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==Discussion on Maria's supposed death==
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== Maria's supposed death ==
   
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::''Main article: [[/Death Discussion|Death?]]''
She dies in GTA III, she gets shot because she talks too much, Claude killed her. it isnt said that he shoots a warning shot to quiet her, it isnt even implied
 
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Because the official word from Rockstar is that "nobody knows exactly what happened", that is what the article will say. If you want to discuss the incident and provide your own opinions on what happened, go to [[/Death Discussion|this archive]].
[[User:Qwerty4965324|Qwerty4965324]] 19:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
 
==Maria's appearance==
:And neither does it say that he killed her and as there is no evidence that she is dead, we can not say for certain that she is dead. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:35, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
Is it just me or does Maria Latore look a bit like Debi Mazar the Person who voices her in GTA III.[[User:Andrew nicholson|Andrew nicholson]] 18:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
   
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==Brooklyn Bridge in Maria Latore's GTA LCS Artwork==
::Do you honestly think that [[Claude]] would risk his life, an pay 500 thousand dollars to save Maria, if he was just going to kill her for being annoying. I don't think so. It's implied that it was a warning shot, his way of telling her to shut up, because he doesn't talk. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 23:41, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
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[[File:MariaLatore-Artwork2.jpg]]
:::It's also implied that he killed her. The fact that Maria is nowhere to be found when Claude returns to his apartment in Shoreside Vale also implies that he killed her. [[User:Kevin70|Kevin70]] 13:41, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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I'm only reposting the comment I made on the [[Artworks in GTA Liberty City Stories]] talk page here because it has so far been ignored, but am I the only one who sees the Brooklyn Bridge in the background of Maria Latore's artwork from ''[[Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories]]''? It's kinda weird considering that the [[Liberty City (3D Universe)|Liberty City]] in the [[3D Universe]] doesn't even have a equivalent of the Brooklyn Bridge ([[Liberty City (HD Universe)|Libery City]] from the [[HD Universe]] does with the [[Broker Bridge]]). I also known that there's another piece of GTA LCS (vehicle artwork, that is) artwork that has the Manhattan Bridge in the background. --[[User:JCC the Alternate Historian|JCC the Alternate Historian]] ([[User talk:JCC the Alternate Historian|talk]]) 19:05, October 14, 2019 (UTC)
::::I'll say it gain: Do you honestly think that Claude would risk his life, an pay 500 thousand dollars to save Maria, if he was just going to kill her for being annoying. I don't think so. It's implied that it was a warning shot, his way of telling her to shut up, because he doesn't talk. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 20:01, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::Yes, I do. It's also implied that he killed her. She annoyed him so it's possible that he blew her brains out. The fact that Maria is nowhere to be found when Claude returns to his apartment in Shoreside Vale also implies that he killed her. [[User:Kevin70|Kevin70]] 20:52, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::::It is possible that the shot was to kill her but it is also possible that the shot was to simply shut her up. Either way, there is no evidence in the game that she was killed and Rockstar Games themselves have refused to state the reason for the shot. There is no way to be sure either way and the article, in the ''Trivia'' section, reflects this. [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:36, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::::::I know that. I'm just stating what I believe. I'm actually surprised that some people think that Maria didn't die. When I finished the game in 2002, I immediately thought that Claude killed her. Now that I think about it, I guess it is possible that he merely scared her. It's too bad that Rockstar doesn't want to end the mystery. [[User:Kevin70|Kevin70]] 21:52, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::::::The reason for Maria not returning after the end is because she has no purpose, not because she could be dead. Until the fourth era of GTA introduced Friendship Activities, main characters didn't return because they had no reason to. [[User:Grand Theft AJ|Grand Theft AJ]] 00:13, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::::::::Alright alright, I'm sorry. [[User:Kevin70|Kevin70]] 13:17, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::::::::Actually, I was reading the Rockstar FAQ a few days ago when I read this about someone asking about Marias death, the answer was: ''A shot was fired, but nobody knows what really happend''. I can't remember the link now, but I will search for it again. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' 13:46, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::::::::::It's the same link that confirmed Vic died: [http://www.rockstargames.com/news/2009/09/18/741/%28updated%29_asked_&_answered_%E2%80%93_re_vice_city_red_dead_redemption_and_chinatown_wars]. Based on the audio file, if the game didn't end with a shot fired, Maria still has more to say.--'''[[User:Spaceeinstein|Spaceeinstein]]''' 16:39, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
(undent) i really doubt if Claude gave the 500000 bucks only to save maria, i think he went there to kill catalina and take his revenge. i also doubt if maria returned to her apartment in saint marks, mainly because saint marks is leone territory and the leones would be kinda hostile to her after she betrayed salvatore. although i don't think claude killed her, most possibly he fired the gun to make her stop talking[[User:Dumbnigga94|Dumbnigga94]] 12:28, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Maria's very pretty in GTA III, more so than she is in GTA LCS...
 
 
:Hmm, about this issue concerning Maria's fate. I highly doubt Claude actually killed her, after all the trouble he went through to rescue her. But here are some possibilities as to why he fired his gun:
 
:#As stated by GTAJ above, he probably wanted her to stop talking, and he wouldn't put it into words because he doesn't talk.
 
:#They ran into a Columbian that Claude didn't kill on his way in. Not likely, but still possible.
 
:#Someone else fired the gun, possibly as an ambush that may or may not have killed Maria.
 
 
:Assuming Claude ''did'' kill her, here could be some reasons why:
 
:#For the first time, Maria stated that she loved him. Claude had a very bad track record with Catalina, and didn't want to take chances with anyone else.
 
:#Claude just wanted to get back at Catalina, and Maria happened to be there. He remembered how Maria also betrayed her husband, Salvatore, and didn't want it to happen to him.
 
:#Claude wanted to completely cut his ties with everyone he worked with. Donald Love went missing, Asuka and Kenji are dead, he is an enemy to the Leone family, and Ray Machowski has left Liberty City. It's unknown why, but maybe Claude just didn't want to kill for a living and end up in jail again.
 
:[[User:Silver Infernus|Silver Infernus]] 02:15, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 
::I think Claude killed Maria.Claude dosen't care about people.He will kill anyone with no hesitation. When Maria was talking Claude was probably like in his mind,"Will this idiot stop talking." Claude left the murder scene while cops were investigating it. Claude was the only one with a gun in his hand. It is very obvious. This website believes Maria probably got killed.{{unsigned|TV112}}
 
 
:::As long as Rockstar has left it a mystery, we have to leave it one too. We can't just jump to conclusions. This is why the articel does not say that Maria died/survived. '''''[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]]''''' ([[User Talk:Chimpso|Talk]]) 02:16, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::Okay just to let you all know, Maria's apartment is in [[Portland View]], not [[Saint Mark's]], even though she is close to there. Also my opinion to Maria's death, I agree with AJ. If Claude really wanted Catalina dead and not rescue Maria then, he would've asked [[Phil Cassidy]] for the [[Rhino|tank]] he has at his base, then blow up the whole Cartel House. And another question, because I'm confused: Why is Maria's last name Latore, instead of Leone since she married Salvatore? --[[User:Mega Sean 45|Mega Sean 45]] 12:32, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:::::Let's all be rational about this, why would Claude want to risk his life to rescue Maria, then only to turn around and kill her, I doubt he would've thought "It's only $500,000, fuck it I'll swallow it, I know what I'll do, I'll pay Catalina then I'll kill Maria '''''myself'''''." I mean if he did kill her, he must have a really short memory 'cause back in Portland she saved his life by paging him to tell him that the car was a trap, I think maybe Catalina had jumped helicopter and wanted to finish off both Maria and Claude, but Claude got to Catalina first and killed her 'cause she tried to kill him back when they went to rob that bank, I bet after that Maria decided that maybe it was time to leave Liberty City as her husband was dead, her best friend Asuka was dead, maybe she went to Francis International and moved back to Las Venturas or moved to Vice City, you never know maybe if she did, Claude would come after she had settled in and they could be together. {{unsigned|Gregallz5}}
 
 
::::::That is an interesting idea, and would make a nice fanfic. Unfortunately, I think it was as simple as Claude either shooting Maria (which I don't think he did) or shooting into the air (which I think he did). [[User:Winter Moon|Winter Moon]] 22:24, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 
 
==Maria's appearance==
 
Is it just me or does Maria Latore look a bit like Debi Mazar the Person who voices her in GTA III.[[User:Andrew nicholson|Andrew nicholson]] 18:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 08:45, 12 April 2020

Maria's supposed death

Main article: Death?

Because the official word from Rockstar is that "nobody knows exactly what happened", that is what the article will say. If you want to discuss the incident and provide your own opinions on what happened, go to this archive.

Maria's appearance

Is it just me or does Maria Latore look a bit like Debi Mazar the Person who voices her in GTA III.Andrew nicholson 18:35, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Brooklyn Bridge in Maria Latore's GTA LCS Artwork

MariaLatore-Artwork2

I'm only reposting the comment I made on the Artworks in GTA Liberty City Stories talk page here because it has so far been ignored, but am I the only one who sees the Brooklyn Bridge in the background of Maria Latore's artwork from Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories? It's kinda weird considering that the Liberty City in the 3D Universe doesn't even have a equivalent of the Brooklyn Bridge (Libery City from the HD Universe does with the Broker Bridge). I also known that there's another piece of GTA LCS (vehicle artwork, that is) artwork that has the Manhattan Bridge in the background. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 19:05, October 14, 2019 (UTC)