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Patroller limit

We have seven patrollers on this wiki, could be eight pending on Sasquatch101's request. Isn't it about time we put a limit on how many patrollers we have here? I personally think we need a new admin rather then a new patroller. Messi1983 (talk) 05:50, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't just thinking the same, I was about to propose putting you me and Tom working with a couple of the better patrollers to get them ready to be an admin. I was also thinking that if anyone gets the urge to step down as a b-crat, I think Ilan's very close to ready to step up, if not ready already. Though I don't think GTAWiki should ever have more than 3 b-crats at a time. Jeff (talk|stalk) 06:23, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

We need a new admin or two because in a couple of months time, GTA V will come out and then this place will be like rush hour on the London Underground (chaos and very very busy). If we ever needed a new B'crat, then yes, Ilan would be my first choice to be promoted. Him or Winter Moon. Messi1983 (talk) 23:09, February 5, 2013 (UTC)
Some one needs to step up from the Patroller ranks. I'd go with M.K. or myself. For me, we'll have to wait until or after March because that is when I'll be active when my computer arrives.
Mr. T. (talk) 00:29, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry I never commented on this matter. But with more and more requests coming in, we should definitely decide. Also I do agree with the Ilan thing, but he has established himself as something of a senior Admin already. Tom Talk 19:57, March 13, 2013 (UTC)

With three bureaucrats, four admins, and eight patrollers, and most of them active, I believe we do not need anymore new staff members. Only promotions that should happen is if one of our existing patrollers request adminship or if Ilan requests Bureaucratship. Messi1983 (talk) 09:48, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Inactive bureaucrats

While checking the users list, I noticed that User:Thai420 and User:GuildKnight are still flagged as bureaucrats. Thai420 hasn't been around for years, GuildKnight hasn't edited for years (she logged in in October 2012) and she's among the crew that went over to Grand Theft Wiki although she's inactive over there. Should we not worry about it or should we hold a request for demotion? Jeff (talk|stalk) 21:26, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

Nothing to worry about if they're both been inactive for ages. Messi1983 (talk) 23:04, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

On the page

Can one of the admins put the staffs colors on the page so new users know what they mean. 


Beuracrats = Baby Blue

Admins = Blue

Patrollers = Yellow

You admins should consider it.  Boomer8 (talk) 02:38, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think that would be useless, the names are already colored. Take a look.Dodo8 Talk

Singapore flag

It won't work with the Flagicon template because it isn't a .svg.

Instead, the code is [[File:SingaporeFlag.gif|20px|link=wp:Singapore]]

Monolith Patch Rain - Talk SCS Freedom 22:42, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Rain. Sam Talk 22:46, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

MarcusCheeKJ 's name is misspelled

Hey I just wanted to say something, the new Patroller, MarcusCheeKJ has his name misspelled as 'MarcusCheekKJ' in the Patroller section of the page. I can't edit this page because I'm not a staff member, so can somebody please change it? Andy Ashley (talk) 00:40, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

I meant the image for the user in the page. Andy Ashley (talk) 00:41, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out Andy, i'll report that to an admin. EagleIcon AndreEagle17 PS3 Triangle PS3 Cross PS3 Circle 00:50, July 15, 2015 (UTC)
Woah, I did not notice this... Thanks Andy, Andre & 558 for correcting this. :) MC (MyComputer) 06:56, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Oops, I just noticed that WildBrick had the same problem as me, as his avatar link is "Wildbrick142". Can an admin or b'crat change this please? MC (MyComputer) 12:34, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

That Ferrari Guy's profile pic does not link to his page when you click on it

Hey. I noticed that the profile pic for That Ferrari Guy does not link to his page like all the other profile pics for the other staff members. Can somebody change it? Or, maybe unlock this page so I can fix it? Andy A. (Talk | Contributions) 14:14, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

I'll do it now. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 14:29, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

India flag

Hey guys. I noticed that the India flag does not link to a Wikipedia page like all of the other flags. Can somebody fix it? Andy A. (Talk | Contributions) 15:45, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

Hello? Is anyone going to fix it? Andy A. (Talk | Contributions) 18:28, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

That's because it isn't a flag icon, it is just a .png image. The svg image messed up and the whole thing was corrupt. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 21:28, October 3, 2015 (UTC)

New Patroller

Sorry if it seemed chaotic, feel free to fix it. Took me a couple of minutes to add my specialties and new avatar as a result of me being a new Patroller:

Flag of Puerto Rico JohnnyD-the-VGNerd
Finding and obtaining Handling, Model and Internal names
Provide images for comparison purposes, among others
Very Active
Vehicle Specialist
No. You simply cannot have all these. They are too specific and lengthy. Look at other examples. Monk Talk 05:55, July 26, 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Yeah, I figured as such. JohnSignature 07:21, July 26, 2016 (UTC)

Demotion and repromotion

I have to bring it to your attention that you have a flaw stated in this section and I will explain why it is a flaw.

'Administrators and bureaucrats who go inactive are demoted to Patroller by policy - no community vote required' - That's all very good with one small problem. How are you going to demote a bureaucrat to patroller for inactivity when none of you have the ability to do this? The only people who can demote a bureaucrat are the bureaucrat themselves and Wikia Staff and Wikia Staff do not demote bureaucrats for inactivity unless there is community consensus and inactivity for at least a year. Messi1983 (talk) 06:29, October 1, 2016 (UTC)

The idea when I wrote that was that if we had a policy for demoting bureaucrats and followed it as it was written, we might not have had to jump through all the hoops Wikia Staff made us when we wanted to demote bureaucrats, like what happened to the guys who originally founded Bully Wiki and Bully Fanon Wiki. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:10, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
Of course, there are actually two inactive bureaucrats who were bureaucrats from before the community split - User:GuildKnight (part of the Grand Theft Wiki crew who was inactive during the community split) and User:Thai420 (who originally founded the place). Seems to me I proposed demoting them and the community voted not to. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:11, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
Oop. Seems someone doesn't really know how it now works - Wikia/Fandom Staff do demote Bureaucrats under community consensus - we had Smashbro8 demoted for inactivity - although he did ask the other bureaucrats to close it as a resignation, which, to me, would likely be the result of all bureaucratic demotions, as Staff at such a level are likely to come to terms with the demotion request and as such either demote themselves or let Wikia Staff realise, indirectly, that they don't need the rights anymore. It seems slacking and I'm aware of that, but in reality demoting bureaucrats should and does not occur often. Monk Talk 22:27, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
Jeff - The users who founded Bully Wiki and Bully Fanon Wiki were inactive for more than a year before they were demoted. Also if you remember correctly, Wikia staff asked us on Bully Fanon to keep the vote open a little longer despite votes to demote the user. Also you made that point on this wiki when there was a vote to demote me. All I am saying is they should remove 'no community vote required' when a community vote is needed.
Monk - that is not the point I am making. The point I am making is you cannot demote a bureaucrat without a community vote. Only the bureaucrat in question or Wikia staff can demote bureaucrats. Wikia staff never demote without community consensus. Messi1983 (talk) 23:14, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
I understand your point now. I'll update the page. Thanks. :) Monk Talk 23:24, October 10, 2016 (UTC)
No worries. Messi1983 (talk) 23:32, October 10, 2016 (UTC)


Just for clarification, should the patrollers who failed their probationary period be mentioned in the "Former staff" section or not? Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 09:03, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Well, they were technically staff, they served as staff, and dropped out from being staff. Perhaps a "Failed probation" tag should replace "demoted" for them. Monk Talk 09:22, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Patroller Priviliges

How did you guys give your patrollers access to protected articles and to rename them? I want to add that in my wiki, our patrollers need to access locked pages from vandals. User:Big Brother1(Text/Pevert) 19:30, July 4, 2017 (UTC)Big Brother1 

You're gonna have to contact Wikia and see if they'll accept to make the changes (use Special:Contact on your wiki). Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 20:34, July 17, 2017 (UTC)