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I'm tired of smoking, I'm tired of crack and I'm tired of doing your fucking housework! I'm free!
— Big Bear to B Dup as he punches him in the face, in Beat Down on B Dup.

Barry Thorne, more commonly known as Big Bear, is a character in the Grand Theft Auto series who appears as a supporting character in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Background[]

Big Bear is a member of the Grove Street Families and is one of the longest-serving members of the gang. Bear was apparently close to Carl Johnson's younger brother, Brian Johnson, as Bear referred to him as "Lil' Brian" during deleted dialogue between himself and CJ, which was one of the major factors of Bear's defection. Between 1987 and 1992, however, he developed a drug addiction.

Events of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas[]

Eventually, and by the time of the GTA San Andreas storyline, Bear had become the personal slave to B Dup and does household chores for him, notably cleaning the toilet. Bear had lost much respect and had turned on the Grove Street Families in order to get more drugs. However, Bear eventually physically confronts B-Dup and decides to quit taking drugs. Sweet Johnson helps Bear by taking him to rehab.

In a deleted cutscene from the mission Beat Down on B Dup, Carl Johnson would take Bear to rehab with Bear explaining how he got addicted to drugs. This would have set up a cut mission where Carl would search for Big Smoke and would need to find an informant. Bear tells Carl and Sweet about a Russian Mafia gang member who would inform Carl of Smoke's whereabouts, which would set up End of the Line.

In a similar manner to characters like Sweet or Ryder, Big Bear has a full voice set, indicating that he was meant to appear on the street (probably during a mission). His voice lines include him shouting at gang members, implying he was meant to be armed.

Appearance[]

Big Bear is seen as quite thin, with a pale face and dark brown eyes, large ears and short black hair. His clothes are an orange checkered button-down shirt, blue jeans and white sneakers.

An unused model of him named Bb can be found in the game files[1]. This other model depicts a much fatter Big Bear, with slightly differently shaped facial features, but he is wearing the same clothes although it is never used in the game. It was probably going to be used in the beta Looking for Big Smoke mission. The used Big Bear model is called Bbthin in the game files, which suggests that Big Bear would have lost or gained weight during the storyline.

There are three cutscene models for Big Bear, an unused (fat) one csbigbear, the used thin onecsbigbearthin and another unused model called csbigbear2[2]. The third model is overweight and seen wearing gray pants and a black cap under a dark green hood. This model is a recolored version of the Grove Street Families Fam1 model.

In deleted dialogue between Bear and CJ, CJ mentions how Bear's drug addiction changed his appearance, and Bear replies by saying "Best diet I've ever been on", further implying that Bear was initially overweight before his addiction.

This weight fluctuation appears to be a direct reference to his voice actor Kurt Alexander (a.k.a. Big Boy)'s battle with obesity and his duodenal switch surgery in 2003 and subsequent hospitalization which nearly resulted in his death[3].

Mission Appearances[]

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

Gallery[]

References[]

  1. Fat bb

    The unused fat Big Bear model.

  2. Csbigbear2

    The csbigbear2 model

  3. Big Boy's weight loss story.

Navigation[]

Navigation
[ ve ]Grove Street Families (3D Universe)
LeaderSean "Sweet" Johnson
MembersCarl Johnson (underboss) | Big Smoke(lieutenant, formerly) | Ryder(lieutenant; formerly) | OG Loc | B Dup (formerly) | Big Bear | Emmet | Little Weasel(formerly) | Big Devil † | Little Devil † | Tony † | Dope
AssociatesPeople: Beverly Johnson † | Kendl Johnson | Cesar Vialpando | Denise Robinson | LB | Ran Fa Li | Wu Zi Mu
Gangs: San Fierro Triads | Varrios Los Aztecas
EnemiesPeople: Big Smoke † | Eddie Pulaski † | Frank Tenpenny † | Ryder † | Little Weasel
Gangs: Ballas | C.R.A.S.H. | Los Santos Vagos | Russian Mafia | San Fierro Rifa | Loco Syndicate
FrontsEmmet's | Johnson House | Sweet Johnson's House
TurfOwn Turf: Ganton | Playa del Seville | Santa Maria Beach | Temple
Acquirable Turf: East Beach | East Los Santos | Glen Park | Idlewood | Jefferson | Las Colinas | Los Flores | Verona Beach | Vinewood | Willowfield
SetsSeville Boulevard Families | Temple Drive Families
[ ve ]Characters in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
ProtagonistCarl Johnson
Main
characters
Sean "Sweet" Johnson | Kendl Johnson | Frank Tenpenny† | Big Smoke (Melvin Harris)† | Wu Zi Mu | The Truth | Cesar Vialpando | Catalina† | Salvatore Leone† | Madd Dogg | Kent Paul | Eddie Pulaski† | Ken Rosenberg | Mike Toreno | Ryder (Lance Wilson)† | Jizzy B.† | OG Loc (Jeffrey Cross) | T-Bone Mendez† | Guppy | Zero | Maccer
Minor
characters
Andre† |Benny† | Bettina | Berkley | Big Poppa† | Bogman | Claude | Construction Foreman† | Alan Crawford† | Derek | District Attorney | Dope | Dwaine | Emmet | Freddy† | Colonel Fuhrberger | Gal | Hazer | Janitor | Jimmy Hernandez† | Jethro | Jose | Kane† | Maria Latore | Ran Fa Li | Little Bill | Little Lion† | Little Weasel† | Mike | Su Xi Mu | Ralph Pendelbury† | Marco Forelli† | Mickey† | Old Reece | Jimmy Silverman | Johnny Sindacco† | The Snakehead† | The Triad Leader | Sunny | Big Bear (Barry Thorne) | Tony | Vagos gang members (Running Dog)† | B Dup (Mark Wayne) | Mr. Whittaker | Pizza Clerk | Preacher Bishop† | Rival Pimp† | Sweet's Girlfriend | The Dossier Carrier† | The Informant† | The Journalist† | The Reporter† | Unnamed Burger Shot Employee | Unnamed Crack Whore | Gasso Employee | Alan Crawford's Female Associate† | Mafia Goon 1 | Forelli Crime Family's pilot† | C.R.A.S.H. Rookies† | Cesar's Informant | Salvatore Leone's Bodyguard | Tim† | Tammy† | Loco Low Co. Mechanic | Driving School Tutor | Ammu-Nation Clerk
GirlfriendsDenise Robinson | Millie Perkins | Helena Wankstein | Katie Zhan | Michelle Cannes | Barbara Schternvart
Radio station characters
Radio DJsForth Right MC | The Funktipus | Julio G | Johnny Lawton | Mary-Beth Maybell | Phillip Michaels | Hans Oberlander | Johnny Parkinson | James Pedeaston | Marshall Peters | Mary Phillips | Peyton Phillips | Sage | Tommy Smith
Talk show hostsMarvin Trill | Christy MacIntyre | Maurice | James Pedeaston | Mary Phillips | Peyton Phillips | Derrick Thackery | Billy Dexter† | Lazlow
Talk show guestsAdam First | The Truth | Truck Driver | Emanuel | Julie | Hector | Rick | Vivian | Mill | Mike | 632369439 | Stewart | Kevin | Montag | Zero | Jizzy B.† | Jack Howitzer | OG Loc | Cris Formage | Darius Fontaine
News broadcastingRichard Burns | Lianne Forget | Madd Dogg | Big Smoke
Radio guestsThe Truth | OG Loc (Jeffrey Cross) | Big Wayne | Darius Fontaine | Jenna Forbes | Cris Formage | Jack Howitzer | Michael Hunt | Jimmy | Fernando Martinez | Tim | Reed Tucker
Mentioned
characters
Mary Alexander | Mike Andrews | Big Devil† | Bobby | CM Pink | Joey Leone | Tommy Vercetti | James Earl Cash | Mary Ellen | Herbie | Ho Chi | Beverly Johnson† | Brian Johnson† | Carl Johnson's Father | Ah Ah Kung | LB | Little Devil† | General Mills | Tony† | Jezz Torrent | Avrindar
Other
characters
Fraser Ashley | Morgan August | G.M. Berlotti | Big Smilky | Dr. Diablo | Gern Blanston | Henry Bolt† | D. Claremont | John Craig | Mary Fortune | Frank Gold | Hammerfist | Philip K. Jones | Ed Karson | Turk Martin | Cluck Norris | Jane Pole | Brontosaurus Rex | Rochell'le | Jeremy Smith | Brian Van Ginsberg | Scott Wilson
Deleted
characters
Officer Carver | Larry | Poncho | Psycho
† denotes Deceased, Italics denotes a status determined by the player's choice
Characters in GTA San Andreas | Category:Characters in GTA San Andreas | Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas | Category:Characters
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