User talk:Raziel Reaper



"You do realize you are reading this line right now? I mean, I can post everything that comes to my head and you'll STILL read it!. Quotes are just so fucking awesome, don't you think? Anyway, take a seat... oh, wait. This is a talk page: there are no seats! XD"

- Ilan xd.

 Talk to me if you need something to know about the series, if someone wrote wrong edits, or if you just want to say 'Hi'. 

Antagonists
So are we agreed that all four of the antagonists are classified as the main antagonists, or do you think Cheng and Stretch should be labelled secondary antagonists? Tom Talk 16:53, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree. I've listed them as secondary antagonists. Tom Talk 18:44, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe so, the only other thing I can think of is that they each killed the person they were least associated with so it would be harder to tie the murders to them. Devin tried to have Michael's family killed! I'd of liked it if Michael beat him up a little first, or maybe some of Trevor's torture? Tom Talk 18:52, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * They always find something to criticise, it wasn't that bad. You see much worse in films. And you're right, Trevor's criticism of torture was spot on. Tom Talk 19:03, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I like the fact that Trevor always put me on edge, it seemed like he was ready to kill me in a second, that made the game better - his unpredictability. Ah well, it happens, you could always vandalise the page though... Tom Talk 19:17, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * God damn morals! I'm the same though, I've only ever vandalised my schools wikipedia page! Tom Talk 19:24, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * We should be more like Trevor. I bet he'd vandalise Wikipedia articles... Tom Talk 19:27, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe so... Tom Talk 19:32, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Mara Bunta too. Gangs aren't really the focus of the game though, that's probably why there are so few. Tom Talk 19:38, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * The Mafia have virtually no LA presence, but the Russian's could have a small faction. Tom Talk 19:51, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Ilan
Sup. I've got some issues that I need help with.. can one help? Instulent (talk) 19:51, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * Erh.. I'm wondering, how many wikis do you own? Instulent (talk) 19:55, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * You know what I meant by Own... Instulent (talk) 20:00, September 22, 2013 (UTC)


 * I left my message in the wrong section, so I'm not sure if that question is aimed at me or Ilan. Tom Talk 20:03, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Good News
We're #1 and you're the best admin in the whole Wikia!! AK-28 (Talk ★ Edits) 21:04, September 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wow, this feels great! AK-28 (Talk ★ Edits) 21:08, September 22, 2013 (UTC)

Bigfoot
Hey, Ilan. Do you mind if you check the Bigfoot page for grammar errors and also add some content to it? Thanks. Also, could you create an article about The Last One mission that is unlocked after 100% completion? There's a video on the Bigfoot page. I'm logging off now, see you soon! :) Dodo8 Talk


 * I added the video and an image to "The Last One" page. Thanks for creating it. Is the Bigfoot page alright? Dodo8 Talk

Agent!
Ilan, remember that game called Agent? (the one that's never been mentioned) Look at the licence plate! It looks like Agent is still in the works. :D Instulent (talk) 17:41, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Don't you mean,Lost and Damned? So yeah, maybe a official announcement sometime in 2014? Or this year? Instulent (talk) 18:30, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ya, I bet an announcement for it in Early Spring Instulent (talk) 18:33, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Also before I forget, when are you going to transfer your User:Ilan xd/Sandbox/JohnnyK to the article? Instulent (talk) 19:09, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ah ok.. It's just I've noticed a couple of grammar errors. Don't suppose you would let me... Instulent (talk) 19:18, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Aww ok :( Which mission are you on? Instulent (talk) 19:22, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Don't spoil the game for me then! :p Instulent (talk) 19:27, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Isiah Friedlander
I did, and I killed him. Have you? Tom Talk 18:38, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't think I've spared a life yet haha. Other than Michael and Trevor that is. Tom Talk 18:42, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * It was. Neither of those options made sense, and they were poorly executed - unintentional pun. I don't understand why we got an option. Tom Talk 18:46, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Which protagonist is your favourite? Tom Talk 18:52, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * I get you. They all have different qualities. I prefer Michael - well I play as him more - just because he has the most backstory really, plus he seems like the main protagonist, he's the centre of the story. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:56, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * But it all comes back to Michael. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:03, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for any disturb but, could you guys tell me what's the name of the mission where you can kill Isiah? --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 18:19, September 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Abandonment Issues. I think. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:39, September 24, 2013 (UTC)

User Blogs
I don't know what I've done wrong, but for some reason my nlog is saying "you cannot add comments to this article", do you have any idea what I might have broken? JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:10, September 23, 2013 (UTC)


 * That was fast, thanks. I indeed take my hat off sir :) JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:16, September 23, 2013 (UTC)

Images
Rather than deleting images for not following policy, could you rename them, add licensing and message the user who uploaded the image informing them of the policy. Thanks. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 01:14, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Great. It seems to be yeah, you only need 14 out of 57 random events, I think. I'm having an issue with the submarine parts and that's it. I keep getting eaten by sharks haha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:08, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * There's more than one mission for Trevor's mum? The Epsilon missions are very strenuousness, how far have you got? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:18, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Is damaged goods the one with the drug van? I really want to tell you something about the last mission, but I don't want to spoil anything! Damn. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:23, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah. $2.1 million, you can also kill a bunch of them. Which trust me, after a certain mission in the desert, you'll want to do. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:26, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * You don't get an "official" option to do it, you just have to do it. So find out how before the mission. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:34, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes. I've just got the UFO things, and the submarine parts left to find. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:57, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Request
Hey Ilan. Could you change my staff avatar to Franklin please? Messi1983 (talk) 07:33, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * The first one. Messi1983 (talk) 10:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

O'Neil
I just replayed the mission. Elwood's the one that rings Trevor, so I'm guessing he's the boss. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:23, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Elwood
You never get a clean shot of his face, I did my best though. I also got an image of their house and some of the brothers. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 17:22, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Chop
What do you think about this? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:04, September 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know anyone that has it, so I can't confirm it either. That's the issue aha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:11, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

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Ilan, could you come into chat for a couple of minutes please Instulent (talk) 18:14, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Stub
Do you think this change is alright? Because maybe when a section needs improvement, it wouldn't make sense if the template says that the whole article is a stub. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:18, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Template:Sectstub <- I think we have such template. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 19:22, September 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * Too much better, I never saw this template before :). --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:25, September 25, 2013 (UTC)

Minor Issue with a page spotted...
Hi, there is a somewhat minor yet troubling error in the Motolov's page at the part where it mentions the locations where it can be found.

I spotted it as I was correcting another spelling error, but couldn't figure out what went missing, only where.

The affected line is:


 * Come-A-Lot, Las Venturas - At the north end of the, on the roof of the tan brick building at the southwest

As you can see, there is something missing, or maybe a sentence error. I hope you might be able to fix it, as I am not able to, due to not knowing what should or should not be there.

Alinya (talk), At Your Service! 15:20, September 26, 2013 (UTC) (Originally Nya_Chan)

Packie
Great! Make sure to replay the heists with him! I've just finished collecting submarine parts, not much left to do now. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:05, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yep, spaceship parts for some UFO hunting freak, only got 3 so far. I'd forgotten about stunt jumps! What percentage completion are you on? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:14, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * 94.5%. I just completed the last of the stangers and freaks missions - collecting the submarine parts - and it didn't increase it though, kind of odd. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:28, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * How did Epsilon go? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:28, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Some of those are very rare, after an hour or so of searching for a Double T, I gave in and googled it haha. If you find this boring, then you won't like an upcoming mission... <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:31, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Walk through the desert for 5 miles. It was even worse for me cause a cougar killed me when I'd reached 4. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:31, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's so true. I can't express how shit that mission was. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:49, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well that's my least favourite. My favourite hard to pick, from a storyline perspective, Bury the Hatchet. But from a gameplay perspective, The Third Way. What about you? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:15, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Oh The Wrap Up! Another good one, Trevor's appearance made it though. How did you like the heists? I'm a little disappointed that there aren't heist side missions, I thought there would be when increasing crew stats was mentioned, I figured it would be similar to drug wars and gang wars side missions. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:48, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * There are plenty of activities, but I'd prefer to kill a bunch of Ballas than play golf. I think R* mentioned releasing DLC - not full games like TLAD and TBOGT - so maybe there might be one which includes more stuff to do. Also, have you explored the ocean yet? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:03, September 27, 2013 (UTC)
 * Saints Row style packs - 3.99 for a car and an outfit... I'm hoping R* go for something a bit more substantial. To be honest, I think R* will neglect singleplayer and focus entirely on GTA Online. They've already made a lot of game features Online exclusives. The ocean is so detailed! But when you do explore it, don't stray too far from your boat. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:10, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's what I hated about GTA IV multiplayer, and that isn't going to change. I just want all Online features - buying safehouses, the enterable locations, heists etc. - to be available in singleplayer as well. You can kill the shark, but it's best to avoid that fight, just get on the boat and shoot it, the shark usually circles you for a bit before attacking which gives you time to get away. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:27, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * I just hope they don't prioritise Online over SP, which they seem to be doing. The thing that has always irritated me about GTA is that they lock interiors after missions, I have no idea why I can't enter Tequi-la-la - I own the fucking place! <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:35, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

GTA V vehicles
The table at Vehicles in GTA V needs a massive overhaul. The talk page lists many errors, but the page is locked. GMRE (talk) 15:32, September 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * I changed the protection of the page, you should be able to edit it. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:33, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Who protected Template: LawNav from editing. I logged in but It still said edit source.

takisas sep/27/2013 4:26PM

Thanks
Thanks for the heads up. It's a shame those stats can't be translated into something useful, I guess we'll have to wait for the PC version :/. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 15:27, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Re
Sorry about the mouth. I should have asked politly. Next time i'll ask nice without getting foul-mouthed.

Takisas 11:51AM

Pulling Favors Articles
Hey, Ilan -

I don't want to start shit with the guy if I'm overlooking some kind of style preference, but I created different, detailed articles for each of the Pulling missions.

OmegaRasengan decided to collapse them all onto one page and remove all of my pictures (without updating the links I made on the Strangers and Freaks page). Quite frankly, it looks terrible now, it's too long and it's very hard to read.

Is there any way we can get these back as separate pages again? I put a lot of work into those to have them put on one page without even discussing it with me.

I know I created one page for all the Grass Roots missions, but then those technically all had the same name, the Pulling series does not - each had a unique name. Not to mention that in Grass Roots, I made efforts to add visual queues, like pictures and colored fonts to aid quick scan reading and such.

This guy just slapped them all together and walked away.

Sorry to bitch, but like I said, I put a lot of work into those articles...

- JackFrost23 (talk) 08:27, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey dudes. I know this isn't my conversation, but I'd just like to say that he did the same with The Truth missions. I was also making a page for them all, but I was still going to leave the original mini pages (mainly because I created them). I then got told that OmegaRasengan reported me to wikia for redirecting his page into my page and other stuff. This guy is quite annoying. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 08:31, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll check the situation. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 14:23, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Scripting Stuff
Hey, I was lurking around the wiki and noticed The Tom had "Bureaucrat" next to his name, instead of the default "ADMIN", like on the profile for my home wiki. Do you know how to make custom titles like that? --The Milkman | I always deliver. 09:23, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Thought as much. Any idea exactly how I would go about doing this? The Milkman | I always deliver. 14:21, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Reply
Well, JackFrost created a very good article - Grass Roots - and the guy that isn't Vaulty (can't remember his name) assumed that that was the official page format. When Vaulty created an article which didn't match the format, the other guy - who had created the same article - contacted Wikia, who told him to talk to a GTA Wiki Staff member, to complain about him. He pretty much questioned Vaulty's credentials as an Admin based on one incident. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:27, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've restored the individual articles. I though maybe we could keep the big article, but just make it more brief and link it to the individual articles, but I'm not sure about that to be honest. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:32, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll see what Jack thinks. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:37, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Antagonists (again)
Do you think Madrazo should be classed as a secondary antagonist? He's the main antagonist at the beginning, and returns as an antagonist when his wife is kidnapped. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:51, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I get that, but he's still an antagonist. Just because they didn't feel that they needed to kill him at the end shouldn't change that. I think the ear thing happened because Michael kept describing Madrazo as a psycho, so they wanted to show that Trevor is even more of a psycho. I'm not sure about this one. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:26, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I get your point. Maybe a minor antagonist, rather than secondary antagonist? To be honest, he's kind of the victim. Michael pulls down a house - I think that Easter-European girl was his mistress so he probably owned the place. And Trevor cuts his ear off and kidnaps his wife, Michael and Trevor seem more like the antagonists in that situation. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:44, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Hey
Hey man, what's up, Ilan?

I was so lucky, this past Friday!!! I was passing by the bank near my house, on my way to school, and I found a 100€ note.

So Saturday, I FINALLY bought GTA V! What a great game! The Jackal is GREAT!

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:27, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Right?

I was so ecstatic that day!!!!!!!

Could you tell me where to find Ballas? I've took a walk down Strawberry and didn't find them yet.

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:41, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Ha! Way to go, Ilan. Way to go...haha

Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:00, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

GTA V
Hey Ilan, congats on 10,000 edits! I was reading the Grand Theft Auto V article and it really needs updating, if you have the time could you give it a go? If not I'll get round to it when I can. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 21:15, September 30, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's great mate :). <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 09:08, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Great. Have you tried Online yet? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:01, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I haven't played it. I've downloaded the update, which sadly fixes none of the sp issues. I'm leaving Online for a while, let bugs get fixed etc. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:06, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I tried the character creation thing. That was a bit of a disappointment. The "heritage" thing is a nice idea, but the character doesn't look as a high quality as the characters in the game - even NPCs. But that was just the basics, I'm sure you can unlock things which improve it. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 12:20, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
Hey Ilan. I'm glad to be (hopefully) the first to say congratulations to you for achieveing 10,000 edits on the wiki! Your gift from me is somewhere in this message (pretty easy to find). Enjoy it. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 07:22, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Your welcome, you deserve it. VaultBoy Tom (Talk | Edits) 12:04, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Endings
Hey Ilan, have you finished GTA V yet? Which ending did you chose? Plus, Wow, Congrats for the 10000th edit dude! --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 12:06, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * I would have chosen this one too. Third Way is one of the most perfect missions in the series, where all the three protagonists work together, make peace and kill all the antagonists in different ways. What I don't like about R* is, that they make obvious decisions. Almost everyone had picked up C. Just like the Dwayne-Playboy X decision in The Holland Play, which was very obvious. However, it gets really boring to me that everyone is playing GTA V in the consoles meanwhile I'm playing TLAD again on the PC. It makes me jealous but ya know, however :). --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 12:23, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Ancelotti template
Yo, how does it look like?

I'll make one for the Pegorinos tomorrow. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:45, October 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, this sounds good. I will use Italy colors for the Pegorinos. Otherwise, I don't see any gangs more with enough stuff (members, turfs, associates) to create a template. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:53, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

RE:10k
Thanks dude! :)

Character wheel
It was hard to get a decent quality one. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 20:07, October 1, 2013 (UTC)

Ages & Images
I've suddenly started to appreciate the LCPD database, every age was confirmed. Half of my edits seems to be related to date of births, and people repeatedly changing them. Also, what do you think about changing the images in the GTA V protagonists infoboxes? No other characters have artworks as the infobox image. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:12, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll keep an eye out for good image opportunities. I'll need to find one with the basic characters; no new hairstyles, facial hair, visible tattoos etc. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:41, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * I've tried a few times but the game doesn't advance. How are you finding it? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:11, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * It seems very story driven - at least at the start - how does multiplayer come into it exactly? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:25, October 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * So is the multiplayer aspect optional to an extent? Or are you thrown into a world already featuring other players? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:33, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Help?
Do you know how to complete the tutorial in GTAO? It's not letting me invite people, and I don't know what the "tutorial" is. There are jobs everywhere. The Milkman | I always deliver. 19:50, October 2, 2013 (UTC)

Reply
I've been thinking about that too. I think we should explain each character class on the characters page, like on the Red Dead Wiki. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I'll have a go at sorting out the characters page in a few hours. Rather than central, should we just say protagonists? I can't think of a central character that isn't a protagonist. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:25, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for mentioning the categorization at the Red Dead Wiki. I had to implement those descriptions because everyone kept changing a characters' tier based on their own personal preference for said character.


 * And even then I still have to change Edgar Ross back from Central to Major every now and again... :D


 * - JackFrost23 (talk) 19:32, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * So we'd list Michael as a protagonist and central character? And Weston would be an antagonist and central character? Ok. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:31, October 3, 2013 (UTC)
 * Who would you class as a central characters then? Because if we include Devin Weston, should we include Steve, and if we include Steve should we include Dave? I think listing them as main characters might be easier, otherwise we wouldn't have many main characters listed. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:34, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. I've created a sandbox. I'm unsure about where I've put some of them, so feel free to suggest any changes, I've probably missed quite a few characters out too, but I'll add more when I get back from the gym. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:49, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure the list is complete, but I may have missed some minor characters out. Have a look and let me know if you disagree with anything, I'll probably move Tao. While I've been doing this, someone else edited the article - for 2 weeks that article has been ignored, what are the odds - take a look. It's in keeping with the GTA IV Characters article, however it's not as comprehensive a list as the Red Dead style one. Maybe we could keep that style for the main to central characters, and use a standard list for the supporting and minor characters, so the article doesn't get too long. I'm not sure anyway, let me know what you think. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:57, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed. What about Mr. K? I think he should be bumped up to supporting, he's an important part of the early FIB missions. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:41, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I guess we could have a section for Online characters. Are there a lot? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:49, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I won't get this finished until tomorrow, so I'll have a think. Let me know about any other Online characters you come across. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:56, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok. It's a great game, but I couldn't justify giving it more. Vice City, San Andreas and IV are just better in my opinion. There are a lot of things that have irritated me about the game, the Online exclusives being one major issue for me. Some SP DLC and patches fixing a few issues I have could lead to me giving it a better rating. Overall I just think the game got too much hype and promised too much, it could never live up to the expectations. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:12, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

I think Vice City had the best story, followed by IV. I did like the story a lot though. Yeah, VC was the first I played, and after playing III, SA and VC again two years a go I just thought it was the best. I loved the city, story and characters of VC, I liked the 80s Miami setting a lot too. I didn't give III a rating because I played it for the first time 10 years after it was made, and I couldn't get into it. If I get round to Online I'll give it a rating I guess, but I'm not really a fan of open world multiplayer. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 19:46, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * VC was like a really good gangster film, I think that's one of the reasons I enjoyed playing it so much. I'd like GTA 6 to be set in Vice City, that or a 1970s Las Venturas, but I think R* will stick to a modern setting. Have you bought many properties in SP? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 20:30, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * Tequi-la-la has an interior with a pool table, bar and dart board, why can't they let us use it! The property management missions are making me want to just stop playing SP. The missions are so repetitive. I bought that biker bar, apparently a lot of celebs go there and paparazzi get into the bathrooms and take pictures - like at so many biker bars - and the bikers are apparently incapable of stopping the paparazzi so they call the owner who is at the other side of the map to come and knock him off his bike and get the camera. No logic. VC had much better property management missions! <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 20:41, October 3, 2013 (UTC)


 * I do want that gold club though, I just need another 130 million haha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 20:42, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

A Little Joke
Sooo...

Do you think people would find it amusing if I created a GTA:O location page for Blurry City? Just as a joke, really, not for permanent inclusion.

Or is this site completely humorless about such things?

Hell, do you even know what I'm talking about with Blurry City?

Anyone who can't get past the race tutorial will know what I mean. ;)

- JackFrost23 (talk) 19:29, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Reply
It looks like Vice President, but it's very blurred so the words aren't clear. It's definitely two words though. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:19, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * The lack of detail on his jacket makes me think it was an oversight. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:27, October 4, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nope. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 18:46, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Awards
Hey there llan,

So seeing as GTA V has been out for a little bit now, I just wanted to reach out to you and the other GTA Wiki admins about doing a Wiki Awards page/blog post for GTA V. What the heck is a Wiki Awards? It's basically a poll for the users that lets them pick out their favorite parts of the game. Here's a good example.

We generally like to get the admins of each Wiki to suggest the candidates and topics for the awards, so if you guys have any you'd like to suggest, that'd be perfect. Please let me know if you're interested in contributing, and as always thanks for all your hard work keeping the GTA Wiki going!

Michael (profile)•(talk)•(email) 19:46, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Combat Pistol
The page should be renamed to what it used to be previously: the "Combat Pistol". It is referred to as such during gameplay (except in SA, where it is called "Desert Eagle"). In GTA 5 it is not a Desert Eagle, so the page should be called by the more general name. By the way I've already made a section for GTA 5. And of course we shouldn't create a separate page for GTA 5, since the Combat Pistol is not exclusive to it. (By the way, see for example the Combat Shotgun: it is referred as such in some games, and the page is called like this, and not "SPAS-12", because it is not a SPAS in GTA IV). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 20:28, October 4, 2013 (UTC)

Percival
I wasn't finished! I still had the page open in another tab but I had to rush off for an hour! Don't think any less of me haha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:43, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * It's fine mate. I came back to it and made pretty much the same changes you did, when I clicked publish it said somebody else had edited the article! How are your finding Online? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:47, October 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * Well I got nothing but bugs and glitches, there was another update today so maybe it's all fixed now. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 16:52, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

RE: Categories
We have too many categories for pretty much everything, to sort it out is a huge job, and something which might be better to do when the Wiki is a little quieter. I'm still trying to get my head round the fact that we have "Males" and "Females" categories. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:37, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * The issue is, deleting the category isn't enough. You have to go on every single page which has the category, and remove it. That's Epsilon mission boring. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:47, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm in. Let's clean up categories. I think we need some organisation to this task, like a list of categories to eliminate etc. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:52, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Let's start with the Males/Females categories. Then sort out the vehicle ones. I can take Males if you take Females? <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:56, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * It turns out Males has 78 pages, Females has 18... I picked well! haha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 13:57, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Problems
I have a little problem. I've contributed well to the GTA Wikia but the majority of the work on the pages that I've worked on have been deleted. Why is that? The only thing which I've worked on, which is still up, is the Martin Madrazo page. I've tried contributing to the Stretch and D descriptions but the information is missing.

GreenNation (talk) 13:38, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, man. Thanks for explaining it to me. I was getting very curious as to who was removing my posts, haha. Well, what do you think about the Martin Madrazo description? It's quite a lengthy intro but as you referenced other pages, I'm not so sure about if it should be that long. Anyway, would you mind if I added more information to the "History" and "Events of GTA" section. I like to be specific and exact. It will be pretty detailed. I just don't like looking at pages with not enough text and I feel like I need to contribute, haha.

GreenNation (talk) 13:47, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Help
Ok it's alright. I'll be working in some GTA V stubs now. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 14:47, October 6, 2013 (UTC)

Race?!
This can't be a race! The Males category has almost a thousand more pages than Females!!! haha. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:48, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * I feel like this isn't fair. You hade about 300 pages to do total, I had about 1300... <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:52, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * Great. You start at the back and we'll meet in the middle. <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 14:56, October 6, 2013 (UTC)


 * If we were racing, and I had the same amount of pages to do than you - the female category has 18 pages - I'd of won. Just do you know... So yeah, I kind of win ;). <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 15:19, October 6, 2013 (UTC)