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Default vehicle radio stations

Claiming that the default stations in GTASA are "incorrect" is questionable at best.

My approach to verifying default stations in GTASA involves reloading savegames again and again because the first radio station that you are tuned in will stick as long as you enter another vehicle quickly enough after exiting the last one. Basically I spawn a vehicle using a trainer as soon as I load a savegame, enter it, record the station it immediately plays, reload the same savegame and repeat. I also notice the exact thing when playing race modes SA:MP multiplayer games; every car seems to tune in to their own station the first time each race is loaded. I wouldn't had brought it up if I didn't have evidence, and it's certainly not present in any other GTA games with radio stations.

As for GTA4, I haven't have a proper methodology to study default radio stations there, so I'm in no position to question removals of writing on the game's radio station. - ZS 09:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

So should they be removed? --Chimpso 09:13, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
GTASA's radio stations are verified and thus the recent string of removals on that part is not acceptable. As mentioned, Those on GTA4 cannot be properly tested unless the person who added it (User:Loadingue) had employed the same methods as I did to verify default stations. It's best you ask him on his talk page how he studied the default stations. - ZS 09:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

But are they SERIOUSLY needed anyway. Who cares about the default radio stations when you can just change them? --Chimpso 09:32, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It IS a wiki on GTA, and I trust most gaming wikis do the same. It's definitely no Wikipedia run by wikifaggots. - ZS 09:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit Warring & Abusive Comments

Hey there, I'm glad to see that you actually care about the quality/relevance of edits here on GTW (such users are few and far between these days), and I can definately agree that a some user's writing and grammar could use a lot of work. However, I don't think being abusive and insensitive towards them is really the best way to approach this situation. In regards to the "unnecessary/useless" edits you've been reverting, the best thing to do would be to discuss them on the appropriate article's talk pages; you may feel that what you are doing is right, but it's better to see if everyone else agrees/disagrees first. I know that may seem tedius and unnecessary, but as I said, it's better to know if you have support or not - of course, in most cases, discussion is unnecessary, such as when reverting vandalism, or reverting edits which are blatantly unnecessary. When tackling the "Myths in [game name]" articles though, you have to remember that most myths are made up and have little-to-no proof backing them, hence why they are called "myths". - Hardrock182 17:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, sorry about that. I will keep that in mind. --Chimpso 02:22, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


In response to what you said, I think it probably would be best to categorise the preachers, tramps etc as "pedestrians", because that's pretty much what they are in the game world - personally, I consider "characters" to be people who have some sort of role in the game's storyline/missions. So, yes, you did the right thing by changing the categories. - Hardrock182 11:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for verifying that for me. --Chimpso 11:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


is a myth which means its possible that he exists you just have to find him. I had experances in the sprunk factory online and theres no bouncer in the online play. Secondly ratman is the same thing as leatherface no one found him yet you just have to look for him your self. Cause there are alot of secrets and myths that are not proven or nearly proven. Bigfoot exists you just need version one of gta san andreas he can only be found at nightime during foggy/stormy conditions. Same with leatherface. They is also a very low chance that either of them can spawn. As bigfoot only has 1/10 chance of spawning. I never found the chance that leatherface could spawn but it should be the same. This is myth information im giving you. The serial killer does exists as i got him to hit a cop as soon as the cop pulled out his gun so did the serial killer. user--Stephendwan 12:31, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Why do you feel the need to post such things on his page? Surely the Myths articles talk pages would be better places for such debate? Just a suggestion, I'm sure Chimpso probably isn't too pleased with comments like this on his Talk... C-d-rom 14:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
That is correct, If you want to talk about myths then please move your disgustingly grammerd comments to their appripriate talk pages. Thank you, look at uncle sam at the top, he wants you not to spam the page. --Chimpso 08:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

fine but this time chimpso don't delete the info i put in as these are called myths for a reason.

i was only messing with ye about the heart of liberty city i did actually tried to kill it. But the rest of the myths i am investigating i am called a gta myth hunter for a reason you know. user--Stephendwan 11:47, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

besides i love boss fights i did try and check how much bullet it takes but it has infinte health on or something. user--Stephendwan 11:49, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

hey check out this possible bigfoot picture it is not a mod cause its a ps2 version notice the buttons at the bottom of the screen. user--Stephendwan 12:40, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

First of all, bigfoot dosen't exist. Rockstar said so themselves so i know you are lying. Second: STOP POSTING CRAP ABOUT MYTHS ON MY TALK PAGE! PLACE THEM ON THE MYTH TALK PAGES! I WILL NOT RESPOND TO ANY FURTHER MESSAGES ABOUT MYTHS ON MY TALK PAGE! --Chimpso 02:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't like it when someone tells me im lying when i experance something as i know that i get strange in the game at time and i am an honest and sometimes might joke kina person this has nothing to do with myths its just to tell you that im not lying although i need someone to be skeptic. user--Stephendwan 10:03, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

it be more easer explaning to prove what i saw if i was on youtube but im to young and i need fraps and a recorder. user--Stephendwan 10:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Most people on youtube use mods and so nothing on there is any form of PROOF. --Chimpso 10:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

but i don't use mods i have the ps2 version which i don't even know how to mod and everyone can see its the ps2 version 1 as i got it on the same year it was release and anyways i have to fight nemesis in final fantasy x now. user--Stephendwan 10:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Im going to end this discussion. You say you have found these myths. I say; "Ok show us some proof? Do you have any pictures?" You don't reply. No Pictures! No Myth! No Writing About It In Articles Without Somone Even Hearing About It! Now PLEASE stop talking about myths on MY talk page! --Chimpso 10:14, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

RE: Helicopters?

Hey there, I agree with what you are saying. The best thing to do would be to merge all those articles with Helicopter, as that would be the most appropriate name for it. However, unfortunately, there seems to be mixed opinion about having all things of the same type in one article; some people, like you and me (among others), think that it's a good idea, while others feel the need to have hundreds of different articles if there is even so much as a minor difference between the subject in question - because of this, I recommend that you leave a message on the talk page of one of the articles, it doesn't matter which one, although Talk:Helicopter would be the most appropriate place, so we can see whether or not the majority agrees/disagrees with this idea. Hope that helps. - Hardrock182 16:45, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok I will do that, lets see if the community agrees. --Chimpso 23:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


You must have added the "Seriously, it's not needed" comment for a reason. Why would i care if it's not needed? Why is it serious? And 1984 isn't the early 80s, it's the mid 80s. But early 80s is best when it can be assumed. SuperTron500 10:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

By the seriously not needed comment, that was about the graphics changes of the car from VC to VCS not the date. Also I added "the early 80s" comment for a reason. I assume it came out before the events of VSC. I hope you understand. --Chimpso 10:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Understand what? If you mean about the seriously thing; I guess. It's not a big deal. Boasting/speculating you and your friend Thescarydude have more experience than me in Wikipedia doesn't really help things. It's best not to speculate on that kind of stuff, it wasn't even the edit i had a problem with as much as the claim of bad logic. I felt it was important to note when the car was produced. SuperTron500 10:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I read your post on his talk page wrong. I'm not taking into consideration about you guys being more experienced, there's just no need. You told Thescarydude you changed "it" back to! but really you don't change anything back technically. I guess perhaps i should maybe take note and leave remarks like that whenever i have to revert another editor's unneeded info. SuperTron500 11:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Maybe i made a mistake in thinking you guys had negative intentions, but i've changed, so i hope there's no hard feelings. What do you think of the Deluxo in general? And do you ever use it? SuperTron500 12:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
I was not boasting about us having more experience, just informing you that we know how this wiki works a bit more then you do. Anyway yes - I do use the Deluxo. Usually as a race vehicle. Also no hard feelings taken :). Keep up the good work. Chimpso Manager of Strasky and Hutch Game Wiki 12:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Game connections

I noticed you left the following note with your revision: Reverted edit by SuperTron500. Don't post similaritys with other games on GTW articles

I have a few problems with this. Firstly, it seems like that's a direct order from you to me. Thescarydude worked on that reference too.. Besides that, what do you mean about not noting similarities? Have you looked at some of the other articles lately? The Manhunt article and various GTA articles list connections, so by your logic they shouldn't belong either. No offence, but your comment doesn't make alot of sense to me, i fail to see your logic. SuperTron500 08:14, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry if that sounded like a direct order, it was ment to be a suggestion :). They shoulden't go into the vehicle articles because most people will look at it and think; "What the hell is Bully?". In my opinion as I said this it GTW not Bully wiki. (If you search Bully Wiki up you will find one). Thank you. --Chimpso 08:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
I know this is a damn GTA wiki, please stop telling me that. You don't have to specify. I also know there is Bully wiki, so no need to stress that anymore either. My point was, there are tons of non-GTA references on this site, so by that logic they should all be removed because this is a GTA wiki, not a Bully or Manhunt wiki. Thescarydude also seemed to believe the Stallion and Regina appeared in Bully, and he's a seasoned veteran, so this isn't just a newbie thing. I was somewhat encouraged by his opinion on it. SuperTron500 08:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes he did know. But he did not brag about it and put it in articles, he for one knows this is GTW not Bully wiki. No Hard Feelings mate :D. --Chimpso 08:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha, the irony of that is he did actually add a Bully reference in the Diable Stallion page. I added the Diablo stallion appeared, but he changed it to a trivia section stating a black Stallion with flames appears, so it's not the same as what i wrote. The stuff about bragging is bull, sorry to say. I never bragged because i don't care all that much if they're in there. Of course there's no hard feelings, "mate" XD. SuperTron500 08:42, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Well then I sincerley apoligise for saying "bragging" (jeeze your so sensitive), but anyways It is best to remind him of that too. Vehicle articles are important. Small articles that are not important can have some info on other games. But for the main articles on this wiki (vehicles included) it's to remember this: "This it GTW not Bully wiki". I respect your opinion but please respect mine as an experienced member of this wiki (no I am not bragging mister.) Thank you.
Haha, i'm not sensitive in a funny way or anything, i just figured you were giving a newbie bit of a rough time. I respect your opinion aswell, i simply thought you meant there should be no connections at all (small articles included). Now that it's cleared up i understand. That's why i try to work things out with you guys, because you are experienced and i wish to learn more about how to work around here. SuperTron500 08:52, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Im glad to see this is finally over *puts down bazooka* I nearly had to finish it myself! (that was a joke) But I am glad we have come to a peacefull agreement, thats the way it should be. Regards, Chimpso 08:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Whoah, Tim. I wasn't talking about you behind your back, i just was trying to clarify because i'm trying to learn from the more experienced members like you guys and to be honest, the second i wrote to Thescarydude things in general weren't making sense (to me). You're both experienced, but when he added the trivia section i thought that was telling me it was okay, and when you got rid of it i was confused. I hope we can be friends someday. SuperTron500 09:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Who's Tim? I'm not Tim. My name is Emanuell. Anyway I forgive you for the confused bit. I was confused when I first started also. But friends? Ok that sounds good. If you ever need help with anything wiki-related ask me or (preferably) a member of Staff. Kind Regards, Chimpso 09:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Tim is the guy from the Evacuator films in the GTA universe. I thought your bazooka bit was a reference to his tendencies. As far as friends go i hope that doesn't sound bad to you, i just meant the good terms like you and Thescarydude.

I also have to agree with you, Vice City is hands down the best GTA, it was the first one i played back in 2004 and it was loads of fun. I haven't played GTA IV yet, but i still feel VC will always be my favorite, even if they wind up doing a GTA IV Era Vice City (it could happen). Were you around when VC is set? SuperTron500 09:24, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

No, this may come as a surprise to you, but I am only 13. So I was not around in those days. --Chimpso 09:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Wow, i was born in 1990 and i thought i'd be one of the younger editors here. I've always felt closer to VC than SA. I don't remember 1992, but i remember the 90s in general, so i didn't have quite as much fun as with exploring Vice City in the 80s. I sort of gathered i was born during a transition point where the VC feel was already transforming into the SA one.
If you ever happen upon a DeLorean that takes you back in time let me know, i might be willing to buy it. Unless it's to expensive, at which point i'll have to steal it while being shot at by guys with red arrows hovering over their heads. SuperTron500 09:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah well, lifes a bitch, isin't it? Chimpso 09:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha yeah, then you die. That's why it's best to live life to its fullest. You never know when you might actually be a GTA pedestrian the protagonist decides to mow you down for fun. I don't think killing in video games is wrong, i feel it's very therapeutic and a great way to just vent. Screw Jack Thompson! GTA FOREVER!! SuperTron500 10:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Hell Yeah! :) --Chimpso 10:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
One last question though, my friend. Did you know the Diablo Stallion and Regina references are on this site's Bully page? If you don't mind those facts staying on there i'd really like to point out the moped thing on there. SuperTron500 10:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Sure, why not. Putting things like that on the official Bully page is a good idea. --Chimpso 10:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I did consider adding the fact Jimmy Hopkins can be customized to look like Claude from GTA III, but i felt it was a little too trivial since it's not simply a pre-made outfit like Niko's apparently is. SuperTron500 10:36, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Chimpso, I'm not sure why exactly you want this stuff removed. The cars' cameo appearances in other games seems like interesting trivia to me (at least more than radio stations).--Thescarydude 10:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion that should go into the Bully article. Chimpso 10:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Was i right to assume addind that Jimmy can be given Claude's appearance is too trivial? SuperTron500 11:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Im not sure about that as I have no experience with Jimmy (whoever he is). --Chimpso 11:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

GTA Fan Fiction

Greetings Chimpso,Sorry I haven't been on for a while but I had already created my account for GTAFF Wikia so when you're ready you can promote me (Im sorry if I sound like a rush).Cheers-User:BloodyGTA



Person resembling Claude

Hi. I was wondering if i could get you opinion on something; Do you think this supposed to be Claude (the guy from GTA III) or just a look-a-like? I was wondering because even though i haven't played GTA IV i was under the impression it takes place in a different reality than the others. It's disappointing they removed some of the fun stuff for realism purposes. SuperTron500 08:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Responded on User:Thescarydudes talk page. Chimpso 11:31, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
Hi SuperTron500 and Chimpso, This person really exists in the Shottler hospital. he has the similar (not exactly the same)
clothing. the only difference is that when you get close he turnes out to be an African American Male in his 40's not close to claude.
Thanks. Shayanshaffey 13:47, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Cleaning up

The reason I've moved them into subpages is that they were too guide-like to begin with. Forums may work since the Forum:The Helicopter Sniping Trick shows it's feasible. Moving them there should be fine, as long as the new wikilinks stay in same section. - ZS 10:21, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Dealing with vandals

Hey, thanks for your help with dealing with the vandal. However, please be aware of our NSFV policy, and leave only factual and direct messages on their talk page. Gboyers talk 14:27, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ok GB, thanks. I was not aware of this policy here and I will make sure to use it in the future. Chimpso 01:28, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


I haven a question that has to do with the redirects. You said that some would be necessary such as the L.C.P.D to LCPD. Well would it be right to make a redirect page for the driving school, which would be Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring?--Gta-mysteries 21:59, October 12, 2009 (UTC)

Redirects are useful for two reasons. Firstly, it's a lot easier to link to GTA London 1961 than the full game title. Sometimes we go to the extreme and have shortcuts like TLAD to make life easier for editors. Secondly, someone might search for (or link to) a title that doesn't automatically take them to the right page. For example searching for "Advanced Motoring" doesn't take you to the right page, and the search results are unhelpful, so a redirect to Driving School would be one way to fix that. However, just putting those words on the Driving School page would also work, and it's unlikely that many people would actively look fo "Turning Tricks Advanced Motoring". However L.C.P.D. is a good example because searching for that won't bring up a page on LCPD without a redirect (as we couldn't list every variation on the page). So in this case, a redirect isn't really necessary unless you think it makes life easier for someone along the way. If you think it does, then go ahead. Gboyers talk 22:33, October 12, 2009 (UTC)
This is not a really good question to ask me right now. My computer has crashed and is getting repaired and thats why I am not on much. But I agree with Gboyers. If it makes things easier then feel free to create a redirect. Chimpso 23:02, October 12, 2009 (UTC)


Hi sorry about that, Im quite new in this wiki and I didnt know about that. May I move articles? --Gustavob мsg 00:30, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Resopnded on User:Gustavob's Talk page.Chimpso 08:25, November 27, 2009 (UTC)

RE: Weapon Ammo

Actually there is a major difference between a magazine and a clip. Unfortunately man people get this confused do to many TV shows, movies, and video games incorrectly referring them to "clips". CujoTwoOne 07:42, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

The best way is just to show you, go to google images and search for "clip vs magazine". A weapon that uses a magazine cannot use a clip, and a weapon that uses a clip cannot use a magazine. CujoTwoOne 07:46, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Victor Vance talk page

There is no need to protect the page. People will continue to ask that question and the talk page is the best place for it, as they are simply wanting to confirm that Victor Vance was the one killed and to check the articles validity. Besides, there is no discussion now about whether it was Victor. A-Dust 23:19, January 9, 2010 (UTC)


I'm trying to get PlayStation Network on my PS3, but I don't know how, and I was wondering if you could help me. I would really appreciate it. Thanks--Gta-mysteries 03:55, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I wish that I could help but I don't have a PS3. Chimpso 03:59, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well thanks anyway.--Gta-mysteries 04:02, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nominated for Promotion

Hi Chimpso. Your self-nomination for promotion to Staff has been accepted. Please answer the questions on GTA Wiki:Promotion/Chimpso. Good luck - Gboyers talk 22:36, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, you have been promoted directly to administrator. You can now use {{Admin}} and {{Userbox:Admin}}, and perform the admin-related Tasks. I also suggest you use {{user:gboyers/links}}. I don't expect you to be able to use all the tools straightaway, so please ask me if you'd like em to explain something, show you how something works, or tell you how we expect Admins to act. Congratulations again - Gboyers talk 09:29, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
This has come to me as a total surprise although I have to say that it is a welcome one. I had a feeling that I was going to be promoted but I never guessed a direct Admin promotion. Thank you Gboyers, I am looking forward to my new role here on GTW :) .Chimpso 09:33, May 29, 2010 (UTC)


I'm Death and will edit often. Deathsculler

  • Are you deaf (as in i can't hear)? or are you dead? BTW: These idiotic stuff have no place on Chimpso's talk page. if you will edit often show it to us. Action instead of words! Thanks Shayanshaffey 12:12, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

GTW Forum

Hey. I have created a GTW Staff Discussion Forum here. You will need to Register on TGTAP, and leave me a message on my talk page with your TGTAP username to gain access to the GTW forum. Gboyers talk 13:06, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

GTA 5 Wishlist

I know you asked Gboyers this but I can help you. If there is something like that click on the history, and then at the end erase history and put edit. They have the same URL except for the last word. This is what I did. --Gta-mysteries 10:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I honestly would not have thought of that. I have just cleaned up the wishlist, boy was it a mess! Chimpso (Talk) 10:29, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the note.

havent been on GTA Wiki in awhile

i forgot add people as friends can someone tell me?Johnnythejew 00:31, June 11, 2010 (UTC)johnny

Need Help

yo i created Western Company page cause i heard from the cops while im driving helicopters can you help expanding it tnx

Hi there chimpso I have just made an edit on the Security Cameras page and I can tell you it looks more improved than before :)Gta star gamer 22:35, June 22, 2010 (UTC) Gta star gamer


Bord called me a bitchy twice, a despicable human being, and man other things ( I'll get a link later). and I call him a SOB and an asshole and I get blocked for 5 days on BF wiki, and he gets nothing, fair, don't you think so? Peter Griffen Boy 05:06, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I figured I had to block him. I hope it was the right choice. Do you think it was because you can see everything that needs to be seen here. --Gta-mysteries 05:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I though about the final warning as well but I kept telling him swearing is not the way to go but he ignored. I guess the cod, and bf wiki Admin wasn't even part of the IRC chat. But it should stop the argument.--Gta-mysteries 05:22, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Now that I think about it, I think I'll lift the block for a final warning.--Gta-mysteries 05:26, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


hello there

i just want to say all i said is truth

Shark is 100% true,i saw it before(even in Vice city).well,nothing special. Of course you can't see it all time,i just saw one time,but it act just like dolphin,touch it and runaway

about UFO

it happen when i play on ps2 version, i was take Dennis to dance club(in LS).i drive her to a entrance of dance club. there was two ped talking,i don't care what they say.but when i get in a yellow point(point get inside the club),one of the ped say :" yesterday an UFO(or alien,i don't remember) attack my car".i just can hear that but too late,CJ get inside a dance club.when i get out,they're gone(srcipt problem)

trust me,i already saw them

about CJ ghost mom,yes,there was a clip on you tube long time ago,but it was delete

p/s: even you won't believe shark is true,so i ask you one question:

in the real life,do you ALWAYS see a shark swim in a nearby sea?

Hey, there is a logical explanation for what you said above.

1. Sharks do exist in Vice City, however they do not attack the player as the player drowns when they enter the water. They don't exist in San Andreas, they are just dolphins.

2. Did I remove the UFO thing? Sorry if I did you can re-add that.

3. We can't just have a hundred people saying that "This movie on youtube..." or "This guy said..." on the myths page, otherwise it would be the largest page on the wiki. Basically if there is no solid proof of the fact that you have presented then it should not be on the page. YOu said that the movie had been deleted, thus no evidence and so no proof.

I hope you understand why I removed these and no hard feelings :). Chimpso (Talk) 11:57, July 2, 2010 (UTC)



but you got to trust me there is already a shark in GTA SA and i saw it in my own eye.

if you don't trust me,you should find out yourself :) .i find them while i'm practice swiming(for a mission by Wuzimu).i find them near SF dock if i not wrong.

BTW.i will readd a UFO information

How come I can't say the Window Washing Platform is not a vehicle but the health pack and body armor are weapons?????? Saintsrow2fan95 08:37, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not the one who said they were weapons, have a look at Weapons in GTA IV

How come the Elavator and Window Washing Platform are not vehicles but the Subway and Sky Car are? Saintsrow2fan95 09:36, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Have you checked Weapons in Grand Theft Auto IV about the Health Pack and Body Armor yet?

I'm talking about the weapon icons at the top of the page, the only reason I added thos edits is because of the weapon icons, so it made sense.

Can I please add the stationary planes in Francis International Airport to the list of vehicles in GTA IV

How come is the Airtrain and the Andromada are on the list of aircraft?

Who thought that a Window Cleaning Platform could cause all of this

ok then

Have you read my GTA 5 wishlist sugestions (very close to the bottom)


Thanks for fixing the "problem" I made.

The Jetpack is a vehicle in the Offical Strategy Guide and both the Parachute and the Jetpack can be exited using either Y or /\. They are more of a vehicle than the Tram is. Can you please stop deleting my pages.


Hey. I saw your edit on Wade Johnson. Quick note (in case you don't know); don't forget to alphabetize character articles when categorizing the article. To do this, click on what looks like two arrows on the category bar thing. In the space below where it says "Alphabetize this article on the "_____" category page under the name:", put the surname, then a comma, then the first name. To be a bit more clear, look at the latest revision I made on Wade Johnson. Thanks. Masterpogihaha 06:57, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I made that page about the dog because I want some feedback about my suggestions on the GTA 5 wishlist

And how come did you take the brick off weapons in GTA 4

GTA IV Vehicle Problem

Hey Chimpso would you consider the skycar and subway train Vehicles? Saintsrow2fan95 just made an edit to Vehicles in GTA IV. I am not snitching on him or anything I just happen to read his talk page and I saw how you were having problems with him. --GTA4LIFE 04:20, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Everything is sorted out now, could you also please make sure that you put your comment at the bottom of the talk page. I did not know you had even commented here until I looked up the top. Thanks. Chimpso (Talk) 09:11, July 5, 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for that, and I hope you find good use of the template. --Gta-mysteries Talk 02:43, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

[edited] 2 weeks was a good length for the original block (for adding false info). However, the multiple account should be permanently blocked, and the original account could have a longer block for breaking a very serious rule (abusing multiple accounts). Problem is, if they care enough to circumvent the block once, they'll do it again - so I'd say 3 months minimum. I re-blocked the 2010 account, but left the original one at two weeks (since he didn't seem to be a spammer?). Gboyers talk 08:15, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
I edited my above response. With regards to blocking IPs, when you block a user you can see "Automatically block the last IP address used by this user, and any subsequent IP addresses they try to edit from". You should definitely do this with spammers (as you don't want them ever to come back). But with multiple accounts, if you have the main user on a short block and then permanently block the duplicate accounts, be careful not to block the IP infinitely (as that would block the main account too). A-Dust and I have an additional function where we can look at the IPs used by every user, and see if any other user has used the same IP. This is how we find duplicate accounts, but it's a heavily restricted function (given by Wikia, not us). Gboyers talk 08:27, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you remove my wanted vehicles. Gtaunited 09:44, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

What Pictures and what is so bad about the headings?

You can't say that most DS games are G/PG rated without mentioning all of the little kids games on the PS2.

The only reason the DS has G/PG games is because the PSP took over in 2005

What about Resident Evil Deadly Silence, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, Call of Duty World at War, Call of Duty Modern Warfare Mobilized, Smackdown vs Raw 2008, Smackdown vs Raw 2009, Smackdown vs Raw 2010 etc

mirkYou said all the games will be G/PG except GTA Chinatown Wars which will be MA not most

So can I remove the children statement from the Chinatown Wars Article

Can I make a table be made of the combined pages of vehicles in GTA IV, vehicles in GTA Lost & Dammed & GTA Ballad of Gay Tony

But I would like to see them combined in table form, it could be called Vehicles in the GTA IV Era

Before you delete Vehicles in the GTA IV Era, it consist of GTA 4, TBOGT & TLAD

YOU SAID everything has to be listed there when I asked to create the article

Why did you delete the Liberty City Subway, Police Maverick, Bulletproof Patriot, Bulletproof Infernus and Bulletproof Hellenbach from the list of vehicles in Chinatow Wars?

Gtaunited 03:44, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The Airtrain on list of fixed wing aircraft is static and so is the Tram in the list of vehicles in GTA San Andreas.

How come you can make an article about Special Vehicles in GTA IV and I can't make Vehicles in the GTA IV Era (vehicles in GTA IV, TLAD, TBOGT

Why don't you delete the Special Vehicles in GTA IV page then?

How come you delete a page that is requested by numerous users on the talk page of vehicles in GTA IV but you don't delete Special Vehicles in GTA IV which is nearly the same as Vehicles in GTA IV?

Yeah, but shouldn't the same apply for Unique Vehicles in GTA IV?

There are numerous request for the inclusion of the DLC vehicles in table form.

Another Reason I created the page was for people with slow computer so they didn't have yo keep swithcing between articles and wating for them to load

If I didn't know any better, I would say that you love deleting things Gtaunited 06:58, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hey why did u delete the glitch city there is proof that it is a glitch there is more that one video one youtube.

Thats fine with me and i didnt notice the ghost town page sorry if i posted it on the glitch page

No there diffrent the compound im reffering to is onne in the middle of the ocean its made out of wood and its in the mission steal the deal and in gta vice city it contains a hidden package but you have to get to it with a helicopter

Hello, yesterday I wanted to edit the part "San Fierro Missions" because says "There are 27 story missions in San Fierro", but only listed 26 missions, so that is the contradiction, "Jizzy" are two mission or one mission divided into two parts in that ultimate case you have to only change "There are 27 story missions in San Fierro" to "There are 26 story missions in San Fierro". Do you understand me what I am traying to say you?? sorry for my bad english. Javier Martínez from Argentina

Yea Jizzy would Be 1 mission


I think it would be a good idea (already had one here). Using that map would mean we could go into detail, so yeah I'd help. --Gta-mysteries Talk 01:16, July 23, 2010 (UTC)


In the Vehicles in GTA: San Andreas page it says that this is a complete list of vehicles that can be driven, ridden or controlled in GTA San Andreas, so why is the Tram included?


Ok, sorry about that. I didn't know that adding fuel to the fire was getting the kid happy. But from what I read, he was getting more pissed off. Oh well, it's done and over with. Jackass2009 22:18, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Sorry. I read the rules when I first joined the wiki and haven't since, so thanks for the refresher. Jackass2009 23:12, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Remove the Helicopter from the Vehicles in GTA Chinatown Wars page as it is a mod. Not every one has an Action Replay Device Like You.

Chinatown Wars edit war.

What are you, some kind of wise guy? - User:NT92

When you locked the GTA Chinatown Wars page, you left a bit at the top saying it is non-canon. Just checking you were aware of that. Bluesboyjr 16:19, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Eddie Low/Dialogue

Oh, no problem. It's just a little typo. Masterpogihaha 03:53, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

GTA San ANdreas Missions

Hello I think that the Mission means is to do something and in san andreas there are "7 missions" that you don't do anything, only look and listen, not progress made %, do you understand me what i am trying to say you? {{SUBST:Usuario:Javitomz/Firma 2}} 12:12, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

OK, what ever yo say.. but after King in Exile, for example, does`t appear "mission passed!" the same for the other ones First Date, Base, Gone Countring Made in Heaven an Fish in a Barrel, and when you pass Sweet & Kendl the progress made says 0,53%, that means that was for that mission, not for "Big Smoke mission". Bye...{{SUBST:Usuario:Javitomz/Firma 2}} 23:25, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


Hi, when is the next gta going to come out? and where is it going to be? Eagleped 07:16, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

JOIN THIS from Gta4bigfan

i have sucessfully created a new wiki gta fan fiction wiki. tell them to others url:

SA Images

I just now got around to posting some of said images. Here's one of the LSX. Was this what you were looking for? --Gta-mysteries Talk 06:56, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Pedestrians Dialogue 2.

Hi, err, I didn't make Pedestrians Dialogue 2, I simply edited grammatical errors that the autor of the page did.


I see that you have GTA IV for PC. Might I ask if you play online with it? There's something I need to know if you do. --Gta-mysteries Talk 11:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Living in the 90's like me? A dial-up connection is no good for online gaming (although I do play some old ones online). But for GTA IV no, sorry, I don't play online. What is the question anyways, I still may be able to help. Chimpso (Talk) 11:22, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Well I was wondering what the game lobby looked like because I was working on the multiplayer in gta iv article, and was wondering if it was the same. I small thing I know. --Gta-mysteries Talk 11:29, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Try googling it or going on the Rockstar website. You may find something there. Chimpso (Talk) 07:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)


Stop talking down to me like i am 5 yrs old. U think u own the thing just cause u are an administrator. I deleted that stuff on MY talk page because it was old, why can i not delete it, it is my talk talk page not yours. I have not blanked anything on the rest of the wiki, and im not involved in any kind of edit war, i try to correct and tidy things up on the wiki just as much as u do

Hello i am pretty new here but there is this page (Endings in GTA IV) on that page it talks about which ending was canon me and this other user have been edit warring on it and we have come to a should be is not only causing problems for me and this person but Endings in GTA IV is about the outcome of each ending not about which was canon. I think it should be removed since it does nothing but cause problems. You think you could delete it, i am just a user and i'm pretty sure that's not up to me. We have not come to a conclusion, it should not bedeleted, it is just a few clues, it is not vandalism, but this GTAFAN is adding things to it that are not really reasons, he just wishes that his version of events was right and he is putting rubbish stuff on there that doesn't make sense.

Hipogryt Warning

How Come the Airtrain is a vheicle but the Boeing 747 is not?

How come the Tram is a vehicle but the Window Cleaning Platform is not?

How Come the Health Pack and Body Armour are weapons but the brick is not?


Final Warning

It was just speculation. I did not say that one of them was canon or not. It was just a few hints to get people thinking. Edit war nowher near hundred edits dont over exagerate. When and where did we abuse other users...oh yeah nowhere. Getr ur facts straight. We were debating on his talk page not arguing. Ok, i understand, just get rid of that bit because here is no proof for either and to stop people potentially arguing about it, but it wasn't a problem until he started editing it to his biased satifaction.

New Vehicles in GTA San Andreas

I have a new vehicles in GTA San Andreas but it's just a modifications.

  • Supernova - based on AH-1 Cobra combat helicopter - replaces Hunter
  • Skymaster - based on TU-154 passenger plane - replaces AT400
  • Tsunami - based on Russian Antonov AN-224 Mriya cargo plane - replaces Andromada
  • Apocalypse - based on A-10 Warthog combat plane - replaces Rustler
  • Gatherer - based on CH-47 Chinook - replaces Leviathan
  • Crusader - based on AH-6C Littlebird (similar to Buzzard in GTA IV) - replaces Sparrow
  • Sovereign - based on Boeing 747-400 passenger jumbo jet - replaces AT400
  • Cydonia - based on Concorde supersonic jet - replaces AT400 or Shamal
  • Hurricane - based on Lockheed C-130 Hercules - replaces Beagle
  • Diamondus - based on Boeing B-52 heavy bomber - replaces Andromada or Shamal

These are my new vehicle (planes and helicopters) mod. First I install the CLEO and GXT Hook plugins, then I use FXT Editor and type on the following text.

Open the FXT Editor.

For example: - GXT-Name:GATHERR - Text:Gatherer, then open vehicles.ide file in GTA San Andreas Data folder, and type the word following GXT-Name on the 'Game name'.

Id, Model name, Txd name, Type HandlingId Game name, Anims Class

417, leviathn, leviathn, heli, LEVIATHN, GATHERR, null, ignore

--Videogamer13(talk). August 13, 2010.

Annihilator in GTA SA

I have the Annihilator from GTA IV for GTA San Andreas.

Just replace Hunter.


Annihilator for GTA SA

--Videogamer13(talk) August 13, 2010. (UTC)

Where's a Dune truck

I don't see a Dune truck at near stadium in Las Venturas. Dune is my favourite vehicle, how to obtain it?...--Videogamer13(talk). August 13, 2010 (UTC).


So, u complain to me when i delete messages on my own talk page, but when i send u a message u delete it. Qiute Hypocritical of u. FYI, that arguement was on a talk page. Why patronise me, i hope u have gone on the other guy's page and complained to him. Just stay out of conversations that dont concern u. We were debating on a talk page, we were not swearing, we were just debating different reasons for the ending. It was speculation on a talk page not a proper page. And u feel the need to butt in and tell us to stop. This is not the only thing I do u know. U are just sat there waiting for an edit so u can check it. Getalife u loser.

Tram: It must be removed

How about removing the Tram from the main table on the Vehicles in GTA San Andreas page and placing it in the See Also section?

Obtaining Andromada

Andromada is my second favorite vehicle. I can't see the Andromada on any airport but I can see it flying over the player, why it does't spawned on all 3 airports?....--Videogamer13(talk). August 14, 2010. (UTC)


I have keep the SWAT Tank in the garage after the mission End of the Line is passed but it disappeared in the garage. So how to keep it?...Videogamer13(talk). August 14, 2010. (UTC)

RE: Tram

In Saints Row 2 the train can be targetd with a heatseeking RPG, destryed and covered with Poo Just like a normal Vehicle, However, Saints Row 2 Wikidoes not define it as a vehicle because it can not be entered.

Type in Saints Row 2 Vehivles into Google, Click on the first one down and take a look.

Vehicles should only be considered vehicles if they can be entered and controlled.

Vehicles in GTA Chinatown Wars

How come did you undo all of my edits to the Vehicles in GTA Chinatown Wars page, in the disscusion you said feel free to make any cleanup changes.

It currently has the following categories

Sports, Muscles and Tuner Cars


SUVs, Trucks and Vans

Public Service

Government and Emercency





It Used to have (Thanks to you, now it does not)

Sports Cars

Muscle Cars

Tuner Cars


SUVs and Vans

Public Service










I dont need to work on my spelling, it is perfect. if it is on a talk page, im not really checking it. And as for 100+ edits, lol i thought i said don't exagerate.NT92 15:20, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

GTA 5 Wishlist

I'm sending this straight to you becasue you change every thing, How about spliiting the GTA 5 Wishlist into sections:

  • Vehicles
  • Weapons
  • Settings
  • Missions
  • Story
  • Charcters
  • Wanted Level
  • Cheat Codes
  • Misc

Also allow comenting

Check Users

Hey. You are right that we need another administrator to take on the CheckUser role from A-Dust. However, Wikia have the final decision on this due to the sensitive/private nature of users' IP addresses. I will look into this and get back to you shortly. I'm still around so just let me know if you need me to check anything - I should be more active again in a few weeks. I checked those users, and they were all from the same IP, as with several other users. They've all been banned for a long time :) Thanks for pointing them out - Gboyers talk 12:34, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Alright thanks!

Was Wondering....

If there was a guide to where cars could be found in multiplayer..? Like rare cars and how to spawn them.. (Marbelle, Rancher, Boxville, Yankee) If there isnt could i start one?Taigtafan 05:50, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Taigtafan


Started a page for taunts and made a new category. If you could put something out there to get the rest of the female fight taunts and all the males that would be nice! I tried to do as much as i could check it out! Taigtafan 05:50, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Taigtafan

Vehicles in GTA San Andreas

How come the Vehicles in GTA San Andreas can not be edited?

Hangin 23:00, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

When will it be unblocked, what kind of vandilism was placed?

How do you?

  • Create a redirect-Cable Car links to Sky Car
  • Delete a redirect-delete the Cable Car redirect for Tram
  • Delete a page-delete the wii page
  • Change the name of a page-change SWAT Tank to S.W.A.T (Vehicle)

GTA San Andreas Vehicles

Can you please unblock the vehicles in GTA San Andreas page?

Here is what my edit will look like

Sports Cars 4WD/Utility Lowriders Tuners Vans Industrial 2 Door 4 Door Trains
Service Fun Government Aircraft Boats Motorcycles Bicycles Remote Control Trailers

Hangin 03:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Fun Category

I have you know I did not add the fun category

Need help

I have installed GTA San Andreas after I have installed new Windows XP by formatting, not updating. Then I started GTA San Andreas (original by Rockstar Games and without mods) that I have installed and when I try to load and the game crashes. But my GTA San Andreas with mods loading and it works perfectly. So, I must downloading fixes. This is strange, my original version by Rockstar Games of GTA SA is start loading and it didn't work and crashes, but my GTA SA with mods is start loading and it works perfectly. --Videogamer13(talk) 09:16, September 5, 2010 (UTC).

Yes, my game is legally copied, I have installed correctly. Then I tried to start load my saved game and it crashes. But my saved game data works and I didn't have mods. I have to download mods for modding GTA SA and then I start the game again and it works perfectly. Why it is strange? my GTA SA works perfectly with mods. --Videogamer13 01:27, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
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