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This page claims that the Turismo, Cheetah and Stinger are made by Grotti both in the 3D and HD Universe, but I don't see any evidence saying that these three are made by Grotti, specially the Stinger, Grotti showed up for the first time in GTA San Andreas and the Stinger is absent in this game, so where's the source of it? Signature (talk/stalk/blog) 00:41, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, as I had discussed with Andre, as far as I can remember there is no evidence to support manufacturer association in the 3D universe for these Grotti vehicles. Happy to be proved wrong but generally speaking, named manufacturers are the exception rather than the rule in 3D universe. e.g. Willard Elegant has a billboard directly outside the Grotti showroom in GTA: SA. I'm having a close look around GTA: SA now. If anyone can supply evidence from III or Vice City we can reinstate that section to this page. smurfy (coms) 04:49, March 4, 2015 (UTC)

And years later this speculation is still on this page. I have yet to see any evidence for a manufacturer association in the 3D Universe for either the Turismo or Cheetah. In fact, previous talk seems to conclude the opposite, yet we persist with the inclusion on this page. This never occurs naturally in game, and was obviously set up with a mod. If you are going to claim that vehicles that spawn outside the showroom are Grotti vehicles, then we better add every car in GTASA, because that's what can spawn there. They are herewith removed, and anyone wanting to re-add better provide some compelling evidence. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:41, September 29, 2018 (UTC)

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