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GTAwiki mistakes


I am sorry to tell you that also Rooftop Rumble is wrong in regard to the FIB agents, the model used is named in the GTA V game files as S_M_Y_devinsec_01 and has nothing to do with the various FIB models used in game. 

During Rooftop Rumble FIB is never mentioned, and the only reason people assume they are FIB agents is because the FIB Granger  appears in the mission (that is also used by NOOSE and in many online missions seen parked near LSPD cops without any NOOSE or FIB agents in sight).

So making the assumption that the Fugitive is a FIB vehicle because it is driven by Devin's security guard model that is also seen near an FIB Granger (that is not only used by FIB) is a stretch and not "factual".

The Fugitive also do not have a LS EXEMPT license plate like the FIB Granger and FIB Buffalo (identifying it as a government vehicle)... so I see no reason to assume it is an FIB vehicle.

Anyway, I will be giving this issue a rest, and will not bother fixing any of the GTAwiki mistakes any more. I will however make a video highlighting various mistakes in hope that people get the real GTA facts. It is no seacret that your wiki is often wrong on the smaller details of the game.

Whatever007 (talk) 13:15, July 2, 2020 (UTC)

OR that R* made a mistake (not the first time)... anyway feel free to add the Desert Eagle used by FIB agents in "Going Deep" from TBoGT and the Police Maverick from the online mission “Exit Strategy”.

Whatever007 (talk) 16:49, July 2, 2020 (UTC)

I am sure it's a mistake on the part of R*, also last time I played "Rooftop Rumble" the "FIB agent" escaping in the Fugitive was an asian model (not devinsec)... so WTF. anyway thanks for rhe informative reply. 

Also it is completely reasonable that the FIB would use civilian cars, it's just in this particular case seems like a very odd coincidence. (if there were no FIB Grangers there then "ok, they just happen to use the same cars... cool") but they use both type of cars and sending reinforcments in unmarked cars, feels alot like R* didn't care. Also they have like 10 fib models in the files (one only used in a single cutcene) so... someone at R* just made the mission going "f this, I need a security model... here, that's fine..."

Whatever007 (talk) 08:49, July 3, 2020 (UTC) 

Question About LSPA

LSPA law enforcement or not?

  • Is the LSPA law enforcement or not?

They have booths in the port with Gruppe Sechs guards inside or around them and control checkpoints. Also the LCPA and VCPA are marked as law enforcement.

Thanks, NalexandruN (talk) 05:12, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

Gta 4 query

Sayantan21 (talk) 06:26, July 8, 2020 (UTC)

Respected Sir,

I have a question, Is it possible to enter inside the Niko's Alderney safehouse in Gta The Ballad of Gay Tony using any glitch. If yes. please tell me how.

Thank you

Sayantan21 (talk) 06:26, July 8, 2020 (UTC)


Why did you revert my edit? Sharia Rebirth (talk) 07:23, July 18, 2020 (UTC)

GTA wiki mistakes

I'm sorry for what I did to make you ban me temporarily, in fact, I did not even know the LSPD database said he was born in "Russia". I had no idea. Also, the Red Army actually was split into the Soviet Armed Forces in 1946, so if he served in the army at about 1980-1991, he would have actually served in the Soviet Armed Forces instead of the Red Army that was renamed in 1946. Can I please have your permission to change the link "Soviet Army" from into or SovietFriends91 (talk) 11:14, July 21, 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I understand you because GTA is not the most realistic game in the world, unfortunately. SovietFriends91 (talk) 11:37, July 21, 2020 (UTC)


Hi, Kiwismurf. I have been waiting for your reply for almost a week now and you still did not repond. Can you answer my question please? 

Sharia Rebirth (talk) 14:35, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

Hi there. From what I can see having seen the edit my guess is it was reverted for not being considered Trivia. Sam Talk 16:03, July 25, 2020 (UTC)

OK, I understand the reason behind the reversal of my second edit. But what about the first one? I did not add any piece of trivia; quite the opposite: I removed one because of its inaccuracy.  Sharia Rebirth (talk) 14:15, July 28, 2020 (UTC)

Why are you taking so long to reply, Sean? Are you sick or something? Sharia Rebirth (talk) 15:10, July 30, 2020 (UTC)

GTA VCS Edit reverts

Why is it taking so long for you to reply? Are you not getting any notifications? Are you sick? Or is it something else?  Sharia Rebirth (talk) 17:11, August 1, 2020 (UTC)

GTA VCS Edit reverts again

It's OK. Don't worry about it. I just got a little worried since it was not usual of you to be so late in replying. Are you OK, though?

One last question: do you still get notifications if a user posts additional edits under the same subject/headline? Was it necessary for me to create this headline to write all of it? Sharia Rebirth (talk) 04:39, August 2, 2020 (UTC)

Benefactor Edit Warring

Hey - the edits I've made to the Benefactor page I believe are more accurate since "Brabus" is just an aftermarket manufacture to Mercedes-Benz.—Preceding unsigned comment added by ExoticShadow (talkcontribs) 2020-08-02T16:13:58 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Important information about your former Admin


I am Sasquatch101 the founder and Beauracrat of the GTA Myths Wiki. One of my staff have revealed to me that your former Admin User:Thomas0802 was involved in an off site voter fraud group that also held extreme racist and anti semitic beliefs. He partook in rigging numerous votes on the GTA Myth Wiki and conspired to replace most of the staff with members of his hate group. I suggest you ban him on your site out of principle and caution in case he resurfaces. Please feel free to contact me if you want to discuss this further.--Sasquatch101 (talk) 22:54, August 4, 2020 (UTC)

Vehicles in GTAV & Online: Image Correction

Hi Kiwi, sorry for my bad edits. There's some wrong with the image of the Moonbeam Custom, can you correct it? S-424 (talk) 05:04, August 12, 2020 (UTC)

New Wiki Manager

Hey Kiwismurf, I'm Tephra, the new Fandom Wiki Manager to replace Emptylord. If you need anything, feel free to contact me and I will get back to you as soon as possible.
◄► Tephra ◄► 23:44, August 16, 2020 (UTC)

Trevor's Trailer

Hi, this IAmNothing712, the guy who made edits in the Trevor's Trailer article. I happened to perform a Nightclub selling mission last night at Sandy Shores, the dropoff of which was very close to the lot where Trevor's Trailer was supposed to be located. What's on the lot appeared to be different to Trevor's Trailer as it was replaced with a blue trailer without a garage. If you happen to perform a Nightclub selling mission there (which happened to be the same basis of my previous edit in the page), go check it out. I'm not here to incite edit wars, I'm a fan of GTA as much as you are and my edits are in good faith. Thank you. IAmNothing712 (talk) 00:16, August 17, 2020 (UTC)

Portable infoboxes

Hi! I'm here to help Tephra a bit with some areas we found. There's still some remaining non-portable infoboxes, with few uses but it would be fine if they're converted. Do you want me to help with this? Regards. --FirmaCubanVercetti.PNG DiscusionCubanVercetti.PNG 17:17, August 19, 2020 (UTC)

Awesome! I've finished the conversion of the remaining infoboxes. The details are in my talk page. Thanks for your help! See you soon!!! --FirmaCubanVercetti.PNG DiscusionCubanVercetti.PNG 08:37, August 20, 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome! And, like I've said, if you want I can create a portable infobox for user pages. At least it will use your standard theme, more accurate with the current wiki design than the old one. If you want, I can easily create it now. --FirmaCubanVercetti.PNG DiscusionCubanVercetti.PNG 09:01, August 20, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, my bad, thanks for the cleanup.

Not familiar with fandom, only registered because of searched for an easy way to throw in those hints but couldn't find any... a suggestion mailbox or something would be useful.

Anyway, I did a gang attack series recently, and when I did a crosscheck at the end those two from the map were missing from the game.

The first could be gone for a while (finished it earlier on the run), but the tunnel must be a summer dlc thing, because I just finished it maybe two weeks ago, so it was definitely in-game then. SomBrem (talk) 15:02, August 20, 2020 (UTC)

Picador edit

Did you not even look at my edit before deleting it just because it was changing something you wrote? Because the front end of the Picador is almost identical to a '65 El Camino. The '67 has corners that come to a point. Just look at them:




It even has the exact same thick bar across the center. There is no reasonable argument it looks more like the '67 front end, there just isn't. You don't have to take it personally.

Cosmicdustjunkie (talk) 02:50, August 25, 2020 (UTC)

VCPD Cheetah

Why did you revert my edits? I thought we should try to avoid adding information to trivia sections as much as we can, according to the trivia policy ? All I did was to cut a piece of information from trivia and paste it where it should really belong. I also removed an unimportant content from infobox. Sharia Rebirth (talk) 17:22, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

Update: ok never mind; I understand the infobox thing now. But still, what about the first one? Sharia Rebirth (talk) 17:28, August 26, 2020 (UTC)

Image Requests/Queries

Hi Smurfy, I needed some logos/images as well as some store screenshots and textures of posters outside stores for the below listed to create and modify some already existing pages in the list:

Location - Davis Plaza, Opposite Central Los Santos Medical Center

Location - Strawberry, Opposite to the Church

  • Totally Rental (Logo, Store sign, and texture of posters on window)
  • On The Bone (Store screenshot, Logo, Texture of posters/banners)

Other needs


Hope I get a reply soon. Thanks for the support Steve316 (talk) 10:26, August 29, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Smurfy, any updates regarding the above request? Thank you Steve316 (talk) 11:57, September 5, 2020 (UTC)

Hi Smurfy, any updates regarding above request? Please reply so I can get an idea if I have to ask somone else about it if you're busy in-case. Also my prevoius comment to you about a month or 2 ago still isn't replied so I posted other one. Thanks Steve316 (talk) 10:01, September 14, 2020 (UTC)


Who is the tritagonist of GTAA?PolishTheTortuga (talk) 22:31, August 29, 2020 (UTC)

"Blalantly false edits"?

Sorry i didn't understand what you're implying and saying, did my edits somehow bothered you in any way??? I wasn't  vandalizing, speculating or adding any false info to the pages, i removed the info of Claude formely affiliated to the gangs based on the fact that the yakuza and the hoddies are still allied with Clause after the storyline mainly because of the fact that they DONT attack attack him on sight unlike the rest of the other gangs in GTA 3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tesshu (talkcontribs) 2020-08-31T16:36:06 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.

Hey kwiki I wanted to ask you if you don't mind that i revert back my previous edits in Claude and Yakuza's pages as i explained to you my reasons to edit like i said before i'm not speculating, vandalizing or adding any false info on my part OK?? Tesshu (talk) 23:50, September 1, 2020 (UTC)

I did not played GTA 3 THAT much as i played GTA San Andreas, Vice City, 2, 4 and 5 and so didn't got that far in the storyline of the game so i thougth both the Red and Purple Hoodies were the same gang and not 2 separated gangs sharing the same name but still the Red Hoods are allied with Claude while the Purple were not and so he helped the Red Hoods end their bitter rivals, so in conclusion the Red Hoods and the Yakuza are the only two gangs in GTA 3 who are allied with Claude and are not hostile with him in a similar way that Niko is allied with the Jamaican and Irish mobs. Tesshu (talk) 00:49, September 2, 2020 (UTC)   

Yes you're def right, there is allways a third option neutraity/ambivalence which is def the best one of the those 3 options also i think that Claude by the end of GTA3 he just wants to live a peaceful and quiet life without any connection with gangs or the world of crime much like Niko.Tesshu (talk) 01:39, September 2, 2020 (UTC)

Vehicle edit reverts

Hi their sorry for speaking to you 'years later' later i do understand the that i live in a 3rd World Region called Latin America and i should be in the Spanish Fandom, i got to stop you right their, the first language that i speak is English and im not thinking of using spanish as my first language, I deliver this message to tell you why do you reset my information between my point of view, you and me know their are stuff that R* has posted that are lazy sources that doesnt make sense and most of them don't have an explanation, especially on vehicles, you and me know that some of the vehicles that this community has written about their real life counterparts are not even the same as their real life counterparts, so Kiwismurf as Bachellor, bureaucrat or lord, whatever they call you, please listen to the community, you got to learn to analyze before you criticise, remember this is site it's just like Wikipedia some info in the Wikipedia are not true, i hope you understand this long paragraph of sensitivity.

PS Greed and pride is a stairway to Hell

Take care friend, wish you good, never the bad.‎ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maybach62 (talkcontribs) 2020-09-01T02:45:07 Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~.


Hey. Just fyi, "dub" is socal slang for a twenty dollar bill, which is where the term for the weed came from - $20 worth of weed. Also, said "dub" was in his wallet, where money is usually stored. A wallet probably wouldn't be a smart place to store tree, it'd get all crushed up and such... To me it seems more like he was saying "you better not have taken my money". Just a thought. My name is irrelevant, officer. (talk) 19:03, September 20, 2020 (UTC)

Why did you revert the changes to Solomun? He is a Croat

Lonnno (talk) 20:13, September 30, 2020 (UTC)Lonnno

Talk Page

Hello, @Kiwismurf can my talk page be deleted? Thanks. White44Tree (talk) 01:50, October 8, 2020 (UTC)


incredible, only you the only admin one who reverses harmless edits and erases media, very good. congratulations —Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowFrogger (talkcontribs) 2020-10-29T04:49:19‎ 2020-10-29T04:47:10‎ Please remember to sign your talk page messages with ~~~~. (Ignored)

Liberty City Hardcore

Hey, Kiwismurf. You there? I'm new here. I wanted to ask you something about the above radio station... 𝔼𝕄𝕀ℕ𝔼ℕℂ𝔼 𝔹𝔸ℂ𝕂 22:56, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Valley of the Pagans music video

Hey! I'm the bureaucrat for the Gorillaz wiki and I wanted to check with you if I could make a page for The Valley of the Pagans music video which premiered today. Its filmed almost entirely in GTA V. I used to edit here regularly back in the early days of GTA V but, dropped off the radar cause life happens but, if you would prefer that there isn't a page just for a music video, I would understand (: RadicalEdward2 (talk) 19:34, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: Gorillaz video

True but, there's always the possibility that this track might be added the game since it wouldn't make sense for Rockstar to let Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett publish a music video filmed almost entirely in GTA V for no reason. At the end of the day, I never expected a music video like this to ever happen. Its a wild time to be alive lol On our end, we already put together a whole page with all the locations featured in the video in the order they appeared. RadicalEdward2 (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Re: Gorillaz video

Cool! Thanks again! RadicalEdward2 (talk) 04:40, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Faggio sport.

Hello Mr. I have noticed that the Faggio Sport is slightly wrong on wheelies. It can preform wheelies but they are only teeny tiny. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know. Thank you Arkansalter (talk) 02:30, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Arkansalter

errr... OK? I suspect that was really important for me to know, for some reason. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 03:03, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. I should have specified. I was talking about in Grand Theft Auto V. Arkansalter (talk) 03:49, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Arkansalter

About the Details of the Pagan Car

There's some wrong in the sentence in Vigero#Trivia: "A modified grille badge also reading "Pagan" replaces the standard badge, repositioned centrally, but the Vigero badging remains on the rear." I saw a scene (about at 1:50), the car featured the Vigero's grille, which explained the grille haven't changed at all. And also, the interior is from the Camaro's. This should indicate that the Vigero is not the same as the Pagan Car, but appears as a "replacement" in some driving scenes. I think it will be more accurate if you can change the discricptions. S-424 (talk) 08:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Insights page


Was the Special:Insights page removed? NalexandruN (talk) 12:14, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

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