week. Most of the shit I'm seeing is fake, no images yet but certainly code. I expect it'll be released on the 20th, so that they can add the Christmas content as well. Leo68 (talk) 22:32, December 7, 2016 (UTC)


The speedometers in GTA 5 are known to be completely false, I removed that part because speedometers always contradict actual speed. Matrexpingvin (talk) 13:44, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

And? It's still information, they're still statistics, even if they're "wrong", it's still information which varies between vehicles and should be mentioned on articles. The statement wherein the speedometer was mentioned was merely clarifying that the top speed of the car in both files and speedometers doesn't match the actual top speed of the car, it never mentioned anything about the speedometer being "correct". Monk Talk 14:05, December 10, 2016 (UTC)

Look, I've made some mistakes and I'm sorry. I'll be more careful in the future and will only correct actual grammar and stuff like that. I never meant to have a negative effect on the wiki. Matrexpingvin (talk) 16:53, December 10, 2016 (UTC)


In response to every mess I've caused, let me say that I am sorry. Really sorry.

Basically my attitude was worse because of many problems in both personal life and on the wiki and, as you said, I hardly take friendly advices to improve my behaviour, which is pretty much a fatal mistake (finally recognize that), so, in an apparent unstability of my emotions, I was very depressed to even listen the proper ways to improve and not to "de-prove".

If there is still an opportunity to edit around there, I promise that I would improve my editings and fixing anything that was messed up (and to not get involved in another future vehicle project anymore, just sticking to the basics).

Can I be here? Thanks in advance. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 19:17, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

You just can't resist can you? Honestly Camilo, whether you stay here or not is A) not my problem and B) not my decision. If you don't like it, go, simple. I don't like your attitude lately so I don't (and won't) want to help you. I can't just accept an apology when it's happening time and time and time and time again. You say you won't get in the way with things, and you do. I don't mind that, but when you get in the way and slow things down, OR get in the way and do things wrong, that's when I do mind. And your attitude at WD Wiki tells me this "BYE!" attitude keeps recurring. Monk Talk 20:31, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
I know this isn't any of my business, but Monk, you have to expect people to say things like Camillo said. Ali said he'd leave the myths wiki. Took him a while to mean it. I said the same thing, and it took about two months, but I did. I contemplated leaving wikia, but settled against it, because you're still here, and i can't hate every wiki, for something some tiny wiki did. Camillo, deeply consider whether or not you want to leave, before announcing it. MHM (talk) 22:20, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Vehicle Pages

Thanks for filling in the blanks, I really need to replace the piece of shit I call my computer. On another note, have the other vehicles been found in the files? I noticed the ItaliGTB was up and I hear there's another 12 vehicles to come. Leo68 (talk) 21:50, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah they're all in the files:
  • Nero
  • Nero Custom
  • Itali GTB
  • Itali GTB Custom
  • Ruiner3 (unused)
  • FCR 1000
  • FCR 1000 Custom
  • Comet Retro Custom
I'll create the pages tomorrow. The images of the vehicles up, I left the Legendary MS descriptions on the source of the main import/export page. :) Monk Talk 21:58, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Looking forward to seeing the Nero. Big fan of the Chiron, has to be what it is. RIP Adder. You could say RIP X80 too. Rocket Voltic is better in every way, and costs more (for those snooty folk who want to have the most expensive car in the game). Leo68 (talk) 22:10, December 13, 2016 (UTC)
Nero Custom is a right rip off of the Vision GT haha. Shame that the Nero appears to share the same top speed as Adder (though I didnt look at the drag and force figures), and Nero Custom is .2 more than Nero. Lmao. Monk Talk 22:15, December 13, 2016 (UTC)

Promotion request

Hi, im HR-670, and I want to be a patroller of this wiki. I'm also a big fan vehicles in all GTA Series and real life.HURACAN-LP670 (talk) 04:56, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Good day sir, I see that you wish to be a Patroller on the GTA Wiki. Please refer to this page to make a request to be promoted. However, please do not lodge a request at this time, as you do not currently meet the promotion criteria, which requires applicants to have been active on the GTA Wiki for at least two months, with at least 500 constructive edits (though exceptions may be made on the second rule).
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 16:06, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the Dodo

Good day Monk, I seek your opinion on one of my recent actions: I added the Dodo to the "Amphibious Vehicles" category, as it is able to land on both land and water, and I wish to know whether you feel it is appropriate for it to be there.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 16:24, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Sounds good :) - Monk Talk 21:33, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
That is good to hear. I will leave it as it is then. Thank you for your input.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:16, December 15, 2016 (UTC)


We need to contact Wikia to make sure that he's no longer welcome in Wikia whatsoever so it prevents him from causing any problems on any other Wikias he sets foot in, as in him being blocked from accessing any Wikias at all. Its like he basically begs for attention and accuses admins for trolling so he'll need a hard lesson he'll never forget. Thought I'd let you know is all. JohnSignature 19:41, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

I do not believe that we need to go as far as that. While I agree that "White44Tree"'s behaviour towards me is unacceptable, he apparently intended it as a "joke". As I have already mentioned on his Talk page, if he had performed a similar antic on me as a close friend, I might not have minded as much (and I have at least one fairly close friend who does something similar (he routinely insults me jokingly and likes to jokingly call me a pedophile due to the fact that I have a fair number of younger Friends on Xbox LIVE)), but since he does not, it is a rather rude thing to do. I think that a month-long block - which Monk has already issued - is a sufficient consequence for his actions, and I do hope that he learns from it.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 20:18, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
You can never be too careful. Especially after what happened when another user went as far as to threaten to hack GTA Wiki, or any other Wikis, months ago, which led Monk into becoming irate. If he comes back the coming year and he still shows this kind of behavior, then he's clearly showing malicious acts and its imperative that actions must be taken seriously, not just here, but everywhere else. JohnSignature 03:27, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
That is fair enough. However, I must say that had I been hacked every single time somebody had threatened to do so, my Internet connection, data, PCs, and in particular my Xbox consoles would have been compromised around three years ago; my point being that it is highly unlikely that users such as "White44Tree" actually know how to hack. Personally, I am considering studying computer hacking myself, as I find that it is useful information, and I would be able to use it both to protect myself online, and also to, for example, work with the police to catch cyber-criminals. By the way, I assume that you were referring to "Mr Zuul" (or his sockpuppet account) when you mentioned the other user?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:54, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
Maybe. However, Mr Zuul's grammar is far too different compared to White44Tree's, plus he returned to editing rather poorly from last year so they're pretty different, so I doubt they're the same. But either way, its best to keep an eye out should his ban become lifted and resume causing trouble. JohnSignature 12:20, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
You seem to have misunderstood my question: I was not suggesting that "Mr Zuul" and "White44Tree" are the same person; rather, I was asking whether the other user who "led Monk into becoming irate" was "Mr Zuul".
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 07:21, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
Ah. Then yes, it is. That's what I was referring to. Sorry if my comment didn't made much sense. JohnSignature 19:12, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
Not a problem. Thank you for clarifying Johnny.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 23:26, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Special Vehicle Work

Hey buddy. One question.

What is more preferable to start with it? I'm thinking of creating each of the eight missions for the special vehicles and explaining how each of these works. The other option would be creating the page "Special Vehicle Work" and list every mission there, with a description of what vehicles are used and what to do in each of them. Any good hint? Thanks in advance. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 20:23, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

On a second thought, nevermind. Maybe it is better to have them separated. Now I need to see where the "Special Vehicle Work" can be listed. (SecuroServ?, Warehouses?, anything else? I dunno). --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 21:27, December 14, 2016 (UTC)
They're accessed through Secure Serv network, so that's where it should go. Warehouses aren't to do with these missions. Monk Talk 21:33, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

San Fierro

Hi. I'm really sorry, but I want only to know why the others have deleting my content at this wiki, for example the San Fierro's motto is "The CIty of Psychedelic Wonders" and I put that in infobox and after few minutes, someone delete that.MIHAJLO150 (talk) 12:18, December 15, 2016 (UTC)

Because that is not true. Just because The Truth makes the quote, doesn't mean it's an official motto. Mottos are seen on city seals, which this is not. Also, your attitude towards editing the page and requesting people not to remove the "data" isn't responsible, as this is wikilawyering. Monk Talk 14:36, December 15, 2016 (UTC)



it's from the Bikers update, but, hey, we got a decoded file! V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 12-15-2016, 01:02:25 (EST)

I guess I'll start working on the cars properly then :D Monk Talk 18:26, December 15, 2016 (UTC)
I have just looked at the "carvariations.ymt" file, and I cannot help but ask: how on earth do you work out which part of the code corresponds to which vehicle?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:41, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
It's actually quite simple. Unlike other parts of the files, Carvarations.ymt is neatly laid out. Here's 9F's
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="3" />
            <Item value="1" />
            <Item value="7" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="31" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="32" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="34" />
            <Item value="12" />
            <Item value="29" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="4" />
            <Item value="1" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="6" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="73" />
            <Item value="1" />
            <Item value="74" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="70" />
            <Item value="70" />
            <Item value="74" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="5" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="3" />
            <Item value="3" />
            <Item value="5" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="12" />
            <Item value="14" />
            <Item value="7" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="7" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="111" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="9" />
            <Item value="7" />
            <Item value="121" />
            <Item value="156" />
            <Item value="38" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="88" />
            <Item value="156" />
      <windowsWithExposedEdges />
            <Name>standard white</Name>
            <Value value="100" />
      <lightSettings value="58" />
      <sirenSettings value="0" />
Basically, the model name of the vehicle is listed at the top of each "variations". Then, all the possible colors are listed underneath this, as such:
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="0" />
            <Item value="156" />
This is one of the 15 color sets this vehicle has. These numbers are the four available colors of the vehicle; primary, secondary (if has), pearl, and wheel. They correspond to a bank of 160 different default colors, in the file carcols.ymt. As you can see, the numbers are in order, and for this specific example, 0,0,0,156 would equate to Primary: Black metallic, Secondary: Black metallic, Pearl: Black metallic, and Wheel: Default Alloy Color chrome. I listed the in-game names of the colors here. Monk Talk 14:12, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
If you had access to a Trainer, you might come across some vehicles which, even when changing the color USING the trainer, the vehicle's color won't change. This happens on numerous vehicles, including the Boxville (Post OP). This is because the game spreads a vehicle livery over the entire vehicle and thus cannot be resprayed. You can always change the pearl, but some vehicle textures have permanent primary and secondary vehicle colors. For example, the green and red on the Flying Bravo Swift cannot be changed, and the file claims that underneath this livery it is simply colored white. The Boxville Post OP is colored dark brown underneath its livery, removing the livery shows that. Monk Talk 14:12, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
I can see the simplicity of the layout now. Thank you for clarifying.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 17:34, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the Ruiner 2000

Hello Monk, I have a question regarding the Ruiner 2000: is it considered a Personal Vehicle or Pegasus vehicle?

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:23, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

It's a personal vehicle, but it can't be sold, it's unique; when you purchase this vehicle, it goes into underground storage if you own a warehouse, not sure where it goes if you don't own a warehouse though, as the Phantom Wedge, Wastelander, etc, work the same, and they obviously don't go into a normal garage if you don't own a warehouse. Monk Talk 14:12, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
I see. Well, forgive my improper English, but I have got to get me one of those! The Ruiner 2000 is probably the most appealing vehicle that I have seen in quite a while, being both aesthetically pleasing and functionally useful. By the way, with regards to my error on the Warstock Cache & Carry article with regards to the Ramp Buggy, I realized the mistake, and I was about to fix it myself when you did, but thank you anyway for correcting it.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 17:26, December 16, 2016 (UTC)
One of the best vehicles out there :P Though I really need a Ramp Buggy! :) Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Hidden Vehicle Prices

Since the decompiled scripts are out, I had a look myself, and yes, these prices are correct. Green light to add them to pages. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 12-19-2016, 05:30:01 (EST)

What were the Itali GTB (& Custom) and FCR 1000 (& Custom) prices again? Lost the Twitter page xD Merry Christmas! :) Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the Nero Custom

Good day Monk, just out of curiosity, may I ask why you deleted the Nero Custom article?

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:42, December 20, 2016 (UTC)

I deleted it because I originally stated, for the purposes of consistency, I would create all the new pages in batch and then fill in from there, however, the lack of focus and time for the wiki means I never got round to it :P Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Troublesome user and page deletion

Hi Monk. It's good to see you again. Anyway, I'm here to ask if you can block, or at least warn this user because he keeps adding either false or unsourced information to the Janet Vance and Victor Vance pages and I've had to revert his edits. Also, can you delete this page (State of Kleinburg)? I've already marked it for deletion. Andy A. (Talk · Edits) 01:47, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Done.--MythHunter 007 Talk 11:10, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Andy A. (Talk · Edits) 14:42, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

Question About Trivia Removal

Hi, I'm not really sure if this is where I should be posting to contact you - if not please direct me to where I can properly do this. Anyway, the trivia I added to both "Elegy Retro Custom" and "Ambulance" have both been removed and I'm unsure why. If you need any sort of evidence to prove the legitimacy of the trivia, please let me know. Thank you.

Also, the first time I tried to leave this message here, it apparently got attatched to the post above this. This was accidental, and I've since edited it out. I'm in no way making any attempts at spaming, and I'm sorry for causing any sort of trouble. SnipperDoodle (talk) 11:26, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

I know this is unrelated, but I was watching a Rockstar Logic episode on YT. It had some interesting things, but what makes sense to be in a trivia is how one of the new cars has no passenger door handle. MHM (talk) 17:03, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
I removed the trivia because it was absolutely not trivial. It was definitely, definitely a coincidence. And coincidences that seem trivial are indeed not trivial. The Ambulance and Elegy Retro Custom have no relation whatsoever, and any shared references are, as stated, coincidental. Also, please don't worry about spamming, etc, you made a mistake and I'm fine by that :) @KingMyth that trivia notation has already been listed on the page. Monk Talk 17:44, December 21, 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, I see the issue with the ambulance, however it seems hard to believe that it'd be a coincidence since both numbers follow the same pattern: Engine - Car. For example, "RB26-32R", or "4AG-86". It's not really a relation to the Elegy Retro Custom, but more to the actual cars referenced. If it's a coincidence then it's the craziest one I've ever seen since it's too perfect, haha. Anyway as for the Elegy Retro Custom, don't you think the reference to the number 23 on the Meinmacht livery is trivial? Or that the "LTD" livery references the ADVAN GT-R? Here's why I think so:
The number 23 is often used by Nissan on their racecars as wordplay, since "23" pronounced in Japanese is "Ni-San".
Look at the bottom Elegy and compare it to this:
The "STP" and "LTD" stickers have similar placement on the cars and exhibit similar colors. There are also other sponsor placements that are similar on both cars. Of course the car needs to be painted red in order for the "LTD" livery to look like the Advan one, but the "Meinmacht" livery also needs to be painted blue in order to look like the Calsonic GT-R.
Whatever you do is up to you, I just thought that you should consider this. Thanks!
SnipperDoodle (talk) 19:35, December 21, 2016 (UTC)SnipperDoodle
I have reviewed the references that you have posted, and I believe that the trivia that my colleague removed is indeed relevant, so I have decided to re-add your notes, with some minor changes. Monk, if you disagree with my decision, please feel free to discuss the matter with me.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 03:41, December 22, 2016 (UTC)
Thank you!
SnipperDoodle (talk) 05:53, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Hey there! Sorry, I haven't been around focused enough to reply to your messages. I must say, after looking through it properly, the trivia is indeed very interesting, so thank you for bringing it to the wiki, thank you for consulting me about my revert, and thank you, Konan, for reinstating it :) I apologise I reverted it in the first place - I haven't been entirely focused here lately, so I probably didn't look at the links either. Now that I've looked into it, it does deserve to be here, good find man! :) Happy holidays! Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Weapon Names

Are you talking about the GTA V weapon models? I think I finished with them two months ago. Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 21:36, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Um... I'm not positive that I'll go and do this for all these files for now, I was just taking care of some of them that appeared while doing some cleanup. Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 21:52, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Profile Cover Photo

May i ask, how did you do your cover photo on your profile ? I'm curious about this. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:05, December 24, 2016 (UTC)

CSS coding. A very hard task of making it align properly (I cheated by making the picture a funny shape :P). Happy holidays! :-) Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. Merry Christmas :) GTAFan86 (talk) 14:24, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings!

Wishing all GTA Wiki Staff a Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays and a Happy and Prosporous New Year!

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

You too! :) Monk Talk 10:41, December 25, 2016 (UTC)
Merry Christmas Monk. MHM (talk) 14:37, December 25, 2016 (UTC)


Hey Monk, could you please help me with this template? I have hecked something up and I don't know what I have hecked up. Thank you in advance. Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 13:33, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Adder (yup)
Fixed but not fixed. 3rd parameter doesn't work, so you can't change the display text of links, no idea how to fix that. Monk Talk 13:43, December 25, 2016 (UTC)
Alright, I will try something later(now) Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 13:49, December 25, 2016 (UTC)
Well, fixed that, but you will need to write like
in order to work, but I will try to do something to prevent that Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?)
Small update: got to fix everything, so no need to use as said above Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 13:58, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Vehicle warehouse

Message received. Will crack on tomorrow. :) Sam Talk 23:42, December 25, 2016 (UTC)


I'm here. RoachTheIntelCollector (talk) 15:53, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

Just in case

If it comes to my latest edits on Ivan the Not So Terrible, I didn't want to pointsgame, I have just done some unintentional mistakes, that I have noticed after clicking the "Publish" button Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 18:37, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

There isn't such thing as pointsgaming here in reality. Just recommendable to commpact edit numbers to avoid conflict :) Monk Talk 18:51, December 26, 2016 (UTC)
Alright Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 19:06, December 26, 2016 (UTC)

Cynthia Farrell

Hello admin, I'm join this Wikia for a long time but I'm not usually contribution due to I don't have much time and knowledge, but today I have a question to ask you: Can I replace a new pic for Cynthia Farrell (Catalina's voice actress in GTA 3 and SA)? I don't think my pic is unique but I think it make her much beautiful Nguyễn Anh Lâm

If the image is good quality and isn't modified in anyway, go for it, just remember to follow the image policy. :) Monk Talk 20:45, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Keep falling for it...Again

You're damn prank of You Have New Messages is affecting me, as I really thought I have new messages, but you're dirty little prank sends me  to you're site. Also I came here to ask how can you change the size of an image? My size is too big for an article. Thanks User:Big Brother1(Text/Pevert) 19:03, December 30, 2016 (UTC)Big Brother1

Haha, my prank is just awesome :P
Resizing images: On the wiki, images can be changed in size on pages by adding |[number]px to the file at the end, before the two closing square brackets, for example, [[File:A PICTURE.png|thumb|325px]]. Monk Talk 20:45, January 5, 2017 (UTC)


Just wondering, are those screenshots taken in an empty public session? If so, what method did you use?

If you're online right now we can play (no pvp tho), wasn't around to see the message yesterday. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01-02-2017, 09:38:10 (EST)

I'll come on now. No PVP, need to complete a collection and sell it, so yeah, haha.
Well, I play for around 3 hours. I just find a lobby with around 12 players and eventually players just end up leaving, but they usually don't disturb me anyway (usually messing around in Bikers groups or some other nonsense) - except yesterday where one twat wouldn't leave me alone after I accidentally locked onto him taking down a cop chopper. There's me chasing around the map after an Osiris but this guy can't help trying to kill me. Bruh. 30 fucking minutes it took me to deliver the car to the warehouse. Monk Talk 14:47, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
If you get an empty/low-numbered public session, feel free to drop me an invite. I can help out. (Just keep in mind that if any danger will be coming on me from other players I may spontaneously leave the session in panic :p) V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01-02-2017, 09:59:30 (EST)

Road Train

Hello. I cant find vehicle RoadTrain & Tanker in the handling.cfg 

Can u help me where i can download Handling on RoadTrain & Tanker? Thanks. DemonDemo (talk) 15:27, January 2, 2017 (UTC)EzyDemonDemo (talk) 15:27, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

If I recall correctly, these two vehicles use the same handling.cfg as the Linerunner. Monk Talk 20:45, January 5, 2017 (UTC)


Hey Monk, its me Andrey. I'm sorry, but its me who trolled KingMyth13, he deserves to be unblocked, block me. SuperMythGangster (talk) 15:00, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Not a first time you tried to accuse Andrey of being a troll and vandal I see. Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 15:06, January 3, 2017 (UTC)
Also Andrey is not blocked here and he could use his normal account to post a message like that Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 17:50, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Editing navigation boxes

Could you take a look at these two pictures and tell me which one looks neater? original modified
It's just a couple of edits but I couldn't figure out a way to change the list's white background without a small edit to MediaWiki:Wikia.css.
Here's the edit for Template:Navboxes to finish the editing.
I actually made the latter edit already. As I don't have permissions for the Wikia.css I'm asking if you could do it? In my opinion it looks a lot cleaner with the gray background. Flaicher (talk) 18:58, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

I really like what you've done here. I'll implement the code into wikia.css. The new changes you've made really do fit in well with the css coding and template edits I made over the past few months to make infoboxes, tables, tabbers, wikiarail, header, most banner templates, etc, all consistent in design, border, color, etc. Thanks a lot for finishing something off :) Monk Talk 20:45, January 5, 2017 (UTC)


Just before you go, if you see this message, this guy removed over 5,000 bytes of the Minigun page. I think it's vandalism, but it could've been an accident. Regardless, you should check it out immediately and warn this user. What do you think? Chris6d (talk) 21:54, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

It's definitely an accident. It's consequent to the WikiaFandom bug that's been going around. {achooh} Monk Talk 22:02, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

Long time no speak

Hey man, just realized it's been a while since we last spoke. How's everything going? :) Sam Talk 22:56, January 5, 2017 (UTC)

I'm doing good thanks. How was your Christmas? Sorry I didn't talk in a while. Monk Talk 19:41, January 6, 2017 (UTC)
No worries. It was good thanks, though I got a cold and sore throat from it. Sam Talk 20:11, January 6, 2017 (UTC)
How festive of Santa :P We need to catch up some time, on chat maybe. :) Monk Talk 20:12, January 6, 2017 (UTC)
Sure thing. I'm in there now if you want a chat. Sam Talk 20:13, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

The Maverick from "Cash in Kazuki's Chips" is NOT Bullet or Explosion proof. Chun Yu Chan (talk) 08:58, January 8, 2017 (UTC)Chun Yu Chan

Alderney Museum

Maybe I am wrong or sth, but if the banner says about 330th anniversary, then why it is still marked as being opened in 1708? It should be opened in 1678. As I aforementioned, I may be wrong, because the source of the date may be somewhere else. Indep (Wanna map?|Wat I'm doing?) 18:56, January 9, 2017 (UTC)


These are just placeholders of what they said on the infoboxes. I'll make a way to standardize them, since I need to check the interiors properly, finding the similarities and stuff like that.

BTW, all names are custom. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 19:53, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

  • For sure I'll consider that. Let me first re-structure the tables, so "visual" and "technical" aspects are listed, and it is for every vehicle. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 20:00, January 9, 2017 (UTC)
  • Geez. That surely is gonna save time for me, and is a good addition, even for a sandbox page like that. :D

BTW, feel free to edit as you wish, in case you wanna provide something better. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 02:35, January 10, 2017 (UTC)


Remember me? I don't blame you if you don't. I never play GTA V anymore, or use my Xbox, for that matter. But I saw your message on my talk page that you wrote like 8 months ago and I just wanted to let you that I'm doing great! Probably better than I ever have before.

P.S. sorry if I messed the formatting up on this, I haven't used this site since June of 2016. JIRALSIGNATURE (Talk) 05:35, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah I sure do remember u :) Monk Talk 18:36, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

PC specs

I'm pretty sure my PC can run at minimum specs for GTA V, but apparently, no matter what settings, constant texture loads and stutters remain prevalent even at the lowest settings. And no, I don't have ANY mods on GTA V because R* can permaban you even if you don't use it for GTA Online. And another no, I don't have a supercomputer-grade PC to run the game or any other games that require a ridiculous amount of high-end specs. JohnSignature 11:17, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

This is what I mean. I hope you understand that even the best PCs are not immune to these kinds of issues. JohnSignature 02:38, January 13, 2017 (UTC)
I believe that that issue happened to me a small number of times a long time ago on both the Xbox 360 and Xbox One when I was doing missions for Lester. Unless I am mistaken, it is due to a delayed loading of high-resolution textures, instead showing the low-resolution LOD textures which are only meant to be used when the player is very far away from the location. I do not know whether it is more common on the PC version of Grand Theft Auto V, as I have yet to try playing the game on that console, but I do eventually intend to transfer my Grand Theft Auto Online character to the PC version of the game when I am satisfied with my character progression on the Xbox One (one of my Xbox Live friends has the game on Steam, so I can play it by sharing his Steam game library), and I will let you know if I ever experience such issues on maximum graphics, as I own a high-end PC.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 09:56, January 16, 2017 (UTC)
Sure thing. And I never had that issue on the PS3, so the PC version is all too common with the aforementioned issues I explained. Even other high-end games I played on PC (e.g. Assetto Corsa, DiRT Rally, Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition) didn't had severe issues like the one I showed you from GTA V. JohnSignature 20:27, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Doodi

Isn't it the time for a range IP block to prevent him from account creation? Since nobody on this wiki has CheckUser rights, it might be worth notifying the VSTF. Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 21:26, January 12, 2017 (UTC)


Maybe tomorrow. Not feeling GTA today to be honest.

Could you enter Chat for a moment? V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01-13-2017, 12:26:10 (EST)

Revised section

What the fuck man, is the info in the edit you just got rid of really necessary? No! We don't need to know about how in real life you can survive, it's a fuckin video game, we don't need to know about the real world! Donkey420 (talk) 20:45, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

First of all, watch your language. Second of all, fix your grammar before you edit pages next time. Feel free to remove the info again, but please watch your grammar and spelling when making edits next time. Monk Talk 22:24, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Vehicle's descriptions

Do we have to re-structure the vehicle's descriptions or something? Because these are what I'm referring to (Chino is fine, but the others are duplicated).

Why? Maybe because of what I did on Faction. Stupid me. lol--BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 02:28, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Right, I think I've sorted it now. Basically, at first, it seemed to be obvious they were referring to the custom counterparts, but since the new releases, everything has been messed up, so I've done my best to go by with this poor consistency by R*; I've added the quotes of all the Benny's cars to the Custom/Upgrade vehicles - to sort out the standard counterparts, I've removed any additional bennys quotes if the page already has a SSASA or LM quote - we only really need 1 quote per vehicle page header. I think that works now. Monk Talk 12:18, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

Check your gmail

Please, check your email, don't erase it straight away, it's important for you. General9913 Talk 00:26, January 22, 2017 (UTC)

Osiris Dispute

Hey Monk. Could you do me a favour and message Aonix with regards to this diff and whether it is correct or not, because I have no clue haha. Cheers. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 11:02, January 23, 2017 (UTC)



V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01-23-2017, 11:54:24 (EST)

YES YES YES YES YES. Bagsy doing popgroups first. xD Monk Talk 16:59, January 23, 2017 (UTC)
Help pls. Amateur in need of assistance. Monk Talk 17:28, January 23, 2017 (UTC)

Benny's Page

I created that Benny's customization page we talked about and put in the tables for all of the vehicles. Now you (and other people) just need to get all of the mods and their prices. WavedSilver3686 17:45, January 23, 2017 (UTC)

I'll do it when I get a chance. Monk Talk 14:54, February 2, 2017 (UTC)


V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 01-24-2017, 12:18:40 (EST)

Regarding broken redirects

Good day Monk, do you by any chance know what is wrong with redirects such as this one and this one? I have analysed them, and they seem to be correctly coded, yet they do not redirect for some reason. Please note that I have also sent this message to "WildBrick142".

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 22:30, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

It's not about changing from lower case to upper case or vice versa. It should be written as #REDIRECT: Article. Hope that helps. ;). - Monk Talk 22:42, January 25, 2017 (UTC)
So are you saying that a colon (:) is required? And thank you for fixing the broken redirects.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:30, January 26, 2017 (UTC)
yes Monk Talk 04:07, January 27, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for clarifying.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 03:54, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Festive Surprise 2016

Yep, it wasn't a DLC or anything big, but what about the previous year's Festive Surprise and Halloween Surprise? They were events and are given a mention. Just curious.

--Tony42898 (Talker - Blogger - Stalker)-- 00:50, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

previous dlcs were content updates. They even have their own packs in the files. Halloween and Xmas, Xmas, xmas604844. Monk Talk 04:07, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

Penetrator Edit

Why my edit was reverted?

The rear of Penetrator is so clearly EB110 with lights from Diablo VT (something that I forgot to write). There is nothing from Saleen S7...

Just to prove my point.

MGgames100 (talk) 20:29, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Apologies. I was reverting another page but opened both revisions at the same time. Accident in my behalf. Feel free to reinstate. Monk Talk 20:35, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Specter's Dashboard

This apparently doesn't match with this in the game, apparently. JohnSignature 21:58, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

That would be because the Specter uses "Race" dials, which cover over these plain dials. Monk Talk 23:05, January 30, 2017 (UTC)
Yep. Methinks R* isn't too talented with vehicle interiors, compared to other driving games. JohnSignature 23:53, January 30, 2017 (UTC)

Vehicle Cargo

I'm going to flesh out the detail - list all possible spawn points for each of the theft types and detail the NPC opponents a bit more, going to list & link all the delivery locations for the 3 types of exports. That sort of thing. Not sure why the mission detail needs to be in triplicate on the mission page, the Ad-Hawk Autos page and the Vehicle Warehouses pages. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate

  • Anything that is seen on Ad-Hawk Autos should be listed on Ad-Hawk Autos
    • The websites are separate, and the name being in common does not denote for a page merge. Merging the pages regarding two entirely separate forms of missions would be complicated and would ruin the article.
  • Anything that is encountered, is an objective, or can be seen/done in Vehicle Cargo missions must be listed on Vehicle Cargo page.
  • Anything that is seen/done in Vehicle Warehouses is to be listed on Vehicle Warehouse page.
Honestly, I really don't see the problem in having separate sections seemingly duplicated on other pages. Main templates can be used for larger written sections (mission walkthroughs all should point towards Vehicle Cargo). Because Ad-Hawk deals with the exporting and containment of vehicles, it's not unusual to list the images of vehicles, the collections of vehicles, and a Main link to exporting vehicles on the page.
Some of the lists, particularly the list of unknown locations, can be extracted from the files, as I'm already working on. Monk Talk 14:53, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not 'that' upset by it, despite my tone on the talk page. Just don't like having to replicate work on multiple pages. Point taken on the website/business page. The warehouses page got cleaned up and is better now, it should only be about the locations and link to the activity. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 19:59, February 2, 2017 (UTC)
Hey Monk, how did you get the 455 × 256 resolution images of the ad-hawk export vehicles? Also, do you think it is worth using screengrabs of the completed collections in the collections table, rather than galleries of individual vehicles?
Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 23:46, February 8, 2017 (UTC)
I got the pics from the files. They're awkwardly stretched as they're pre-UV mapped, so I hae to stretch em manually into 16:9 ratio. Regarding collections, I don't really see a point, as it's essentially duping over the indiv pics. So I think constructing our own "image" with the individuals (a less-complex version of what you essentially tried with Lifeinvader profiles, if you wanna put it that way) is both more creative and less duping. :) Monk Talk 11:31, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
Sweet, I assumed they must have been extracted since there was no way I could get anything larger than about half that size "in game" at 1080 and I don't have a 4k screen to test higher res.

(Reset Indent) As for the collections, I was suggesting "instead of", rather than "as well as" the individual images which are just going to be dupes of the vehicles list images already on the page(s). We could manipulate the screengrabs to fake the collections (easy enough), OR wait to complete the collections to grab an authentic unmodified screenshot (like I did with the easy one above) OR do some formatting with the gallery object to make it replicate the webpage (possibly like the Lifeinvader experiment, sure, that's possible). Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 12:15, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

I think the lifeinvader-style experiment sounds like a better plan tbh mate.
On another note, the photograph-locations that are sent via text: I have them all extracted. Can get them all uploaded. Monk Talk 19:03, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah that would be good, the screenshot of the phone, while it has the clues and details, doesn't really show the image very well.
p.s. as discussed yesterday privately, welcome back. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:15, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
All uploaded. I haven't had all of these before, so I'm not sure if some of the names are correct (going by the really brief name underneath each image on the text). I think a few might be wrong (too specific?). Rename if so :) Monk Talk 20:41, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

New sockpuppet accounts

I'd recommend you block Langesam and Sam Lange1234, two sockpuppet accounts created by Langesam1234 (who's also blocked on this wiki), to prevent him from causing more damage, as seen on the GTA Fanon Wiki. Chris6d (talk) 17:11, February 9, 2017 (UTC)


Hey Monk, sorry to say that I am resigning from my admin post. Thats it. Thanks to everyone who had helped me during this period. I dont want to disclose the reason but I think you already know it. Anyways thanks for all the things you taught me. --MythHunter 007 Talk 16:15, February 2, 2017 (UTC)

Various questions

Good day Monk, I have a number of questions for you regarding former Staff and Administrator tools.

With regards to former Staff, may I ask what happened to Leon? Did he say anything about why he resigned? I also have another Staff question that I would prefer to ask privately in Chat out of respect for the user involved, so please let me know when you are available to join Chat.

With regards to Administrator tools, you mentioned on the Community Noticeboard that you extensively use the SysOp tools to help maintain the wiki, and as an Administrator I feel that I might need a bit of tutoring to make better use of the SysOp tools, so when we are both free would you mind using TeamViewer to show me how to utilize all the available tools. Also, I recall that you said a while ago that you would show me how your bot works, so please do that as well when you can.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 11:25, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

I'm on chat, hop on, I'm free pretty much all day. Monk Talk 15:30, February 3, 2017 (UTC)

Delete images

Hello! I'm not sure how to delete my 2 images. I need a little help please. It's Dalton GTA Online.jpg & Dalton Hanks, 28.jpg

Link's filename 

I tried to reupload it several times, but the outcome still the same. The filename still written as Export and I can't change it. I need help how to change filename. Thanks before. Clubster (talk) 14:40, February 6, 2017 (UTC)

All you need to do is:
  • Find the video on YouTube
  • Copy the URL
  • Go to Special:Videos -> Add Video
  • Paste the URL
  • Done. If you did it correctly, it will automatically name the video after what it was called on YouTube.
It shouldn't require any renaming. Upload everything again and give me the old-named videos I need to delete.
Monk Talk 17:27, February 6, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks & it works. You need to delete this, this, and this one The filenames don't match with the titles. Clubster (talk) 11:52, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Mamba fact?

On the top left... ExportVehicle-GTAO-RemoveTracker. Not a list, just a logo collage. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:39, February 6, 2017 (UTC)


Hey man, sorry to see you're resigning. Hope you'll stick around though, it would be good to catch up sometime soon. Take care. :) Sam Talk 18:03, February 8, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to see that, mate. Best luck! Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 18:54, February 8, 2017 (UTC)
Sad to see you resign yourself like that. Shame I can't fill in the spot for you as I don't have sufficient privileges to go from patroller to admin. :( JohnSignature 19:00, February 8, 2017 (UTC)
""Majority of my projects get taken over, which kind of makes my point here useless, given that what I set out to do is pretty much done before I get started""
Is me or did I find this segment strange and a bit offensive for me? Either case, it's a shame that you resigned from there. You surely did a good job over here and we hope you can continue, at least to finish some of the proposed projects. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 03:59, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
Wasn't aimed at you, buddy. I promise Monk Talk 11:31, February 9, 2017 (UTC)


"Heads up; might be stepping back into staff as I've had a little think about the site's state without all 3 bcrats, since I was the most active."

Want me to move you back to the bcrat position?

pls come back we need you V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 02-09-2017, 10:33:21 (EST)

Would appreciate that, thanks pal. PS I CAN'T HEAR YOU lol Monk Talk 15:41, February 9, 2017 (UTC)
Done! Welcome back! :) V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 02-09-2017, 10:44:35 (EST)
Thanks mate. Appreciated. Monk Talk 15:48, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Good to see your unresignation. Welcome back to the fold. Sam Talk 19:22, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

I am glad to hear that you have decided to return to the Bureaucrat position. However, I would be lying if I did not admit that I am a tad bit disappointed, as I was considering applying for your Bureaucrat position, but since you have undoubtedly been more active than I over the past few weeks, you are probably more qualified for the position at this time. In any case, welcome back! To avoid confusion, I am going to strike through your Community Noticeboard messages regarding your resignation to avoid confusion about whether or not you have resigned.

UPDATE: I have done the edits to the Community Noticeboard.

16:34, February 14, 2017 (UTC)

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 16:09, February 14, 2017 (UTC)


The script was changed. Now you can use a Custom page to edit the notification without having to rely on JS review. You can read more here. Rappy @fandom 21:49, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Happy to hear this. Thank you! Monk Talk 21:51, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Styling of character photos

Can we use the "current appearance" images of characters as the default? Examples include

  • 2001 Claude instead of 1992 Claude
  • 2013 Michael instead of 2004 Michael
  • 2013 Trevor instead of 2004 Trevor

It messes with the chronological order, but it shows the latest appearance. Didn't wanna go changing stuff willy nilly.

Derp Herpington (talk) 23:28, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

Makes sense, yep. Sure. Monk Talk 09:34, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

User issue

Can we get a warning on ths user for nonsense/non-factual edits? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:19, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Of course. Sorry for late reply....I was in dreamland :d
ps you have my full permission to dish out warnings in future. I believe former staff should always have that ability. Monk Talk 09:34, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

GTA SA Special Vehicles

I was trying to revise it, untill you deleted it again. Fooking Rekt (talk) 17:03, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

That was a temporary edit, I was removing the links and adding more links like this, rather than full URL's, but it got deleted when trying to save (since you made an edit before I was able to save it) Fooking Rekt (talk) 17:11, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

Vehicle Quotes

Even the female assistant gives out at least 2 versions for each type of mission. I haven't captured all variants yet. We could put v1 on the main Vehicle Cargo page and v2 on the sub-page?

p.s. this one needs a block. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:18, February 12, 2017 (UTC)

Not saying there aren't 4 different dialogues (2 for male and 2 for female), it's possible. I was going to thinking about using my female slot 2 char with a male assistant at some point, just to test out a couple of theories about "easy" locations in the first few jobs not being offered again once you have done 32 exports.
p.p.s. that was his second block, the first was for a week, shouldn't the 2nd one be longer? :) Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:29, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, definitely split into small strings, I've just been screenshotting the dialogue screen...
to get the transcripts. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:58, February 12, 2017 (UTC)
Only a few lines missing - are any of those the male dialogue you hear? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 02:28, February 13, 2017 (UTC)
OK, tested with Char2 and male assistant (GTA$3.5 million later - good thing offices and warehouses are on sale), definitely different scripts. Some of the male ones will be better as the "main" script on the cargo page but we'll wait until all variations are compiled on my test page to decide which one is "best". Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 02:20, February 14, 2017 (UTC)

Collapsible tables

Is there any way we can get the tables on Benny's Original Motor Works/Customization to collapse? I don't want it to be the longest page in existence. Derp Herpington (talk) 05:12, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

I believe that I can help with that. Have a look at this and tell me if that is what you want to happen to the tables.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:13, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Background

Indeed I am. May I ask what the problem was with the background to begin with? Hopefully when we change the background again for Christmas 2017 the issue will not recur.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:06, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

I see. May I ask what happens if the background is viewed on the two unconventional monitors that you provided as examples?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:20, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

I see. Two final questions: first, what page did you actually input the code to correct the background; second, may I ask why you have responded here instead of on my own Talk page like you normally do when responding to conversations that you initiated?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:34, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting your mistake. Also, the first of the two links that you posted in your message is a redlink which redirects to a file upload page: are you sure that that is the correct page?
UPDATE: I see that the redlink was a typographical error which you have since corrected. Thank you for clearing that up.
19:05, February 15, 2017 (UTC)
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:48, February 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Take a Day Trip

Sounds great! V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 02-17-2017, 11:49:29 (EST)


Just waiting for you and WildBrick to join the chat to resolve things is all. JohnSignature 18:21, February 17, 2017 (UTC)

Help needed

when im try to press the 'add photo' button nothing happens HELP Hamdam (talk) 08:18, February 19, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I believe that the issue is on your end, as the "Add a Photo" button works for me. Apologies that I cannot be of more help. Also, please remember to create a subject header when you start a new conversation.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:27, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

​Delete 2 Images

Hello! I'm not sure how to fully delete Dalton GTA Online.jpg & Dalton Hanks, 28.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epros56 (talkcontribs) 21:13, February 19, 2017 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Hello! I'm not sure how to delete 2 images.. They are Dalton GTA Online.jpg & Dalton Hanks, 28.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epros56 (talkcontribs) 00:13, February 20, 2017 (UTC) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

I have deleted the images. You will need to contact an Administrator or Bureaucrat to have an image deleted. Also, please remember to sign your messages in the future. Thank you.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:13, February 21, 2017 (UTC)


Turns out that each tanker trailer receives their own game names, so in theory we have:

Just saying. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 04:34, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

The RON tanker is called Tanker
The army trailer is called Army Trailer
The Series A Tanker isn't called anything, because gamename "TANKER" doesn't lead to a .gxt2 name - it has no name, same with the freight trailer. Monk Talk 17:40, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Warning

Might as well clear this shit up, since it seems I've been stirring up a mess.

As for the Premier, I noticed that the description for it mentioned that production started in 2004. I also remembered that the Premier first appeared in GTA: SA, which was released in 2004. I just figured it should have been noted.

As for Sandy Shores, I noted it because I live in Lake Elsinore, as mentioned before. The two towns have the following in common:

  • Both are located in the desert
  • Both are small towns on the shore of a heavily-polluted lake.
  • Both are former resort towns.
  • Both are plagued by meth.
  • Both have motorcycle gangs in the area. (If I'm not mistaken, I believe there is a Hell's Angels clubhouse somewhere along Grand Avenue.)
  • Many of the houses are trailers in both towns.
  • Both towns once had an active serial killer living in the area (Sandy Shores had Merle Abrahams, Lake Elsinore had William Suff.)
  • Both have plenty of urban decay present in the area. (Drive along the aforementioned Grand Avenue sometime, tell me just how many run-down buildings you find. There's even an abandoned military school, for fuck's sake.)

Didn't take me long to connect the dots.

Call me "OliCoon" (talk) 22:00, February 20, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the blocking of a user

Good day Monk, may I ask why neither you nor any other Staff member before me blocked this user sooner? The vast majority of his/her edits, bar this one, are blatant acts of vandalism, and s/he should have been blocked a while ago.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 12:09, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

I never noticed. My activity hasn't been great and I've not been tracking all edits. Monk Talk 17:40, February 21, 2017 (UTC)
Not a problem, the user has already been dealt with. I hope that s/he will constructively contribute in the future, as s/he did make one helpful edit (which was the reason why I blocked him/her for one week instead of one month).
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:53, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

Regarding a problem with the Wikia bot

There seems to be a problem with the Wikia bot, as it does not seem to be creating User pages and Talk page welcome messages for new contributors like it should be. Are you aware of this problem?

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:40, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

I'll let Wikia know, as that's their fault - it's definitely a Wikia-wide issue: it doesn't work correctly on my own wiki either. Monk Talk 17:40, February 21, 2017 (UTC)
Good to hear. Do you want me to do it, or would you rather take care of it yourself?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:48, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

Reporting User

Hi Monk. I need to report some guy to you about his images. He add this images to our wiki and put the images to Submersible page and Hydra page. I removed the images from Hydra page then Cam did in Submersible page. Then the user again put his low quality and not corretly named and licensed images into Submersible page. I removed them and i feel that i should report this to you and Administrators. Thanks. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:52, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

Will sort it. Monk Talk 17:40, February 21, 2017 (UTC)
No need, I have already sorted it.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:56, February 22, 2017 (UTC)

A porn-vandal sockpuppet

Prepare for a night of blocks - he knows how to bypass IP block. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:46, February 21, 2017 (UTC)

You can just delete all the image uploads from the 3 accounts - I used "upload new version" just to hide the explicit images, the random screenshots I uploaded aren't actually needed (or licensed or named correctly). Sorry if that made the cleanup more difficult. It's daytime here so I'm keeping an eye out for any more.
Cheers, Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:23, February 21, 2017 (UTC)
All done.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 05:52, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
Yesterday he was claiming to be using a vpn, so I doubt an IP block is going to help. He was online at this time then too. I'm just doing what I can to keep the images off the pages since it's late for you and early for Konan. I know it makes deletion a bit messier but its worth it in case one of you guys are an hour or more away. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:59, February 22, 2017 (UTC)
Do you know of any other usernames that this vandal is using?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 03:10, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
Remember, NSfVs. The last 6 infinite blocks have all been the same user, uploading the same nude images. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 03:45, February 23, 2017 (UTC)
Do not worry, I certainly have no intention of glorifying foolish vandals, especially those who upload pornography, which I greatly dislike in any case. By the way, for Monk's sake, could you please maintain a conversation initiated on his Talk page on the page? I do not mind cross-Talk page conversations, but Monk prefers to have the conversation maintained on his page if it was started there. I have moved the message that you left on my Talk page to this one.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 05:09, February 23, 2017 (UTC)

Vandal user report

This one. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:41, February 25, 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet alert. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:30, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
Are you sure that this user is a Sockpuppet? His/her edits seem fairly innocuous, and I see no evidence of what I would consider vandalism, as his/her edits seem to be good-faith edits.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 12:03, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
@Konan, yes, 100%. You'll note the original account's first couple of edits were innocuous too. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 19:40, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I see your point, in particular with the Blaine County edit. Very well, keep the Sockpuppet blocked. Just to confirm, is this user the "original account" that you were referring to? Also, do you feel that I should delete this poll created by the Sockpuppet?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 19:57, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
Re the Poll: 
I very nearly added a {{delete}} template to it after I got it moved once I figured out who posted it... but it's harmless so I decided not to. Up to you guys whether you want to keep it or not. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:07, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
I will leave the decision to Monk. Monk, if you feel that the poll should be deleted, please feel free to do so. By the way Sean, you did not actually answer my first question, so would you mind answering it?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 20:10, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, although you should be able to tell that from the location of the report. I generally try to avoid mixing messages - so this user and sockpuppet were all contained under one heading on this talk page, not tagged onto the previous reported user's subject. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:21, February 26, 2017 (UTC)
Ah, yes, I see what you have done now. If you ever do it again in the future, I will assume that you are doing what you have done here. Thank you for clarifying.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 20:25, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) No harm with the poll. Will keep. Monk Talk 20:26, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Another alertGTAFan86 (talk) 08:49, February 27, 2017 (UTC)
I strongly disagree with this account being a vandal or Sockpuppet, as there is currently no sign of vandalism from this account, nor any similarity to the edits of the previously blocked accounts. At least for the time being, we should give this user the benefit of the doubt.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 14:27, February 27, 2017 (UTC),
I'm just reported this user because he's infobox are same with GoldenIce32. GTAFan86 (talk) 20:23, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

No, Ravi was just a random, and the userpage infobox is a default template but this one is clearly our new friend. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:33, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Alright, then. GTAFan86 (talk) 13:17, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

GTAForums as we discussed


If you check the history (not sure if you'll need to undelete as Ninja has already removed it), you'll see I put a delete on that one within about a minute of it appearing, yet magically a GTAForums user managed to get a screenshot of it without the delete template. Even with his undo and my redo, there was probably only a couple of minutes when that page didn't have a delete notice on it. Coincidence? I bet not. They are not very subtle are they? I guess we can leave Wildbrick to handle that though? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 11:11, February 27, 2017 (UTC)

I might be wrong in saying that WildBrick a staff member there? (don't quote me on that). If he is, I think we need to let him know about this so this can be sorted out. Monk Talk 14:23, February 27, 2017 (UTC)
Sorry have been busy at work all day today, yes, that's the reason I mentioned Wild. Probably should have posted to him but it was an ongoing discussion we had been having. Incidentally, the page was actually up for quite a few hours, but I'm certain there would have been 2 periods of a minute or less that it didn't have my delete template on it. Wild has stepped in and UT has even agreed with my suspicions. Their moral high ground gets rapidly eroded when it's them doing the pissing on it. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:26, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
He came back and made the page again (with no actual content this time though). I'm sure it will make no difference but you should probably block that account. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 03:51, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

More sockpuppetry

558 blocked this one and hey presto... this one appears. Incidentally, perhaps 558 was a little hasty on the infinite block, unless #13 was also a puppet? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:26, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Took care of him. Regarding the first account, it was already blocked prior to that, and after the block expired he continued to insert false info/nonsense, so I think the infinite block was fine.
Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 11:04, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
I must disagree. A number of the user's edits (such as this and this), while not formatted correctly, appear to be constructive and correct. I believe that the user should be unblocked, given a stern warning about adding unsourced nationality information and creating Sockpuppet accounts, and advice on how to properly format bracketed text in Infoboxes.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 12:34, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Redirect Links

I responded your message in my talk page. Good evening. GTAFan86 (talk) 18:29, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Confirmed vs unconfirmed

"...there will also be all-new blazing fast rides such as the Progen GP1 supercar."
— Rockstar Newswire

So we ignore that? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 06:50, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Supercar is a description, doesn't mean it's the class it's in. Sure, it's more than obvious, but there's no true source to say it couldn't be in Sports. There's been plenty of past vehicles, some given similar descriptions by R*, that later were added to unexpected classes (Insurgent comes to mind). It's better to just wait till it's released - then we can add them all at once, count them up, makes it easier. Besides, it's literally not in the game yet, "Vehicles in GTA V". Monk Talk 08:06, March 3, 2017 (UTC)


hey i see u r a very active member and a staff member i am very much into gta series i want to help this wikia grow i am a new member here i will work here to edit pages some time slot everyday i wanted to ask if i work that way for a long time will i get a flassy logo of my name or a rank whetever to show my dedication.waiting for a reply in anticipation.Rizzygamer (talk) 20:45, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

Hi there! You'd probably need to start showing some dedicated contribution to the wiki, with good faith edits all round, and retain enough activity in order to prove your commitment to the site. You can see our Policies for help around the wiki, our Manual of Style for help with editing inline with this wiki's style, and see our Staff list for more information. Thanks! Monk Talk 21:01, March 3, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Hangouts

I'll se what I can do, buddy. Didn't get much time for it, but don't worry. We'll talk soon. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 04:12, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Chat

Is that chat invite still valid?

#totallynotlate V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 03-10-2017, 08:53:20 (EST)

Requesting for deletion

The titles are not matched with the filename, so they need to be deleted.

  • File:Bail_Bond
  • File:Export
  • File:Achievement-
  • File:Briefcases_Location_Guide
  • File:Export_Trailer
  • File:PS3)
  • File:Achievement--0
  • File:FCR 1000 Custom

Clubster (talk) 10:18, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

Will get to it. Thanks. Monk Talk 16:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
All done. Ps thanks for not linking; genuinely, as it means I don't have to de-link redlinks. Monk Talk 16:24, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll update you if there's more. Clubster (talk) 13:11, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Have my doubts

this user - I don't have the games he's uploading the content for so I can't verify but given that he started out uploading mod content and still isn't licencing any of his uploads (Cam has been doing it for him), I think we need to verify that it's all legit content before he goes too far. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 12:19, March 11, 2017 (UTC)

As discussed in chat

Bots? Search this page (after changing namespace to user pages only) for "Dalton" to get the idea. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 23:28, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Likely. I might contact Wikia. Monk Talk 16:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
I contacted Wikia about this. They replied, and stated it is both likely and incoincidental that the recent increase in account creations began at around the same time they revived an error on the GTA Wikia app. Apparently its likely the account creations are due to the fixes they made. I still don't 100% support this, however, but they also said they're thinking of removing the account creation log from recent changes in an upcoming wikia patch (doesn't solve the problem, only patches over it, but hey ho.) Monk Talk 22:38, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
The one I highlighted is likely just an unsophisticated sockpuppet (see his message on Sam's wall). But I still suspect whatever fix they did actually opened up their user creation process to bot abuse. I haven't looked at any other wikias to see if they are seeing the same. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 23:04, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Reference list format change

Good day Monk, if you are agreeable to the change, could you please make your bot replace all instances of <references/> and <references /> with this template? It will make the reference list text smaller and allow especially long reference lists to easily be sorted into two or three columns. The same format is used on Wikipedia.

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 08:20, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Will get straight to it. Been a while since I did a bot job. Monk Talk 16:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
The bot is ready, however I'm having an internet issue so going to wait till I gain some stability (few hours). Monk Talk 16:30, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
All done! Fun fact: only 350 pages out of all 11,000 have actual reference lists. This number really aught to be above 1000. Something needs to be done about references, especially on main pages such as game pages themselves - there isn't enough. Monk Talk 19:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I see your point. The only problem is that I am not particularly good at finding references on the Internet unless I already have an idea of where to look, but I will see what I can do about sourcing them nonetheless. By the way, could you please respond to my other message? Thank you.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 14:35, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
Beta Releases are pages that desperately need more sources - beta sources usually include things from screenshots, but also from trailers - looking through game trailers and matching up beta statements on those pages to trailer content (look closely!) is a good way of justifying and citing beta information. I usually include a link to the trailer, a time, and a screenshot. Monk Talk 14:40, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the advice. By the way, there seems to be an issue with the "Reflist" template making the reference list small: for some reason, the reference list text is not changing size and remains the default size. I have analyzed the source code of the template, but it seems to be in order with no errors. I copied the code from the equivalent template on the Harry Potter Wiki, where the template does actually work. Could you please look into the issue when you have the time?
UPDATE: With assistance from Sean, I have corrected the error, which was due to missing CSS code. Thank you anyway.
15:03, March 28, 2017 (UTC)
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 15:12, March 16, 2017 (UTC)


You better be block him 3 days because of his actions. GTAFan86 (talk) 14:00, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Well for a start, it would help if the warnings were for the correct thing - inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages isn't edit warring... but I agree he needs a serious warning. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:09, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Update unlocks

I was a bit underwhelmed last night with the lack of content but discovering this has made me a bit happier. The forced multiplayer of the Heists update to unlock content turned me right off the game. I have done them on Playstation but unlocked nothing on PC. Now I can add a Kuruma to my ricer garage!

NB, they have also hinted the Duke o Death in online... 

"Look for even more updates coming to GTA Online in the weeks ahead, including additions to the Creator like new Stunt Race props and the ability to concoct your own Special Vehicle Races for the Rocket Voltic, Ruiner 2000, and Blazer Aqua. Plus crazy new modes like Resurrection and Top Down, as well as a collection of oft-requested classic GTA rides - including one particularly MORBID MUSCLE CAR."
— -Newswire

Sweet. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:09, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Wow, I'm excited. It's probable the long awaited APC and Hunter will make a return for the upcoming summers update too. Monk Talk 22:11, March 14, 2017 (UTC)
Just out of curiosity, does this new update add only new vehicles, or does it add anything else? I have not played Grand Theft Auto Online for some time, so I am not particularly up to speed on the current content. By the way Monk, do you still have your police uniform?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 17:46, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
This new update adds only one new vehicle, but will later add three more new vehicles, two of which are basically recreations of classic cars from GTA San Andreas and GTA III (but still named differently, with Classic names). Monk Talk 14:40, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for answering. However, you seem to have missed my last question: do you still have your police uniform on GTA Online?
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 15:21, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
I do, yes. Monk Talk 16:43, March 16, 2017 (UTC)
That is good to hear. I have not had the chance yet to check the status of my own police uniform, but seeing as I have already lost it thrice in the past, I am sincerely hoping that I still have mine as well.
TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 18:36, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Lost MC Clubhouse

Just curious. Why ? GTAFan86 (talk) 16:31, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

What? Monk Talk 16:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Hangouts

The last conversation was rather "mixed feeling" because didn't get a full opportunity to chat at all. I'll try to consider this one as a possibility if things are good over here. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 05:03, March 15, 2017 (UTC)


Just wanted to ask. How can i remove a category from page ? For example a false category. You will make me happy if you answer. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:15, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Edit in classic -> source editor, and go to the bottom and remove the category, or use the category section on the right panel in classic editor to remove categories. You should be using classic editor most of the time, as I've noticed that some of your edits in visual editor have been causing formatting errors, which mess up spacing and lists. Monk Talk 16:19, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for answer. I just now learned that visual editor causing formatting problems. GTAFan86 (talk) 16:23, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Broughy testing isn't as accurate as described

Just read your post about broughy1322 testing methods and the accuracy of his tests. I have have to say I recreated his speed test run and the distance between checkpoint 4 and his finish wasn't 2.81 mile as specifed, in fact it was way further than shown in picture.

All this leads me to believe that whilst nothing will be 100% accurate you should at least be honest and as accurate as you can possibly be.Ghostx81 (talk) 21:31, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

I've always said it; Broughy's method might be solid and a great way to gain speeds, but there are numerous things wrong with it. Two spring to mind, one you already pointed out
  • I'm really unsure how he can be certain these distances are true to what he thinks they are, especially using the creator; placing checkpoints gives LOTS of leeway between values, you can sometimes move a checkpoint a full block and still retain the same distance from the start/the previous checkpoint.
  • How do we know that the time and distance in the game pair up to give a proper result? We're using two different things; a given distance supplied according to the game's measurements system, and then real life time - although it seems stupid, these are two completely different sources, what about in-game time? How do we know these two things are actually usable in finding speeds?
We cannot use inaccurate data for the wiki - it's as simple as that, and given I have run my tests myself, and gained different results, as with many others who attempt to replicate his tests in the exact same manner, its impossible to know what is correct - if something is able to be accurate, it should be repeatable and thus be done by anyone who has followed exactly as he does. Given we cannot do exactly what he does because of the leeway of distances (as already mentioned), its therefore uncertain that his data can be trusted between each vehicle, and the vehicles can consequently not be compared. The only reliable and certain sources of data we now have in the game are the raw file data (which does not completely reflect in-game performance, as drag/driving force/mass/etc come into play, and first person speedometers (again, these speeds are actually wrong and do not reflect actual performance, but its still data that is repeatable, easy to obtain, easy to record, and consistent. Monk Talk 21:49, March 17, 2017 (UTC)

Repeat offender

This one is back doing the same garbage edits, despite the warning. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:06, March 18, 2017 (UTC)

Requesting for deletion (update)

Some aren't match with the title and some are uploaded twice or more:

  • File:Export_Update_-_Pfister_Comet_Retro_Custom
  • File:Export_-_Special_Vehicle_Work_-1_-_Ramp_Buggy_Mission_(Escape_Escort)
  • File:Export_-_Special_Vehicle_Work_-3_-_Blazer_Aqua_Mission_(Cleanup_Op)
  • File:Export_-_Special_Vehicle_Work_-2_-_MTL_Wastelander_Mission_(Breakdown_Recovery)
  • File:Dewbauchee_Specter_Custom
  • File:Export_Update_-All_DLC_Contents-
  • File:Hidden_Interiors_Universe
  • File:Grand_Theft_Auto_San_Andreas_(PS2)_How_to_explore_Liberty_City_(Cheat_Disc)
  • File:Momma%27s_Boy_86%25_Walkthrough
  • File:Mission_Walkthrough_Part_1
  • File:Bigfoot_Vs_Beast._The_Beast
  • File:GTA_Online_Stunt_-_Rally

And we don't need all these garbages:

  • File:Can%27t_Get_Enough_(feat._Pitbull)_-_Becky_G
  • File:Beyoncé_-_Sorry
  • File:FIFA_17_-_FOOTBALL_HAS_CHANGED_-_Reveal_Trailer
  • File:Chinese_Military_Parade_Hell_March_2009_-_HD
  • File:ENODO_present_The_Urban_Life_System
  • File:Going_to_the_store
  • File:Red_Dead_Redemption_Undead_Nightmare_-_Launch_Trailer
  • File:RDR_UNDEAD_NIGHTMARE_-_Hunting_Sasquatch_-_Birth_of_the_Conservation_Movement
  • File:Tractors_in_trouble

I'll update you again if there is more. Clubster (talk) 06:11, March 18, 2017 (UTC)


Hey, could the bot change all "|racetype = Stunt Race" to "|racetype=StuntRace" ? Thanks. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 03-18-2017, 12:00:14 (EST)

Done. Apparently there were only 2 haha Monk Talk 17:12, March 18, 2017 (UTC)
Strange. Some pages did not change. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 03-18-2017, 12:18:21 (EST)
That would be because they're not in the Stunt Race category. Monk Talk 16:21, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Protect profile request

How can i protect my profile like Tom's ? If i can't, can you do it for me as a favor ? Because, some sockpuppet edited my profile as "I'm gay." and, "The faggot who's in love with his father". That's just request. Thank you :) GTAFan86 (talk) 12:13, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

That's what i'm talking about. GTAFan86 (talk) 12:16, March 20, 2017 (UTC)
Monk ? Hello? GTAFan86 (talk) 15:57, March 20, 2017 (UTC)


Adding false info to character infoboxes. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 18:48, March 23, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Speed testing

Yeah, we talked about this long ago. There seems to be an imaginary border between LS and Blaine County that changes your top speed. Still don't know the co-ordinates or why it happens. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 03-25-2017, 09:14:42 (EST)

Stock spoilers for new cars

Hey, Monk. Is it cool if you get a rear quarter view of the new cars (excluding GP1) with their respective stock spoilers? Would be useful to add as they come installed from Legendary Motorsport. Thanks Derp Herpington (talk) 04:09, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

Will sort something out, although the modifications will (eventually) be sorted out anyway. Monk Talk

Deleting garbage/uploaded twice or more videos

  • File:Shortest_Video_on_Youtube
  • File:Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_-_The_Cousin%27s_Bellic
  • File:GTA_5_-_GTA_5_Release_Date_-_Sooner_Than_You_Think!
  • File:GTA_IV_Mission_14_-_Crime_and_Punishment
  • File:Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_-_Uncle_Vlad
  • File:GTA_IV_Pedestrian_Quotes_Fast_Food_Clerks-0
  • File:Rub_Out_-_GTA_Vice_City_-_Playthrough_(Part_24)-0
  • File:Rub_Out_-_GTA_Vice_City_-_Playthrough_(Part_24)-1
  • File:Rub_Out_-_GTA_Vice_City_-_Playthrough_(Part_24)-2
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_Walkthrough_-_Mission_4_-_Back_Alley_Brawl_(HD)-1
  • File:Dirty_Lickin%27s_-_GTA_Vice_City_-_Playthrough_(Part_27)-0
  • File:Bike_Salesman_-_GTA_Liberty_City_Stories_Side-Mission
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_Walkthrough_-_Mission_2_-_An_Old_Friend_(HD)-1
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_Walkthrough_-_Mission_2_-_An_Old_Friend_(HD)-0
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_iPad_Walkthrough_-_Mission_2_-_An_Old_Friend-0
  • File:Worldvision_Enterprises,_Inc._(Spelling_Byline)
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_Walkthrough_-_Mission_61_-_Cap_the_Collector_(HD)-0
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_-_Walkthrough_-_Mission_61_-_Cap_the_Collector_(HD)-1
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_Tommy_Vercetti_Quotes_Part_2_2-0
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_Tommy_Vercetti_Quotes_Part_2_2-1
  • File:GTA_San_Andreas_%22The_Introduction%22_Official_Trailer-0
  • File:GTA_Vice_City_Tommy_Vercetti_Quotes_Part_1_2-0

I've also reported this to the other bureaucrats. Clubster (talk) 09:08, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

All gone. Monk Talk 16:21, March 27, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Monk. I'll update you and other bureaucrats if I find some more. Sorry if it is really disturbing you. Clubster (talk) 08:48, March 28, 2017 (UTC) 

Warning ignored

This one. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 02:03, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

Sorted. Monk Talk 16:21, March 27, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Current Design Galleries

I'll see what I can do, even though I won't be editing vehicle pages for a while. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 00:59, March 29, 2017 (UTC)

Jobs for your bot

Good day Monk, could you please, if possible, make your bot add the "Navboxes" template (with the title= parameter as "Navigation") to all articles that have more than one Navbox (unless, of course, the template is already present on the page)?

TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 13:03, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

I will when I get a chance :) Monk Talk 20:42, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Closure of Request for Promotion

Good day, please close the Request for promotion of Camilo Flores and promote him. This message was sent to all Bureaucrats. TAlim 1994 - Konan T-A Lim 林道安 (talk | contributions) 04:05, March 31, 2017 (UTC)

We have to go back

How long has it been? A year? Or two? I don't even know, I wasn't counting. What I know, though, is that we have to go back. This whole "separate name = separate page" thing is not working out. It's a mess. It'd be better to have all vehicle variants documented in one page rather than separate ones, now that I look back on it. If ya wanna get started on that now, just let me know.

Besides that, I quit. Screw this place. I lost interest in it, and there's nothing for me to do here anymore. Gonna let someone else have the rights (maybe that new guy in RfP?) rather than leaving myself hog the spot. I don't edit that much, if at all, anymore so that could be the reason as well. Anyway, I'm out. Been a fun ride. Goodbye!

V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 04-01-2017, 08:54:13 (EDT)

OOOOOOOH YOU CHEEKY BASTARD HAHAHA. You had me there. Fucking love ya <3 Monk Talk 13:09, April 1, 2017 (UTC)
That was much better than the RFP. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 19:50, April 1, 2017 (UTC)

Infobox country

I'll try. I suppose some things won't really work out with the PI layout (like the flag/coat of arms image placement), but it should get most of the stuff right. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 19:11, April 2, 2017 (UTC)

Whew, done. God knows why this template was so complicated in the first place. I eliminated a lot of fields that remained unused and improved some stuff. Now it's working well. Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 20:08, April 2, 2017 (UTC)


Still doing it. Time for a 1st block I think? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:59, April 5, 2017 (UTC)

Done. Sam Talk 23:01, April 5, 2017 (UTC)


Hello Monkeypolice188, I'm helping the PT GTA Wiki to fix it's theme and I would like to know if you utilize the Europe Infobox Theme on your community.

Lincoln Speak! 16:10, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hey there! No, the GTA Wiki doesn't use this theme. Do you require assistance with something? Monk Talk 16:34, April 7, 2017 (UTC)


Greetings. Do i need add category "Gangsters" to this pages? Kuzyalu (talk) 16:51, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

No. Monk Talk 18:50, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Pegassi rollback

I was rolling back the French language wp link, didn't actually notice the model change from my phone :) Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:44, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

unrelated page

Hi monk, there is a page by name Nikos Papagiannidis, that isn't related to the gta franchise. can you delete it, pls? —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Sorted Monk Talk 18:50, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Strange

Not sure what's going on there. It should work as specified.

Particle effect files are in x64d > data > effects V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 04-16-2017, 05:34:51 (EDT)

RE: Voodoo

Hey, buddy. I'm fine. And you?

Well, it was more by the fact it was not very sedan at all. Or because I stick with the basic idea of "2 doors equals coupé & 4 door equals sedan". But oh well, Good thing I was not misinterpretating the police chatter :P --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 00:53, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Downloadable content on GTA ONLINE page far better then GTA V page.

Monk, I have question for you. You know about the Grand Theft Auto V page, which have a tag on one content that is under construction, can I remove that tag? Because, I was compared that content, with simililar content on Grand Theft Auto:Online page, and I can see that content about Downloadable Content (DLC), is far better doned on Grand Theft Auto:Online page, then on the original Grand Theft Auto V. Soooo.... can I remove the tag? I hope you will answer me.

MIHAJLO150 (talk) 18:23, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Monk Talk 18:40, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Someone needs a holiday

I tried to be nice but he didn't get the hint. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 12:12, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

Sorted. Lol. Monk Talk 18:31, April 19, 2017 (UTC)

London 1961's Image

The image for the GTA: London 1961 page is broken for me and I can't find where to edit the infobox. Douglasrampazo (Talk) 20:05, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Weapon info

Interesting. It's pretty much what I need, buddy.

Maybe I should make changes to the infobox and the flags template, so we can have those (if there's availability for weapon flags in a template that is mostly dedicated to vehicle flags :P). No worries, appreciate the fact you got a useful file. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 19:36, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

That's all of what I can find for Weapon data anyway. Everything else is just anim files, textures, models and a few spawns. Only make changes if its worth it - i.e, avoid useless data :p Monk Talk 20:07, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) BTW, is the "Minigun" actually the Annihilator's weapons? There's no clear indication about it being a vehicle weapon but, assuming TBOGT weapon info has the respective vehicle weapons (Buzzard's minigun/rockets and APC cannon), I think they are. It possibly assigns the "Override Minigun" as the Annihilator's weapons in EFLC (the explosive variant), but I have no idea about a "Deagle with new model" (maybe a Combat Pistol with changed design?). Probably. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 02:53, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Mission Car Colors

Ah, I see it.

Maybe the "locals" will refer to the vehicle it's supposed to spawn in the script. Many parameters regarding vehicle sets leads to a particular "local", which is apparently the CogCabrio we're talking about.

BTW, what's with the last bit? --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 22:08, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

NPC Scripted spawns in Cargo missions

Yes, I have seen the lime green (FnF) Sultan RS :) They are the chase crew in the race bet events. Interesting entries in the scripts though. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:44, April 25, 2017 (UTC)

Been giving thought to the blue Sultan RS... I wonder if it's because the colour is a standard spawn colour, nothing "special"? As for the other vehicles...
  • hexer (no idea?) - unseen
  • frogger (no idea?) - stunt scene camera crew?
  • mule (no idea?) - unseen but haven't looked for it.
  • benson (no idea?) - unseen but haven't looked for it.
  • valkyrie (no idea?) - unseen
  • marquis (no idea?) - unseen - may be scripted to always appear near the tugs on the heist crew jobs but unnoticed?
  • buccaneer2 (confirmed, generic pursuit) - Car Meets
  • paradise (no idea?) - Point To Point race bet: always parked at finish
  • elegy2 (no idea?) - Car Meets? Maybe it was supposed to have been used for Race Bet chasers in a FnF livery, would have been better than the Sultan?
  • kuruma (confirmed) - likes spawning with futos - always in any Triad Tail missions as tail target and chasers
  • futo (confirmed) - likes spawning with kurumas - also car meet chasers with Dominators
  • comet2 (seen it somewhere?) - apparently likes spawning with kurumas - unseen, maybe Car Meets?
  • dominator (confirmed, spawns on tug floats) - likes spawning with tug and cargobob - also chaser in Car Meets
A couple of those are still unaccounted for, maybe some cut events/scripts. i.e. maybe Valkyrie was originally used instead of Buzzard on the Cargobob chase or instead of the Super Volito Carbons? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:29, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Ermm

Ermmm See Tempesta page - If you're going to reference a Lotus influence (which is very much a stretch IMO), reference the right Lotus. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 07:20, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Erm, first of all, I simply reverted edits, and did not add Lotus Elan to the Tempesta page.
Second of all, perhaps you could do a little more research and history check yourself - I added Esprit to the Tempesta page because THAT'S what it's headlights/rear end is based on. It takes little to nothing from the Elan's new concept - The 2013 Elan and Esprit are two completely different concepts - Elan - Esprit. The entire top-rear fascia is from the Esprit. Compare the hood vents, rear window and B pillars. The headlight shape also comes from the Esprit, while the lamps themselves seemingly come from the Elan - in fact quite a lot of the front draws inspiration from the Esprit, especially the hood line in connection with the front bumper. Monk Talk 11:36, May 1, 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps you should be the one that needs to check edits closer. The Elan concept has been on the Tempesta page (replacing the Esprit concept) with no "correction" for months, that is what I was "correcting" on the Pegassi page (in fact removing the Lotus reference as, IMO, it is not a primary design influence as we have ruled the entries on the manufacturer pages should reflect). I had not looked too closely into who changed the Tempesta page to the Elan but checked images of both and could see the minor similarities so did not revert it on the Tempesta page. I see you have now corrected both pages back to the Esprit which I have no problem with, as long as the two pages match. :) Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:51, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

Beta GTA V

Hey, you reverted my edits in Beta Releases in Grand Theft Auto V and Online and I frankly don't see why. I wrote "Michael De Santa" because "Michael" leads to the disambiguation page. I replaced "a" with "an" because that's simply the write grammar. Can you please tell me why you deleted it?

Nowherebuthere (talk) 17:07, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

You broke the formatting of half the sounds on the page. Take a look. You can redo your edit, but to avoid breaking things unexpectedly, avoid using the dreaded Visual Editor and edit by clicking the arrow next to "Edit", and selecting the "Classic Editor". From here you can optionally navigate to the "Source" mode within the editing pane for source code editing - either method is fine, but avoid using the Visual Editor, which automatically loads when clicking "Edit" - Blame Fandom. Monk Talk 17:13, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Nowherebuthere (talk) 17:34, May 2, 2017 (UTC)


Only just noticed, I've been trying to keep an eye on it for a while and, well, I missed it... Congratulations on reaching 30,000 edits on the GTA Wiki! You're like the second highest editor in the wiki's history and at this rate you'll be number one in no time! I think number 1 is currently (somehow) Cloud. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 18:54, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Completely forgot haha. And yeah, CloudKit's 40k (although he didn't exactly edit, just waste time with links lmao). Although he's blocked. Thanks man. :) Monk Talk 19:08, May 2, 2017 (UTC)


I'd like to apologize for my edit to the Humane Raid - Key Codes page. I'm sorry it wasn't good enough, or at least not worded well enough to be deemed worthy to stay on the page. Call me, Mr. Nirvana (talk) 02:47, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE: .gxt2

SA doesn't have gxt2. It has gxt :p But no, the trailers don't have names. They are defined as having their own name, but there are no strings in the gxt file. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 05-15-2017, 11:42:06 (EDT)

RE: Vehicle Interiors Disappearing from OpenIV

patchday7ng has stuff from Lowriders 1 V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 05-19-2017, 06:05:57 (EDT)

2nd block time

Seriously, I think there has been two, maybe three legitimate edits. And now the "Johnson syndicate" garbage? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:44, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Sorted. Sam Talk 22:57, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Weapon Project

Nothing. It works fine. Why? Is somebody trying to get rid off the idea? Did someone put the wrong code in a parameter of a template? Is there any missing pages over there?

Actually, I would like to know the third one, because I have no idea which pages are still using the old template.

BTW, What competition? I'm not competing with anyone, just being efficient. (Maybe I over-exceeded the original schedule of just GTA IV cars. My bad.)

Fine. You can ask me to stop with this vehicle idea, but first, I need what I need the most. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 18:54, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

I can't chat at the moment. I have things to do here. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 19:12, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Wut. What problem? I suppose whatever project is wrong and must be reworked again (as usual). And whatever you're gonna tell is nothing compared to what I have to tell to you XD. (Hint: Have you ever heard of "lifespan"?) --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 01:26, May 22, 2017 (UTC)
Special Releases? --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 02:16, May 23, 2017 (UTC)


Should this images deleted added by Arda Işgın? Here the image links: 1 and 2. Have a good day. GTAFan86 (talk) 10:10, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

No. I added a delete template to it when he uploaded it but removed it as soon as he used it on his user page. Fan fiction of this nature is still permitted in the user namespacw (unfortunately). Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 10:36, May 22, 2017 (UTC)
I didn't notice that :( Anyway, this topic's done. GTAFan86 (talk) 15:39, May 22, 2017 (UTC)


I'm done for the morning - going to be a busy day at work :( Looks like a new page needed for the Unnamed Assault Rifle too. The screenshot doesn't look like any existing weapon. Good spotting by Cam on the half-track on that truck. Cannot un-see it now that he's pointed in out. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:05, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Half-Track Truck


Sorry for bother you with all the truck thing. Just I hope we are pointing out the correct vehicle after all (and being possibly a Duneloader variant :P) --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 23:13, May 25, 2017 (UTC)


Need help, please come in chat quick...--MythHunter 007 Talk 10:27, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Touchdown Rental Shuttle Bus

Hey Monk, question for the expert: is the Touchdown variant of the Rental Shuttle Bus very rare to find in enhanced version? Does it even spawn at all? I've been trying to find one to get a better image for the wiki but I only find Escalera variants every time I go to the airport. Either I'm really unlucky or the vehicle rarely spawns in enhanced version :) I was wondering if you noticed this as well, and if it's true maybe it should be mentioned in the page. DocVinewood (talk) 15:06, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Well, good spot man!
This got me really confused. I went as far to spawn loads of them in the game, and nope, nothing. So I went into the files. And guess what? The Touchdown variant, doesn't exist anymore. In the third next-gen patch of the game, Rockstar removed the touchdown livery from its texture files. So, yeah, feel free to note that. Monk Talk 15:39, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
Heh, I suspected something like that. Thanks for checking out so quickly. DocVinewood (talk) 15:49, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
No problem. Since I can tell the game to ignore this patch, I'll get some better pics of it - come to think of it, this explains why I only got the Escalera pics when I did service vehicles. Monk Talk 15:53, June 2, 2017 (UTC)
And for reference, this patch was timestamped on 23/10/2014 12:26:36, so just 1 month before the initial enhanced version release. Monk Talk 15:55, June 2, 2017 (UTC)

Can we say bye bye this guy. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 00:18, June 3, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Weapon Stats

weapons.meta has weapon infos, that's correct.

And DLC weapons are separated because logic. Or it just makes it easier to manage, I dunno. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 06-04-2017, 07:20:08 (EDT)

Military Dune Buggy question!

Out of wild curiosity, how come you deleted the photo's I uploaded of the Military Buggy, despite them not being duplicates and being accepted by another mod on the site? 

Not that it annoyed me, just curious is all. GTADaryl (talk) 22:27, June 8, 2017 (UTC) Daryl D. 

Hey there. I deleted them because they were poorly named - describing the picture is not the sole way to name a file. The policy shows how files should be named. Some of your pictures were duplicates, through batch. Thanks. Monk Talk 22:35, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
Monk, as per Daryl's talk page, I was working through with him to get his images compliant. Only 1 (the shot inside the rear of the MOC) was a duplicate. After he licenced them I was going to rename them. I had to go to sleep though. I was a bit annoyed this morning to find them deleted.
Unfortunately Daryl, you did muck up the licencing instructions, and added the licence template to the article, not your image. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:38, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, apologies. I was going to rename them but was in a rush, came back to read the talk pages, was about to restore the files by which time one had been reuploaed. Sorry about that. Monk Talk 22:58, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
I'll make sure to keep all of this in mind if I have other photo's to upload. I may take some for uploading once the update drops. If another user doesn't beat me to it, of course. Sorry about mucking it up though. I wasn't entirely sure where it went, but i'll look around for the instructions again. - EDIT: I uploaded another photo to the Military Dune Buggy page, I think I got the licencing stuff correct this time? GTADaryl (talk) 21:26, June 9, 2017 (UTC) 
You still need to get the naming right - including the gametitle "GTAO" in the picture is essential, and also, images of modified vehicles are not accepted as per the Vehicle MOS. Thanks. Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Warning ignored

Needs a block. Has already been blocked from another wiki for the same sort of nonsense. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 11:02, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Sorted. Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

So... yeah.

Take a look a this. Or just launch OpenIV and download the update now. V-michael-trunk-miniV-franklin-trunk-miniV-trevor-trunk-mini 06-14-2017, 04:23:45 (EDT)

OpenIV will still function though, right? Even after future GTAO updates? Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Don't think it will, unfortunately. Take-Two catches anyone using Open IV, or any other mod-related programs, and you can say good-bye to your progress in GTA Online as they will ban their consumers on sight for using any modded programs, even for single player use. The dark age of GTA has begun. JohnSignature 17:56, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
It still functions, albeit with a "risk" that lawyers will come to your door and take you to court (seriously, who believes in this crap). Either way, this is really sad news. I hope OpenIV can at least disable the "Edit" mode feature and leave it at that, so the wiki still gets the information we need. Monk Talk 19:25, June 15, 2017 (UTC)
Yep. I'd still play GTA Online, but I sure as hell am not letting Take-Two force me to buy Shark Cards. Also, GTA V's review on PC is getting tanked hard. JohnSignature 20:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Sock Block

You were right the first time. jr obv a puppet of Joe. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:10, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

What's made you change your mind about the date trivia? Doesn't alter the fact that the user is using a sockpuppet account to bypass the ban for removing it, but if you are going to accept that the edit "war" was valid, then is CupOfMorningJoe's block invalid now too? Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:16, June 14, 2017 (UTC)
Idk fella. I never changed my mind, just gave in. Same reason with the block. He contacted me offsite telling me he wasn't a sock and I just gave in again. I don't feel I'm as good at my job as I used to be anymore, considering resignation again. (for real this time) Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Gunrunning Vehicles

Hello Monk, just wanted to tell you that I added the vehicles to their manufactures. Try seeing my past contributions. So just asking if I can add new vehicles to their manufactures. Do you think it's okay? JEEP-CHEROKEE (talk) 06:59, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Good good. Make sure they comform the standards of other vehicles on the manufacturing list (i.e, with the notes section dedicated to the DLC they were added in (gunrunning), and the caption, infobox mage, are all used correctly. Thanks. Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Videos for Gunrunning Missions

Is it also okay if I can add videos for all gunrunning missions and stuff? JEEP-CHEROKEE (talk) 07:34, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

As long as they are by GTASeriesVideos, that's fine. Monk Talk 12:01, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Airport Bus

Yeah, it still exists. I'll try to get one eventually but I still have other images to upload so it won't be soon. Vehicle images are your speciality, you probably could get better ones and faster, in any case (or Wildbrick) :p DocVinewood (talk) 09:43, June 15, 2017 (UTC)


Wait. What? Is that real?

Alright. If you said that, I guess I can do that, but there are still a few missing ones from there (between Haloween and Gunrunning). Do I have to store the other files, including those from IV? --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 21:05, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

Alright. That looks kinda easy.
Can't believe what just happened there. And I though modding was fine as long as it is SP-only. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 21:59, June 15, 2017 (UTC)

2017 Online

Yeah, NP, that user always needs grammar fixes. I did some when I restored it but am sick at the moment so may have missed some. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 21:20, June 15, 2017 (UTC)


Man. I almost forgot that, before continuing to the rest of the weapons, what's the correct measurement of range? Values doesn't seem to have any meaning if they don't have either "meters" or "feet" on it (like how vehicle speed is appropiately measured in km/h and mph) and that would cause some confusion. I assume file data follows the metric system, right? --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 00:29, June 16, 2017 (UTC)

BTW, I've left a discussion here if the MK II weapons should be separated. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 01:02, June 16, 2017 (UTC)
Given the fact the files are almost all in metric, I'd expect it was meters. Monk Talk 12:31, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Check edit

Can you check this one? I'm not on my PC at the moment (watching LeMans 24hrs)  but he has a history of changing this sort of thing invalidly. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 09:12, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Fan-fiction

Hey! No worries, I certainly plan on contributing edits in the community soon as well as finish my little "fan-fiction"! :)

Wooshie32 (talk) 09:40, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Los Desperados

Hi admin, I have a problem need you help: The mission Los Desperados' script has an incorrect: Sunny is the one says "gonna cut those cacos" not Hazer. You can view it and see, Hazer does not speaks until shouts with others "Hasta la muerte!". May you edit this script?

NguyenAnhLam (talk) 13:16, June 18, 2017 (UTC)


Well, assuming weapons like the APC Cannon and SAM turrets will have separated assets for the ammos and they also use their own flags for both "Ammo" and "Projectile", it'd be rather confusing to put these together, unless it is still able to sort these appropiately, aside from the fact it could "separate" vehicle flags from weapon flags. At least this is what I think. --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 18:46, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

It just looks odd. Having "TBOGT", "GTA Online", and then "Ammo" for example. That's why I initially added centered "APC", "Missile" and "Projectile" sections within the GTA Online expand. Monk Talk 18:59, June 20, 2017 (UTC)
It's because I was unaware of the change you made (and partially because the weapon data for the GTA Online APC is incomplete). My bad :P --BodyArmor-GTACW-Android SWAT Cam F VehicleWeapon-GTACW-Android Detonator-GTACW-Android Crate-GTACW-Android 19:05, June 20, 2017 (UTC)

What is this?

Is this thing real or fake XD? Just made a random search in the Spanish wiki and ended up seeing this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camilo Flores (talkcontribs) Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

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