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:I really think that references clutter a page unnecessarily, make it harder to read and a lot longer. Unless we really need to prove that something is true, then there's no point. [[Canon]] states that anything that happened in a GTA game is true, and where a quote is sometimes necessary, we can take that as proof very easily. I just can't see anyone needing 99% of these references, so I see no point of having them there. And just because Wikipedia does it is not a valid reason :) - What are your thoughts on this? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 08:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:I really think that references clutter a page unnecessarily, make it harder to read and a lot longer. Unless we really need to prove that something is true, then there's no point. [[Canon]] states that anything that happened in a GTA game is true, and where a quote is sometimes necessary, we can take that as proof very easily. I just can't see anyone needing 99% of these references, so I see no point of having them there. And just because Wikipedia does it is not a valid reason :) - What are your thoughts on this? [[w:c:gta:User:Gboyers|Gboyers]] <sup>[[:w:c:gta:User_talk:Gboyers|talk]]</sup> 08:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
   
::I have always thought that references were critical in proving information to people who have not played some of the previous games. However, I do see your point that it clutters up the article when editing. Is there a way to say, for example, leave something like {{note|1}} in the text and then have the actual reference in a separate section? [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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::I have always thought that references were critical in proving information to people who have not played some of the previous games. However, I do see your point that it clutters up the article when editing. Is there a way to say, for example, leave something like <nowiki>{{note|1}}</nowiki> in the text and then have the actual reference in a separate section? [[User:A-Dust|A-Dust]] 21:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::I agree that references are a good think. But I think that it has been overdone a bit for a page so small. --[[User:Chimpso|Chimpso]] 10:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
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Are we not including the appearance of his corpse in the LCS mission [[Morgue Party Resurrection]]? You can see it in the back of the ambulance so technically he appears in the mission. [[User:Christophee|Christophee]] [[User talk:Christophee|(talk)]] 23:17, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

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References

I've just added references to this article and I was wondering whether there is a way to get <ref name=2007Q4 /> code to work, as this would limit the length of the references. Particularly since the first reference, the GTA Vice City website, is used a number of times. A-Dust 22:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I really don't think you need that many references in an article. Yes you could (if you tried) prove everything with quotes, screenshots and website links, but I don't think it is necessary unless a point is (or is likely to be) disputed. For example, Avery's name, job, mission appearances and storyline are all taken as a given - nobody can say its not true, so we don't need a reference. Even stuff like his age, his father and his hobbies/habits are not really going to be contested, so we don't need explicit proof. However (as an example) saying "Carrington is believed to be ... responsible for violent slum-clearances" is a bit less common-knowledge, so you might have a link at the bottom of the page explaining where that information is from (and only quote the link once).
I really think that references clutter a page unnecessarily, make it harder to read and a lot longer. Unless we really need to prove that something is true, then there's no point. Canon states that anything that happened in a GTA game is true, and where a quote is sometimes necessary, we can take that as proof very easily. I just can't see anyone needing 99% of these references, so I see no point of having them there. And just because Wikipedia does it is not a valid reason :) - What are your thoughts on this? Gboyers talk 08:09, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
I have always thought that references were critical in proving information to people who have not played some of the previous games. However, I do see your point that it clutters up the article when editing. Is there a way to say, for example, leave something like {{note|1}} in the text and then have the actual reference in a separate section? A-Dust 21:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree that references are a good think. But I think that it has been overdone a bit for a page so small. --Chimpso 10:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Further appearance

Are we not including the appearance of his corpse in the LCS mission Morgue Party Resurrection? You can see it in the back of the ambulance so technically he appears in the mission. Christophee (talk) 23:17, December 15, 2009 (UTC)