User talk:Smurfynz/Archives/2015-07

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RE : Lenny Avery Website
Hi im just want to say im not the one who edit "this website unavaliable except Extra Commission mission" Im think a player from console version experience of this problem, but in my gta v (PC) this website is avaliable anytime and even from the start of the game , so im think im jut add that this website is only avaliable outside in this mission in Next-Gen , thank for you're understanding and if this trivia nonsense , why you forget delete this trivia?, THX J_GTA

Progen
Though it was a cut manufactuer, it would be logical to think that Progen is based off Saleen as Progeny means an offspring of something meaning that the cut vehicle might have been an upgraded Dominator based off the Saleen Dominator. This is all just speculation though, but the ammount of DLC vehicles claimed to be based off the P1 is slightly worring. Rentedhitmanben (talk) 07:33, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Image Gallery (cont.)
I hope you don't mind, but I put your project images of the Banshee's quarters and views onto it's final article. I'll try my best to replicate your taken images for other vehicles. I have a few questions though:
 * Where is the location of the images? The skateboard ramps? Is it in the park near Little Seoul?
 * What did you use to take the images? Snapmatic? PSN Snapshot?
 * What requirements/specifications are needed for the "damage" view? How much damage does the car require for this image?
 * What time should the images be taken? (obvious, but necessary)

18:55, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Gang Navbox
Can you please unblock the gang navbox for patroller edits? I think its fair to add the Civil Border Patrol there. DLVIII  Talk  01:17, July 2, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you. By the way, another thing that I need to ask. I noticed that the gang navbox for GTA IV is named GTA IV Gangs, while the GTA V gang navbox is named GangNav for some reason. Can you please change the name of the latter to GTA V Gangs? For the sake of consistency. DLVIII   Talk  01:24, July 2, 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Missions in GTA Online
Would you suggest to edit the page indicating in the last box on the right saying "Removed from game"?

Docks to Stock is still available, only Docks to Stock II has been removed.

RE: Weasel Rumpo texture glitch
The photo was from my PS4 while playing single player. I used the screenshot feature on the PS4 while in first person. It interesting to note that this wasn't the only van in the game it happened too, all the other vans with this livery were glitched just like this (like parked cars and traffic). It may be possible that the glitch was added in the newest patch, however, this is just a theory of mine. Also, I will rename the photos I'll add in the future, thanks for the feedback! ApacheAH-64A (talk) 01:25, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Promotion
I completely understand where you're coming from. I too felt like you, not really needing anything other than the admin tools. The only reason I took the job is because I love the wiki and its users, and it seemed like at the time I was the only suitable user. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 21:43, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

CJ Jr.'s activity has dropped recently so I think Jamal is the best option unless you're interested, in which case we may put it to an election. Leo68 (talk) 22:17, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

Good choice, I think Marcus would be a great patroller. I can't say I'm not disappointed you're not applying because you're a great asset on this wiki, but I can understand your reasoning, especially with what Jeff said after Tom and Ilan's demotion. Leo68 (talk) 22:26, July 7, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Failed update
Yep. All works (PC, physical (RGSC) version). Can buy vehicles, just bought both weapons. 10:39, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

Delete category
Hey Sean, could you delete this category please? AndreEagle17    01:06, July 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't realize that images could have categories. I'm removing them and then i'll tell you when it's ready. EagleIcon.png AndreEagle17  PS3 Triangle.png PS3 Cross.png PS3 Circle.png 01:11, July 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * The name Sub Machine Guns is ready to be wiped out. EagleIcon.png AndreEagle17  PS3 Triangle.png PS3 Cross.png PS3 Circle.png 01:26, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

I bet the Saints Row wiki does that too. Anyway, thanks for the deletion, Rain will be happy to see that. AndreEagle17    01:34, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

T20 Active Spoiler
There is one major reason why I said the Active Spoiler has no effect. Follow this and understand how it does work: The result I saw (after several times doing this) is that the spoiler being up has no impact to the traction of the car.
 * 1) Take a T20, and figure out (roughly) what the speed to activate the Active spoiler is. Feathering it at around 1/4 throttle best allows you to count this. I found it to be around 30 mph.
 * 2) Stop the car, and keep the car at a speed right below the Active Spoiler activation point. Drive around a certain set of corners and note how the car handles them.
 * 3) Try the same set again, but this time just fast enough to activate the Active Spoiler. Here, you're noting for differences in how the car handles the corner.
 * If the car appears to be more grippy in the corners and be able to conserve speed, then the Active Spoiler has an effect and therefore functions as a spoiler.
 * If the car has no difference, then the Active Spoiler has no effect.
 * If the car has noticeable negative impacts, you are heading too fast and need to run through this again.

If you are talking about stats and purely stats, and assume that the spoiler addition is added directly into the car's traction stat, I'll say this simply. What about the other cars that have stock spoilers? They don't recieve the traction bonus of their stock spoilers, and aftermarket ones must be installed for the bonus to take place.

Another relative example to the upper point is the Burrito-Lost Burrito relation. Despite the Lost Burrito having a spoiler, it has identical performance to the normal Burrito. It's a purely vanity spoiler, and it takes a specific modification on the Gang Burrito (storeable variation) to recieve said traction increase.

The (not-so) faux Hawk 02:19, July 9, 2015 (UTC)


 * I feel like you're missing something. You are misinterpeting the whole point of the trivia. What I meant by the trivia is that the T20's vanity wing (which is ultimately is) has no effect on the car's handling whether or not it is deployed. As in, the handling of the car is not affected by the vanity wing being open or not. I'm not saying that the wing is redundant and provides no bonuses whatsoever. Eventually, someone will ask if the wing being open does affect traction (which it doesn't), and I was hoping to clarify that on the T20 page. Simplest explenation is hardware limitations: GTA V was not built in such a way to allow multiple traction values for the same vehicle. Sure, you could add a spoiler/wing/spare tyre/pile o' crap/other traction-affecting object to a car, but in that case, you are not adding a new traction value to your car; you're altering the current value.


 * I'll rephrase the trivia to the following:


 * "The T20's traction is not affected by whether or not the active spoiler is deployed."


 * I'm hoping this change seeks to meet both our sides of the argument. Rather than ranting on all day about how the T20's spoiler provides constant bonuses or not (and being unproductive/yelling at each other for no reason), let's try to re-phrase it in such a way that it could be interpeted as either providing a constant bonus, or lack thereof.


 * Such seems the way of skimming over an edit and a black-white response. When I was bureaucrat, I often saw this. Someone added some fact, it seemed wrong in some way, I undid it, *cue angry message on talk page*. Sometimes, one has to be willing to look at things not that it's good enough, or inadequate, but with tones of gray. Instead of "It's wrong *undo*", try "It's wrong, but could be made right *revise*". The (not-so) faux Hawk 05:44, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Sports team infobox
Thanks. Looks better than the first one. SWAT Cam F Dispatch  Data Files  02:00, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Promotion
Oops, I had accidentally slept when I'm thinking about whether to apply for patroller, so I must have made everybody wait... Anyway, I had decided to apply for the patroller position, just that I don't know what should I type to introduce myself? Please reply me ASAP, as I'm going on a staycation later today (such a bad timing) M C  ( My Co mp ut er ) 22:54, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Design Gallery
Thanks for taking care of some of the vehicle galleries. I haven't had much spare time to take care of this. I'll try my best to continue with some of the more important vehicles. Also, why are you placing a black rectangle over the details in the right bottom corner? Why not just crop the image like I do? 10:55, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Toro Template Layout
I didn't do that on purpose. It seems to be an error. I never intentially compressed all the fields together, must be some kind of error when altering the Infobox. 13:13, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Gallery changes (cont.)
If you don't mind, I'll take care of the design galleries of the Stinger Gt, Stinger and rest of the sports cars. i may move onto the bigger vehicles like the Police Riot and Bus later on too. 19:28, July 11, 2015 (UTC)

Also, can I ask how you get the vehicle rolled over so easily without damage. And how you open all doors (hoods, trunks, engine covers, etc) without damaging them? 19:31, July 11, 2015 (UTC)


 * Ah thanks. BTW, I just did the Police Crusier and Stinger GT design images, just so you don't end up duplicating mine. To be uploaded. Struggled to up all doors of the Police Cruiser (Interceptor), the trunk opened with ease, but the hood and rear doors weren't successful. Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 12:17, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Very true. Some have no easy way of opening them. Anyway, I think we should (each) pick a category of vehicles to work from, to avoid is duplicating on certain vehicles. It would be a shame to collide, especially when considering how much time this consumes. I'll pick my first 3 categories, I'll do: Emergency, Compacts and Coupes. Your pick! Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 12:36, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see. It's alright. So do you mind if I follow my classes I specified? Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 12:48, July 12, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry I'm taking longer than anticipated on gathering gallery images. I'm once again resting all morning for the next week after I have once again fallen on my injured leg. I booked next week in for work thinking I could get onto the job, but since I have hurt it again, I'll probably be sticking around on the wiki. I'm having trouble finding the Police Buffalo, so I might take a little longer on the emergency vehicle slot, too. Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 14:44, July 14, 2015 (UTC)
 * The Brawler IS a bitch. Even i've tried :P. Maybe you're right, record a video, and grab a screenshot as a last resort. Also, the Dozer's going to be a tough one. I'd use Franklin's ability to increase speed as much as possible, but then roll the vehicle somehow. A cargobob for easy-rolling over may help. You'd probably have to use a video capture as per mentioned, for the Dozer too, I can't see the Dozer staying upside down too long tbh. Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 14:50, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Staff Artwork
Hmmm, I think the left crop is better... Thanks for uploading it for me. M C ( My Co mp ut er ) 04:39, July 12, 2015 (UTC)

Vandal
http://gta.wikia.com/User:Game_Walkthroughs this guy has vandalised the Grand Theft Auto V page.

http://gta.wikia.com/index.php?title=Grand_Theft_Auto_V&diff=809517&oldid=808685

This is what he did. Block him please. Myth(Leave your threats here/Want to Stalk?) 12:31, July 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually while reverting Marcus beat me by a few seconds(I am cursing at my internet connection right now) Myth(Leave your threats here/Want to Stalk?) 12:44, July 13, 2015 (UTC)
 * I just gave him the warning in an attempt to stop him. You know, no offense, it is possible that he continue to vandalize before he was blocked... Anyway, thanks. ;P M C  ( My Co mp ut er ) 12:46, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Vehicle design template
I have a suggestion about the template you're adding to vehicle articles. Why not make it collapse like a navbox? It would look better on the pages. AndreEagle17    14:04, July 13, 2015 (UTC)


 * Replied (in the negative) in chat. smurfy (coms) 23:44, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Page Moves
I think the cases you and WildBrick put forward justifies why it shouldn't happen. It seems that the staff members didn't want the rename option, only the standard users wanted this as an option. Leo68 (talk) 22:25, July 13, 2015 (UTC)

Page renaming
Hey Sean, can you rename these pages to not say streets? Both streets were shown without "streets" in-game. Thanks. M C ( My Co mp ut er ) 11:57, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

GTA IV gangs navbox
Hey Sean. I decided to change the template for the GTA IV gangs to a navbox, what do you think? I think it's better looking and organized then the previous navbar. I wanted to do the same thing to the GTA V counterpart, but I don't know how to divide those gangs into specific categories. Any ideas? DLVIII  Talk  22:24, July 15, 2015 (UTC)

Design galleries
I know absolutely nothing about your project but it says that the Roosevelt has all images, while it says nothing about the Space Docker, while you got all images of it. AndreEagle17    01:52, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting that It wasn't meant to be on there I was too lazy to delete it glad you did for me!

Roof removal options (1.27 Patch)
Hello, i'm new to the wiki, so i apologize in advance for any mistake. I joined the chat due to a curiosity of mine which is provenient from this information present in the patch notes of update 1.27 of GTA V for PS4: I was informed you'd possibly test it if i brought this to your attention, i have already seem this being effective on the Banshee and Coquette Blackfin, but am unsure if it also applies for the Stinger specially, which has a topless variant. Also i believe it could be inserted in the Stinger information article if the roof removal/insertion is available.
 *  Vehicles with topless variants now have the option to add or remove the vehicle roof in Los Santos Customs. Sale prices of these vehicles have been rebalanced in line with this change. 

Thank you for reading.



IsMSX (talk) 22:46, July 17, 2015 (UTC)IsMSX





No...
If is too busy to do the work, then fine. But, my point is that these lacks rear quarter views. Nothing else. I did the same thing with the Annihilator and someone did that, and the Air Ambulance is "on the way". Is that too hard? If you take these as a "rule" and not as a "petition", then sorry for that. SWAT Cam F Dispatch  Data Files  00:09, July 18, 2015 (UTC)


 * These vehicles he pointed out really lack rear quarter views. EagleIcon.png AndreEagle17  PS3 Triangle.png PS3 Cross.png PS3 Circle.png 00:18, July 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Is it really needed? A rear quarter for a plane or helicopter? It's not like a car, where the back is hidden until you move around the vehicle. Helicopters and planes have really thin backs, which include nothing new that the front can already see. It is really unneeded. A front quarter view shows pretty much every part of the helicopter/plane, including the boom, tail, rear propellors, tail-wings, EVERYTHING. Monkeypolice188-Signature LSPD.png Loudhailer-V-render.png StunGun-GTA5-ingame.png 11:10, July 18, 2015 (UTC)

Sultan RS
Your message to my talk page completely contradicts your comments in the community noticeboard, a modified Sultan is NOT the Sultan RS. The Sultan RS has two doors, not only modifications. Also, the Sultan in GTA V handles completely different to the Sultan RS; sorry but adding GTA V to the Sultan RS infobox is wrong. AndreEagle17    01:02, July 19, 2015 (UTC)