Talk:Duke O'Death

GTA V
For these vehicles can we label it as the "Advanced Edition" of GTA V? It will stop confusion as labelling it 8th gen of GTA V, then people may think it is the 8th GTA V game, and PS4/XBOX 1/PC will make it more grammatical. Leo68 (talk) 23:53, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

How to get it
Somebody took a picture of the first person view of the Duke OD, so, somebody can please say in the article where and how we get this beast? Everyone will the thankful ( Talk  ) 19:37, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * I found her by the Grand Senora Desert Los Santos Customs shop, south of Sandy Shores, she'll appear as a blue blip on your radar. --Wardie1993 (talk) 20:58, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Origins of the name?
About the name, the first resemblance that occurred to me was "General Lee", the Charger in the TV series and film "Dukes of Hazzard". This car feels and seems like its even nastier cousin. Am I the only one?

http://www.motoringartist.com/Dukes-of-Hazzard-General-Lee-Painting.jpg

Scorpio70 (talk) 15:07, December 19, 2014 (UTC) Scorpio70

While it looks like it due to it being based off of Dodge, its far from resembling as the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard. Due it its armored nature, its more of a vehicle from a 2008 film Death Race.   "Don't worry,  it's only collateral damage." 15:12, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I agree that "Death Race" comes to mind also and that's why I referred to it as a nastier cousin. However, if I remember correctly, there were no old Chargers among the vehicles in DR.

That's why I'm suggesting that the name is a mixture of both: DUKES of Hazzard and DEATH Race. "Duke O'Death ('of Death')" could suggest that this might be what General Lee would be like if the Duke boys took it to the Death Race. At least it's fun to imagine that situation. :D

Especially considering that the random unlocking event takes place in the countryside bearing resemblance to both wreaking havoc in the Hazzard county and the more grim events of the DR, I just can't believe the name to be purely coincidential; an (apparently) '69 Charger dressed ready for the Death Race found in the middle of hillbillies and named "Duke O'Death".

Scorpio70 (talk) 17:34, December 19, 2014 (UTC) Scorpio70

Forgot to mention the obvious: The "Dukes" car (which is what this is based on) clearly takes its name from "The Dukes of Hazzard", as stated in the trivia section. Since the DO'D has so strong "Death Race" elements, it's only logical to assume the name to be a mixture of both movies.

Name/Death race relevance
As stated above, the reference to Death Race is very clear. While the production design of Death Race did take some influence from the Mad Max interceptor, the naming and design of the DoD clearly references the Death Race implementation of the design. smurfy (coms) 04:16, March 22, 2015 (UTC)

This car has a higher than usual reversing speed
^^ trivia or performance section. Two cars driving backwards perfectly for a minute in gta online Reverse Driving Challenge, this one was the winner by a whole lot (several kilometers difference). 3ICE (talk) 17:01, July 30, 2020 (UTC)

The link to Death Race is tenuous at best.
Every single element points super heavily to Mad Max. It's much easier to make the argument that this car is based on the V8 Interceptor, for a variety of reasons, as opposed to it being a reference to a box office flop from the early 2000's.

Reasons why it's definitely supposed to be the Interceptor:

- The car has a visible engine block.

- The engine is specifically a V8. - The bugcatcher on top of the engine block is virtually identical to the iconic Interceptor. This is probably the most compelling piece of evidence.

- The interior of the car has a nitrous oxide canister, another reference to a famous line from Mad Max.

- Near identical color scheme

- Vehicle description references a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Mad Max is proabably the most iconic post-aplocalyptic film series ever, and a pioneer of the entire genre.

Reasons why the Death Race connection is completely tenuous:

- Death Race vehicles have built in weaponry. The Duke has no offensive capabilites.

- The Death Race cars do not have a visible engine block, are never specified as V8 engines, and do not reference nitrous oxide in any way.

- The bugcatcher on the Duke is near identical in shape and size to the Inteceptor. The Death Race cars do not have any bug catchers.

Anyone claiming the Death Race connection is stronger than the Mad Max connection is either being stubborn or is just plain misinformed. Changing the trivia section to reflect this. Ozeuce (talk) 02:18, September 20, 2021 (BST)
 * Almost 100% wrong, change it again and you'll be gone. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 01:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * In specific rebuttal...


 * Box office bomb vs hit.
 * Completely irrelevant to a reference validity. Case in point, the task to unlock the vehicle being based on the acclaimed box office hit Duel? (/sarcasm)
 * Weapons
 * Weaponized vehicles were not in GTA at the time of the release of the DoD. One can speculate that if it had been released recently, it most certainly would have been weaponized, but the bare fact is, there were no car weapons at the time the DoD was implemented other than the mission-only JB700.
 * Post-Apocalyptic reference. The original Death Race pre-dated Mad Max by a few years.
 * Visible engine and bugcatcher
 * Virtually all muscle cars in GTA V have that mod option, and the Dukes has had the "Highway Reaper" version since GTA IV.
 * The visible engine block and bugcatcher would substitute for the Death Race weapons which were often hood-mounted.
 * Colour scheme
 * Black, yep, just like in Death Race.
 * Missing counterpoints:
 * The exoskeleton in the DoD. Where was that on the Mad Max Interceptor again? Did not exist. Death Race had some.
 * And, last but not least:
 * Apocalypse Imperator
 * The end. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 02:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Bulletproof from rear
I added the reference to vehicle guns being ineffective as I happened to have my DoD targeted a few times in recent days, including an OPII firing almost point-blank at it from behind during a business battle - I happened to find one of the only players who hadn't put homing missiles on theirs, I guess - for nearly a full minute without significant interruption as I raced back to my nightclub and it didn't even scratch the paint! But I did later get shot out by an NPC firing at me from the side, so that weakness is definitely accurate. 23skidoo (talk) 22:28, 10 March 2022 (UTC)