User talk:Eganio

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Hey, I'm Flesh-n-Bone from wiki and nice to see you signed up to this place. --San Andreas Master 19:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I know, same reason why I joined here instead, it pisses me off a lot around there and here's much more things to use your knowledge for as a GTA player. --GTA 4 PC 19:32, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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Re. Glad to hear it. I'm wondering if you have any ideas for how we could make use of the masses of extra information, speculation and opinion everyone has that don't fit into the encyclopaedic articles? Discussion is one avenue, but is there anything else we could do? Gboyers (?) 19:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Editorials! That's perfect. Gives people a chance to write as much as they like on a subject, without it being chopped down to a couple of concise perfected paragraphs. Question is, do you think we do this per-article (Buffalo/Editorial) or per-user-per-article (Buffalo/Eganio) or per-user (User:Eganio/What I think of Lazlow) or totally independent (Editorial:What I think of Lazlow)? The last one allows collaboration between people, which IS the point of a wiki. Gboyers (?) 20:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. I agree with the informal and separate nature of the editorials, but also how it can integrate with the wiki and facilitate communication. However, what about extending normal articles? As in, just adding extra information to a page that doesn't need to go on the main article. Such as alternative walkthroughs (not just for missions, but eg how to obtain an Andromada) - surely that should be tied to the article. That could be made as a subpage, but for consistency that would be a good direction to expand the Editorials section. Any suggestions on what qualifies as an Editorial, what goes in the main article, and what doesn't go in at all? I appreciate your help. Gboyers (?) 23:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Garcia
Please do. It was deleted because it only contained. So long as it is at least a sentence, the page should definitely exist.

On another note, as we are a little short-staffed at the moment, would you want to be a sysop here? I'm quite ill at the moment, and it's only A-Dust that's going round doing any cleanup, and you seem to know what you're doing (more than most). The promotion would be on a temporary basis, until I know whether you're up to the job. Let me know - Gboyers (?) 09:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Awesome. You're now an Administrator (Sysop). The point of Admins is to keep the wiki running smoothly, deal with problems and problem members. There is a range of rights and privileges, but a lot of the time it is better to not use these, and discuss things with members. The most obvious 'powers' are the Protect, Delete and Move buttons at the top of each page, and I'm sure you can figure out what they do. You can also view previously-deleted pages (and restore them), edit protected pages (and unprotect them), rollback edits from the Diff screen (which instantly undoes everything that user did). On Special:Specialpages you will see a section at the bottom of additional tools, such as Block user, which is only to be used in the situation where a member is refusing to listen to staff, and cannot be tamed in the timescale you suspend them for.


 * This doesn't force you to be on the wiki 24/7, but with only 2 or 3 active staff, we need all the help we can get. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. And dont forget that pretty much everything is reversible. Thanks. Gboyers (?) 20:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * nb: I should also mention you have Patroller rights. In Special:Recentchanges you can see red exclamation marks next to each edit and new page that has not been 'patrolled' by a member of staff. If you view the Diff, or the link to a new page (N), you can see "Mark this edit as patrolled" or "Mark this page as patrolled" which simply removes the exclamation mark. We don't check every single edit ever (impossible) but we try and get some done as regularly as possible. In your preferences you can also automatically mark all your edits as patrolled, so we don't end up having to check up on staff. Thanks - Gboyers (?) 20:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

N is New page. You'll notice New pages don't have a diff link (cos theres nothing to compare it to), so you patrol it by clicking on the title, eg  - Gboyers (?) 21:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * That's absolutely fine. I understand your predicament entirely, as I've only been able to play a few hours of GTA IV, and so spoilers can be particularly damaging. This is one situation where I think we can rely on our members to do the legwork, since many will know what they're talking about. Patrolling is more about making sure nobodys ruining the wiki, making sure theres no spam, porn, unneccessary external links, stupid use of style etc - cleaning off that bottom layer of edits which we simply don't want. The processes of maintaining accuraccy and continuous improvement are ongoing, and often user-led. What you've been doing so far has been great, and I'd like to thank you for your help before I give you more stuff to do :)


 * As for admin jobs, there are always things that need doing. The usual way of doing things (which you dont have to follow) is to have a couple of 'pet projects' - things which you spend a lot of time working on and building up. For example, GuildKnight is rebuilding the Characters in GTA IV page, so as a one-off job she's spending a fair amount of time rebuilding it and bringing it up to scratch, then everyone can join in keeping it that way. Same with Elbarto90se and Vehicles in GTA IV. If you could find some pages for the older games that should be a lot better (and would be useful), then feel free to spend some time bringing them up to scratch.


 * As for day-to-day stuff, keep an eye on Problem Reports, and fix any problems you can see. If you aren't sure, ask on the Talk page of the article in question, or ask someone. You could maintain a presence in the IRC channel, to help any members that go there for help (I'm in there from time to time, but it's largely empty). There's ALWAYS some categorisation to do, especially under Category:Locations and Category:Businesses - stuff isnt where it should be, some stuff is missing. Categorising images is always fun, as is getting rid of Unused categories and Unused images.


 * Also keep an eye on the "jobs" categories - things like Vandals, Merge, Deletions, Deletion, Speedy Deletion, Category Deletion, Vandals, Cleanup etc etc


 * If you still have some time left, let me know. Have fun - Gboyers (?) 00:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)