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Hey, what did I do wrong here? The site didn't give me much detail, if this is on the Victor Vance page, I stated quite clearly that was not to taken as any form of canon and it was very much a fan theory. This wiki is FULL of those, I didn't mean to be misleading or anything. Just let me know so I know what not to do in the future. {{unsigned|FullStateFeedback|2018-08-11 15:53:37}}
 
Hey, what did I do wrong here? The site didn't give me much detail, if this is on the Victor Vance page, I stated quite clearly that was not to taken as any form of canon and it was very much a fan theory. This wiki is FULL of those, I didn't mean to be misleading or anything. Just let me know so I know what not to do in the future. {{unsigned|FullStateFeedback|2018-08-11 15:53:37}}
 
:Answered quite clearly by the warning on your talk page. Read the policies. <font size="4" color="#1589FF" face="Arial">Smurfy:</font> <font size="1" face="Arial">[[User:Kiwismurf|illuminate]] - [[User talk:Kiwismurf|communicate]] - [[Special:Contributions/Kiwismurf|spectate]]</font> 22:21, August 11, 2018 (UTC)
 
:Answered quite clearly by the warning on your talk page. Read the policies. <font size="4" color="#1589FF" face="Arial">Smurfy:</font> <font size="1" face="Arial">[[User:Kiwismurf|illuminate]] - [[User talk:Kiwismurf|communicate]] - [[Special:Contributions/Kiwismurf|spectate]]</font> 22:21, August 11, 2018 (UTC)
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It's a slippery slop on the title as I looked. I admittedly didn't do much research on the title before hand and it turns out the source I looked at that referred to the "Grand Theft Auto" being the official name from promotional material as such appears to be misinformed. Rockstar does refer to it as ''Advance'' a few times on its website you mentioned. Other sites from around the same time refer to it as ''Advance'' as well, while IGN and some online stores refer to it as simply ''Grand Theft Auto''. IGN, Metacritic and the official Wikipedia page for the game still refer to it as ''Grand Theft Auto'' as well. I'd like to reach a compromise to mention "also known as simply ''Grand Theft Auto''." on the article.
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Lamar

Just curious why my edit was reverted when it’s a proven fact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Viglietti (talkcontribs) 2018-07-01 04:12:32 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

RE:

Thanks! --RoachTheIntelCollector (talk) 20:11, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Mission Transcripts

Hi, I was going through the mission to-do-list and noticed that transcripts were needed for GTAV missions, just wondering where you wanted them, whether on the page itself or a new page for example: Prologue/Transcript?

--~ Daniel Viglietti 02:14, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Hi, I'm checking the manual of style, there are 2 things I don't understand from the "Bold, Italics and Link Usage":

  1. What does exactly mean "Following from this, headings of GTA games must be both full form and italicized, but not linked."?
  2. Then it says "Titles of television, film and radio programs, musical albums, games and newspapers and magazines within the GTA universe itself, as well as real life equivalents of these, must be italicized as well. // Following from this, headings of these in-game works must also be italicized, but not linked." Does it mean that everytime I mention a radio station I have to write it in italics? And by writing the headings in italics does it mean that in the article of, say, Bounce FM, I have to put "Playlist", "Video", "Trivia" and "See Also" (i.e. all the headings in italics)?

Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 01:42, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Halloween Suprise Revert

Excuse me, why was my edit deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveGr0hlReal (talkcontribs) 2018-07-06T 8:11:16 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Why???

Hey, Kiwismurf. Just Curious Why Was My Edit Was Reverted When It’s A Proven Fact? (On The Kyle Chavis Page)

Ryder And Beverly Forever!!!! GROVE STREET 4 LIFE (talk) 05:09, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Protection

No prob, man. Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 15:42, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

GTA Episodes From Liberty City

Hi, I hope you're doing fine. I want to ask you if you could let me create a redirect page called "GTA Episodes From Liberty City". See, the thing is that with the exception of that one, all games have redirect pages when you just type "GTA" and then the name of the title (as in "GTA San Andreas" instead of the longer "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"). So, for the sake of uniformity and standardization when writing all the links, I would like to have that redirect page created. Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 09:43, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

CMC

Yeah, I've been getting a tonne of screenshots and information about businesses, focusing on Cypress Flats lately, and noticed there seems to be at least a couple of CMC places. CMC will likely become an article for the business and if the buildings are prominent in missions (not sure?), we can designate them separate articles (since they are quite large). Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 10:25, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, as part of the Gang Attacks updates, I'm looking at any locations that need pages (like the "Cherry Pie" Farm and I found the Great Chaparral instance of CMC was added by Cloudkit01, so it has to be taken with a fairly large dose of skepticism, except it was when he was being constructive and added legit ones at the same time. Damned if I can find any signage for it anywhere in Great Chaparral though. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 10:42, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Da Shootaz's Grand Theft Auto

Thanks for the help with the redirect page! I have one more request. I would like to have the article "Gangster Friday" re-titled to "Grand Theft Auto (song)". The thing is, I've been doing some researches and I found that the article is wrong. The actual title of the song is just "Grand Theft Auto", credited to fictional band "Da Shootaz", and the telltale sign, so to speak, is that the song is featured in the game's radios. The song "Gangster Friday" instead is credited to fictional band "Slumpussy" and doesn't play in any of the radios of the game (instead it works as the title track, and plays in the scores screen and the credits at the end of the game).

I gathered these references, you can see in the credits of the songs that Da Shootaz's "Grand Theft Auto" is listed with the songs of the radio N-CT FM and Slumpussy's Gangster Friday is instead listed as "Title track":

  1. CD of GTA 1 at Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/es/Various-Grand-Theft-Auto/release/10978924
  2. PDF of the manual of GTA 1: http://gtamp.com/GTA1/gta1manual.pdf
  3. PDF of the manual of GTA III (when "Grand Theft Auto" is featured again, on the Lips 106 radio): https://www.rockstargames.com/img/manuals/en_us/GTATrilogy_GTAIII_PS2_Manual_M01.pdf

Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 11:07, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Bureaucrat

Do you think you would be up for it? It's either you or Sam, both long standing staff members who are equally gracious here, would be a fantastic move ahead for more potentially successful admins. What do you think? :) (No, I didn't copy/paste the message, both personalized :p) Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 18:28, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

End of the Line; Curly Bob

Hello. 

I've received your advice through my email and I now know what I did wrong. However, what mistake did I make while editing End of the Line and Curly Bob? Just would like to know :D 

Thanks! RadBoy123 (talk) 21:20, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

End of the Line

Hello. 

Thanks again for the information regarding my edits. I was wondering if you could revert your revert to my edits on End of the Line (Curly Bob doesn't really matter) and give me another chance to re-edit said articles. Just a thought. 

Thanks! RadBoy123 (talk) 22:10, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

NECESSARY EDITS

Hi!

Thanks for allowing me to make the necessary edits to my former edits. I've switched the 'I's into Carl or The Player, and I've also changed the link. Could you review End of the Line again and contact me if there are any more issues?

Thanks! RadBoy123 (talk) 22:50, July 16, 2018 (UTC)

NPC modified vehicles

Just thought you should know, since NPC modified vehicles never really had their "own" article, I decided to make Vehicles in GTA V/Scenarios. It's basically a page that includes NPC modified vehicles as well as other unique scenarios. The page goes into quite a bit more detail than the LSC page and will be getting more detail in the future. The LSC section for NPC modified vehicles is still useful though, especially when putting a price label on these cars. Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 09:29, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

LS Customs Modded

Hey Smurf, just to save you time invested into unnecessary research, just thought you should know a few things, according to the files:

  • The time of spawn for almost all of the modded vehicles is all day, 00:00 - 24:00, including LSC cars. There's a few exceptions; the vehicles spawning driving out of places in Downtown LS, for example, is 06:00-20:00, and Sandking XL at Sandy Shores' discount store is 09:00-17:00, Sandking XL at Paleto Bay Ammu-Nation is 11:00 to 15:00, and Rat-Loader at Paleto Bay gas station is 07:00-15:00.
  • The only pre-modified vehicles that don't spawn outside LS Customs are the more "exclusive" model sets; the Bifta, Kalahari, Sandking XL, Roosevelt, Super Diamond, Rat-Loader, all the "Lowriders Modded" cars, and all the "Gang Modded" cars.
    • Here's a list of the LSC cars:
      • Coquette Classic (same 2)
      • Feltzer (same 1)
      • Dubsta2 (same 2)
      • Infernus (same 2)
      • Dominator (same 1)
      • Ruiner (same 2)
      • Sabre GT (same 2)
      • Gauntlet (same 1)
      • Sentinel (same 2)
      • Rapid GT (same 2)
      • Voltic (same 1)
      • Comet (same 2)
      • Surano (same 2)
      • Thrust (same 2)
      • Alpha (same 2)
      • Huntley S (same 2)
      • Jester (same 2)
      • Massacro (same 2)
      • Turismo R (same 2)
      • Zentorno (same 2)
      • Blade (same 2)
      • Glendale (same 2)
      • Panto (same 2)
      • Pigalle (same 2)
      • Rhapsody (same 2)
      • Warrener (same 2)
  • Outside of LSC, most of the cars are grouped into "modded sets" which determine where these variations spawn according to the scenario, this results in, for example, only high-end sports cars spawning on the downtown parking lot, or only the beach bum cars near the beach. Funnily enough, the LSC group is literally just a clone of almost all of these sets (as mentioned earlier, only a few are excepted from the list), so the cars outside LSC aren't anymore unique than when they spawn elsewhere, sharing the same mods, etc. Moreoever, the "LSC" group of vehicles isn't exclusive to LSC either, in fact there's a couple of downtown spawns which use the LSC group, resulting in lots of different variations.
  • There is usually 2 variations of each vehicle. The Feltzer, Dominator, Gauntlet, Voltic and all the lowrider cars only have 1 variation, while the Super Diamond has 3 variations and the Surfer has 4.
  • I did start a location list, seen on my sandbox, but never got round to finish it, despite having seen all of the locations (oh well :p).
  • I'm not entirely sure on the probability, since the .meta files reference it as 1.0000 (indefinite chance of spawning), and the .ymt files reference it as 0 (probably just null). I think, just like all scenarios, the chance of it spawning are determined by various factors, such as whether or not you're driving very fast (the game doesn't tend to load these scenarios during fast-pace gameplay as they will slow down the performance), whether or not there's already too many other scenarios playing, etc. I haven't been able to find a definite probability value for any scenarios, which really annoys me. Hopefully there's something somewhere.

Some useful information is found on my sandbox, as well as some pictures of both the cars and the spawn positions. I was planning on getting an image of each variation in each location, but that would total to hundreds of combinations and pictures, so that's off for now. Hope this helps in the meantime. Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 07:57, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

There's a list of vehicles that spawn in MP, I believe. The MP one seem to use that special spawn point opposite from the actual garage door, never noticed it in Online tbh; They spawn between 07:00 and 18:00.
The list of MP vehicles that spawn outside LSC is:
  • Dubsta2
  • Infernus
  • Ruiner
  • Dominator
  • Sabre GT
  • Gauntlet
  • Rapid GT
  • Surano
  • Voltic
  • Comet
  • Sentinel
Again, same variations as their SP counterparts. Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 09:21, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
I believe I have located the index which determines whether or not a scenario can occur in Online. There's a data entry "availableMpSp", 0 seems to mean SP only (I checked boxville scenarios, as they don't occur online), 1 means both (seems quite a few have this), and 2 means MP only (that "opposite-LSC" MP modified cars parking spot has this) I'll check through to see which of the modified vehicle spawns I know of have this value:
    • Beach Bum cars at Vespucci Beach (00:00-24:00)
    • Surfer modded at Del Perro Beach car park (07:00-19:00)
    • LS Modded SP cars at Galileo Observatory (08:00-21:00) - you might have to check this one, because it says it spawns in MP but the set it is using is of SP cars, not sure if they cancel each other out.
I'd probably take this with a grain of salt, to be honest. Apparently, according to the data, the Sandking and Rat Loader don't spawn in MP, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the Rat Loader in MP at least once. It also seems that there's a lot of inconsistency regarding animal spawns in the files, some apparently "can" spawn in MP while some cannot, but it's a known fact that animals don't spawn at all. There's probably a script file that disables animal spawns and there could be one for certain vehicles too. Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 09:36, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
Talking of LSC mesa, I've just been working on a locations list for LS modded SP cars, check it out (this is a template to be implemented into articles, see Boxville for example.)
  • LSC La Mesa, according to files:
    • LS Customs Modded MP cars spawn parked next to the oil tanker, facing opposite the building, near the railway, between 11:00 - 19:00.
    • LS Customs Modded SP cars spawn driving out onto the main road all day.
    • Any random car can be seen driving out onto the main road between 07:00 - 11:00.
    • Muscle Cars Modded (Dominator, Gauntlet, etc) can be seen driving out onto the main road between 11:00 - 19:00
    • A Police Interceptor can be seen facing the railway, parked just outside the building, at any time of day.
Have you seen any of these? I can't recall any of them at all! Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 10:21, July 19, 2018 (UTC)
Agreed with the police thing. I don't recall seeing it, ever. And yeah, verification in-game is usually essential since half of these appear to be different in-game. I trust the timings, I can't imaging they are overriden, and I trust the spawn positions, but verification as to whether they actually do occur and what game is usually important.
It's great that this data is finally being used in application on the wiki, I never knew what to do with it but now that it's becoming a reality in the locations section, I find it really interesting, seeing how the game plays with these settings is really cool. The locations work really well with the model set template I'm using in the NPC modified cars, showing the mods, colours, etc. Monk (Bureaucrat Bureaucrat) Talk 10:47, July 19, 2018 (UTC)

Minor Turbulence

Why was the Trivia i Added to Removed? I tested it and you CAN Save the Merryweather Mesa in Trevors Garage if you Push it in with Another Vehicle

DaringDo63 (talk) 21:12, July 20, 2018 (UTC)DaringDo63

Lazlow photo

Hey, what went wrong this time? I followed all the steps you said in my talk page, I changed the name of the file and then I clicked on the "fair use" license, like you said. Why can't the photo of Lazlow stay in the article?--Vagoperezoso (talk) 21:21, July 20, 2018 (UTC)

Why Not?

You did an undo on my contribution of linking the image
Triads Logo
on this page. May I know why my edit was not valid and was reversed by you?

Meraj: look >> talk >> stalk 10:50, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Troll

By reading this page, it appears you have a tendency to invalidate users’ contributions without leaving any rationale whatsoever. And I will not be engaging in any imbecilic edit war with such thickheads. Born2BGratis (talk) 14:32, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Oh wow, I find your attempt at rationalizing your not using “Edit summary” ridiculous. I have never been uncivil to anyone before in this wiki. But whatever dude, you’re the one with powers here so you may use them to patronize people. This just isn’t worth my time. Born2BGratis (talk) 14:53, July 27, 2018 (UTC)

Nightclubs Sell data

Could  you please show me where you want the table of profits to go? I could not find a right page.

Sorry if this is a repeat. New user wanting to help

Question about putting the nightclub profit table here. Where would it go and why all Caps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeros are Heros (talkcontribs) 2018-07-29T04:06:39 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Savestra = Mazda, really?

I invite you to explain to me how that ONE car, is more like a Mazda RX-3, then a Nissan C110 GTR.

It's clearly a company parodying Nissan, and every other car is listed as Nissan, but that -one- vehicle is suddenly a Mazda? Why?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/94gvxcjKJTk/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AjPg9bzYYAs/maxresdefault.jpg

I mean listen to the engine, it even sounds the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQUN-c-MYA

Thesavestraisac110 (talk) 20:30, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, allow me to provide you with some more evidence--

Rear of a Mazda RX-3

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/31839708+w+h+q80+re0+cr1/sstp_1002_03_o%2B1973_mazda_rx_3%2Brear.jpg

http://performancedrive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/1972-Mazda-RX-3-rear.jpg

Rear of a Nissan GTR C110

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3783/9693627646_3bf42601b2_b.jpg

https://gyazo.com/f8879b0ebf5305727ecfd7ace6a1f5c8

I will admit it's not as fat, but the general body shape only confirms to this because it isn't as wide-- basically because of these windows--

https://i.gyazo.com/4254c0572c945ab683fbcb740d1a0e60.png

You're calling it a Mazda? Why? The whole Annis lineup is Nissan and this vehicle, besides the fact that it's more narrow, is almost exactly the same as a C110. The only areas it differs are it's thickness and the rear window. As opposed to say, the grille, the rear lighting arrangement, the tires--

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SVvUTr_JOQM/maxresdefault.jpg

If that rear window were flush with the body, it wold be indisputable.

Thesavestraisac110 (talk) 20:58, July 31, 2018 (UTC)

Media policy reminder

Greetings, Kiwismurf.

I noticed the message you left on my talk page regarding the images I sent. Is there something wrong with them? Or perhaps I chose the wrong category option for them when I first uploaded them. I tried to change them up a bit, but I couldn't find the easy way. Do you know how I can change the images so that I can declare them as being screenshots I took in-game?

I also tried to edit one of my character info-boxes with additional information, but it wouldn't let me. Why is that?

I know for the fact that we haven't gotten along well since the last discussion, but I'd like to discuss what happened on my talk page with you. What happened, and how I can fix it?

Best regards,

-Christian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisatsinnoh (talkcontribs) 2018-08-08 17:57:09 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Scouting the Port edit

Hey there, apparently an edit I did got reverted also got rid of an edit I did sometime last month. Is it alright if I put this edit back on the page? https://gta.wikia.com/wiki/Scouting_the_Port?diff=1082108&oldid=1046771 --Chrysalis14 (talk) 09:00, August 9, 2018 (UTC)

Victor Vance Speculation

Hey, what did I do wrong here? The site didn't give me much detail, if this is on the Victor Vance page, I stated quite clearly that was not to taken as any form of canon and it was very much a fan theory. This wiki is FULL of those, I didn't mean to be misleading or anything. Just let me know so I know what not to do in the future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FullStateFeedback (talkcontribs) 2018-08-11 15:53:37 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Answered quite clearly by the warning on your talk page. Read the policies. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 22:21, August 11, 2018 (UTC)

GTA Advance title

It's a slippery slop on the title as I looked. I admittedly didn't do much research on the title before hand and it turns out the source I looked at that referred to the "Grand Theft Auto" being the official name from promotional material as such appears to be misinformed. Rockstar does refer to it as Advance a few times on its website you mentioned. Other sites from around the same time refer to it as Advance as well, while IGN and some online stores refer to it as simply Grand Theft Auto. IGN, Metacritic and the official Wikipedia page for the game still refer to it as Grand Theft Auto as well. I'd like to reach a compromise to mention "also known as simply Grand Theft Auto." on the article.

Nonstopmaximum (talk) 22:40, September 1st, 2018 (UTC)Nonstopmaximum

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