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Voting Rules

Since voting about a change can cause arguments, here are the rules.
 * Anyone can start a topic for a community vote.
 * Please be civil when voting, and never condemn another users vote.
 * Voting usually lasts 3 to 5 days.

Staff status
The status of the staff member should be written under his name, to let any user know who to contact form staff members. A lot of wikis have done this thing, one of them is the Battlefield Wiki, see there staff.

for example: --Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  01:03, August 4, 2013 (UTC)

Adding flags to the different language GTA Wikis
I got this idea. We should add the flag icon near the name of the different language GTA Wikis.

for example:

The GTA Wiki is also available in: Español, Italiana, Português, عربية.

--Kingrhem (  Talk Edits  ) 00:10, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Votes

 * No - Dodo8 Talk
 * Yes - VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 14:24, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Seriously, why are all your projects related to the templates I created? Dodo8 Talk
 * Believe me it's nothing related to you, I saw the Polish GTA Wiki has done this thing. --Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  09:48, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you're using my template. Anyways...
 * The template is not 100% needed we can replace it with 20px flag. Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  18:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * I replaced the template with a 20px flag. Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  20:36, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Affiliations to R* games' Wikis

 * FAILED - five votes of 'No', and only four votes of 'Yes'. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 05:43, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

This is a big project, like Rockstar Games has been developing games for more than ten years, Rockstar made a lot of fans around the world. Most of the users here on the GTA Wikia integrate with other Wikis too, most of them are from R* games. I'm giving the idea, that we should make affiliations to Wikis that are from Rockstar content. They are so good like us and most of our users, even Staff members, contribute to those Wikis, I'm proposing, that we should show our loyalty to these Wikis and that will maybe make us more noted by the other Wikis. The proposes are the Max Payne Wiki, Red Dead Wiki, Rockstar Games Wiki, L.A Noire Wiki, Bully Wiki, Manhunt Wiki and Midnight Club Wiki.


 * Note : If you want to strike one of the Wikis that you disagree with affiliation or you find not good or elevated, comment in the comments section and maybe we can create an extra discussion page for it. So let's show that we are a graceful Wiki and we want to show generosity to other R* Games too.

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 18:59, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Votes

 * Yes - Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Dodo8 Talk
 * No - Cloudkit01 (talk) 20:05, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Boomer8 (talk) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Messi1983 (talk) 12:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * No (for most of them [read my comment]) - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 14:40, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes (for most of them) -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * This is a great idea. We should affiliate with each one of them. --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:10, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think I'm changing my mind we should affiliate with R* games wiki only because we have a lot of shared articles with R* wiki. --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:09, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on affiliating with only R* produced games. I love the idea of linking up all the R* games wikis as that will create a great network for fans to easily navigate from on to another. Great proposal of killing seven birds with on stone. Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:03, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * This would attract new users to the GTA Wiki and the same to others. It's a win-win situation.  Boomer8 (talk) 04:27, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * All my prior comments about 'affiliated wikis' stand. Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:32, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Wait, wait. All the R* Wikis? I thought it's the actual Rockstar Wiki (the text was too long to read). It's a No from me. Dodo8   Talk 
 * The Rockstar Games Wiki, is OK, since it's run by Ilan and Bunny, but the rest, I'm not sure... - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 14:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * The Max Payne Wiki and the Red Dead Wiki are also okay. I serve as an admin on both.
 * Hmm...sometimes I go to Red Dead and L. A. Noire, but not usually to Max Payne...are you sure? - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like most of the people accept only an affiliation the with Rockstar Games Wiki. I'll wait a little more and see what we can do. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 14:57, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, only Rockstar Games Wiki. Dodo8 Talk
 * Yes for Rockstar Games, Max Payne, Red Dead and L.A.Noire. No for the others. Manhunt Wiki is a fucking disaster and has no active admins and/or useful editors. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 07:00, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * What about the Agent Wiki, Ilan? - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 17:54, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
 * This Noticeboard is getting a little bit dusty, isn't? --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 22:39, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

New Templates (Inactive staff members)

 * FAILED - six votes of 'No' and only two votes of 'Yes'. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 05:41, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

I have created template for inactive staff members, and I hope you count them as official templates

-Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 23:59, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Votes

 * Yes (with a sprinkle of No) -- The Tyrannical T (talk) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes (with a notice) --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Not Really... - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Dodo8 Talk
 * No - Cloudkit01 (talk) 19:27, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Boomer8 (talk) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * No - Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:33, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * I agree with adding it, but most of us just state reasons why we are inactive so the users' acquaintances won't worry on what he/she/it is inactive for. --The Tyrannical T (talk) 00:18, July 20, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice idea Rhem. I completely agree with it. I just want to notice it that this template should be locked and only staff members can use it if they become inactive. Actually I think too that the normal templates for B'cat, admin and patroller should be locked too. BTW it is possible to lock a template? --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 11:14, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Only admins can lock templates -- Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 16:01, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Although the votes have all been positive so far, I think there should be at least 5 votes before closing this. If the templates are approved, I'll lock them. I, myself, think that adding a note to the talk page would get the job done, but I think it'd be best if we waited for (at least) three more votes. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:25, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * I created this one a while ago: Template:Semi-Active. And no offense intended, but don't call yourself a template expert when everything you did was to change the text. Dodo8 Talk


 * I have an idea but the original staff templates have to be unlocked --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 23:49, July 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * @Cloud as much I love 'fuck no' votes, I'm changing it to 'No'. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 19:38, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Can any active admin unlock staff templates, I won't vandal them. --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 23:57, July 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Why do you want them unprotected? Tom Talk 10:00, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Just unlock them it's a new idea non of the wikis have tried this, for examble

or

gives the normal Admin template

and

gives


 * Nope. Dodo8 Talk


 * Why nope? --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 15:40, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I already told you, check Template:Semi-Active. And it looks much better. Dodo8 Talk


 * Your template gives the reason why the staff member is inactive, I can do that in the same template as the staff member, but the templates are still locked :( --Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 16:03, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * I prefer Dodo's template. It's cleaner and you can give your own reason why you're not on the wiki.  Boomer8 (talk) 04:51, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
 * There really is no point with this inactive template proposal, as it will encourage inactivity, which is currently a problem on the wiki. Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:07, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

GTA Wiki:Manual of Style/Weapons
I created this page, and I hope you count it as an official manual of style. I know it's still not done yet, but I'm still working on it.
 * Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 16:03, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * Rhem, there's a problem: this page already existed, Tony created it. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:20, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * You decide which one to take, maybe we should have a community voting to decide which manual to take - <font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 20:28, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure which to choose...they are very like, one another. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 20:30, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Rhem, you are obligated to import your added content that my page is lacking to my created MoS/W. The Tyrannical T (talk) 00:14, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Featured articles system

 * Passed ; 10 votes of 'Yes' and no votes of 'No' -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 12:07, July 25, 2013 (UTC)


 * Previous discussion on the subject

So yes, I'm bringing this subject again, as it seems we have forgotten about. My one question for now is, do you want such feature on our wiki or not?

Yes, I know we need 'Manuals of Style' for several articles categories such as characters, missions, buisnesses, gangs/groups and a few more. No need for vehicles, J created one.

If you have any suggestions, post them here.


 * -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 16:24, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Votes

 * Yes - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 16:35, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 16:40, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Dodo8 Talk
 * Yes - <font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Sasquatch101 (talk) 01:56, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Messi1983 (talk) 07:12, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - <font size="+1.5" face="Trajan Pro">Tom Talk 10:02, July 22, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Boomer8 (talk) 04:28, July 24, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:34, July 24, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think we could use those "Manuals of Style", and since GTA V is just around the corner, we could use with some guides that could help more un-experienced users (of course, the more experienced ones would follow the guides themselves, too). - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 16:38, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it would help readers if the articles for a certain discipline (i.e character, business) had a similar structure, so they can find information easily and conveniently, this is one benefit of having manuals of style. In order to help editors, having one over arching MoS that then contains links to more specific ones, sort of like this (but more complete obviously) could help. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 16:48, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes of course, in each discipline/type this system should be followed, principally by missions. I see often the Trivia after the Video Walkthrough and etc... A order like =1. Mission, 2. Mission Objectives, 3. Reward, 4. Trivia, 5. Video W., 6. See also (References and link to detailed page of mission walkthrough) for example. And of course this Manual should be included in the Welcome Template. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 17:11, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, T had already proposed that, I think he even created the template. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 17:15, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Two weeks ago I offered to help him, but he said he would do it by himself soon... Whenever that is. Dodo8 Talk

Dodo8 Talk
 * Also, I think next to the featured articles we should add a link to the BAWSAQ page. I could create a template to make it look like interactive (profit increses, decreases, etc.) These would be random but will look good and users will also be able to read about businesses in GTA V through the BAWSAQ page. Opinions? Dodo8 Talk
 * Perfect idea, Mr. Financial hahahaha --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 20:06, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Good! I'll start working on the template! Dodo8 Talk
 * This is how it will look:


 * I think this wiki should have both featured articles and manual of style. <font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem Talk or Don't talk 19:42, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for not being around and not keeping my promises, I'm not active everyday, due to no Internet connection at my residence. For the Template:Welcome, I wrote the coding of a boarder outline on a piece of paper, which I keep on forgetting when I go to my town's public library once every week. And for the core Manual of Style; I'm working on it using paper. Once I learn to not forget my papers, I write the template coding on my Sandbox page and test it, whilist the MoS will be on here, the Community Noticeboard. Mr. T., That&#39;s Me! (talk) 23:53, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll start working on a manual of style for the character pages, then I'll move to the missions. Someone wanna take the business pages? -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 07:08, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * I could take a look at the business articles that we have now and maybe draft up an MoS for businesses? If we are going to have an MoS for weapons I would prefer to do that. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 07:37, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * You could take Fruit Computers in HD Universe asa an example for the Manual of Style, it's the most complete business page in my opinion. Dodo8 Talk
 * I'll take the gangs then. Just a question, should I make it only for the gangs, or the gangs AND the groups in the same MoS.?- Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 14:51, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
 * May I help for the gangs too? That's the one where I have more experience, I think.
 * Alright, I'll start working on it tomorrow, but the page is already created. If you could start adding info, I'd be thankful, Thomas. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 13:18, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
 * I gave my idea for the neighborhoods' MoS, check Ilan's talk page. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 23:32, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to the entire community
This for once is not a voting matter, but an act of pure gratitude to the entire community. After notifying everyone of my holiday and absence the response was truly heart-warming. After reading all the comments I almost had a tear in my eye at how strong our community stands and how friendly and understanding our community is. Honestly, I don't know of an internet community that I'm as proud to be a part of as the GTA Wiki community. Thank you everyone. (My internet allowance is running thin now, so I'll probably be limited to one edit a week now at most :/) JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:03, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Votes

 * You're welcome! - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:23, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Banana Instulent (talk) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Comments

 * How's it going there, all good, JB (except for your internet connection, which I've already realized is clearly not) ? :) - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:25, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * No need to thank us Jonny :) Everyone is always looking out for everyone here.. thinking about it now, the GTAWiki is a rare breed :p Instulent (talk) 19:34, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
 * Instu, I could say giggity to the breeding section of that so much! Also, have fun JB! VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 14:30, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
 * We (the GTA Community) know that we are simply very greatful to good editors. You are a very nice admin and your edits here will be missing. BTW me and Instu, we will keep an eye in the users who are messing up the vehicle pages ;) --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 14:46, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Warning and block templates
Now, this template idea I've come up with would benefit patrollers mostly. Lately, when such a patroller gives a user a warning most say I'm going to tell a admin on you etc and to me it sounds childish and not very professional but with this template, it's not only professional but it's a smart way to carry out such things. I've done a rough copy of the template seen down below. Let me know what you think down below. Cheers Instulent (talk) 19:02, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Warning
''' Template created with my help. '''

produces:
 * Usage Example

Dodo8 Talk

Block
''' Second template created. '''

produces:
 * Usage Example;

Votes

 * Yes --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Messi1983 (talk) 20:11, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 21:10, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 09:19, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * YES - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 11:06, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes - Cloudkit01 (talk) 14:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Comments
for example:
 * I agree, but this template should have colors like red and yellow to give it a nice look. --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  19:46, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not meant to be nice and cute.. it's serves a purpose to tell people what right and what's wrong. BTW Thanks Dodo for helping :) Instulent (talk) 20:08, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * The red color resembles warning messages, haven't you saw any stop or warning messages on the street? --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  20:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but red to me seems like block. It's a warning to the user so I think yellow would fit perfectly. Instulent (talk) 20:19, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Change "denying the policy" to "violation of policy". Messi1983 (talk) 20:13, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree, but this template should be given in certain occasions. If a user (vandal) remove all the content from pages repetitively, then he should be blocked without warning. If he adds false information, messes up infobox and templates or has intolerant edits or something in this type, he should receive this template. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 21:14, August 1, 2013 (UTC)
 * I've changed the color of the border to yellow, and I have also replaced "denying" with "violating". I was thinking we should have a "Blocked" template too, where the vandal will be informed that he was blocked. Dodo8 Talk
 * I love the idea of it. Just one thing you need to change though. Instead of it saying "If you will repeat", it should just say "If you repeat". Good work though! VaultBoy Tom (Talk to me this way) 09:21, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. I also added the "block" template. Dodo8 Talk
 * This template or both template needs section which rule did the user violated. For example this user violated offcial policy for adding sexuall content, but he/she needs to know which rule did he/she breake.

<div style="border:2px solid #fddc00; padding:7px; margin-top:6px; -moz-border-radius:5px; -webkit-border-radius:5px;"> You have been warned for violating the policy. If you repeat your actions, you will be issued with a block. Given reason: Violating  Vilotaed rule:  Issued by:


 * THAT IS THE POINT OF "GIVEN REASON"'. And try to correct your grammar mistakes, there are plenty. Dodo8 Talk
 * Agreeing with Dodo, what is the point of adding that when it's already stated on the top line? Instulent (talk) 10:26, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * You can drop that point but the full reason should be given. --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  10:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the reason is given in the Given reason section.. Instulent (talk) 10:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * It should be full, like this:
 * Given reason: Violating . --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem 11:10, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * That was just an example, that's how it was supposed to look from the start. You started an useless topic, Kingrhem. And it's "sexual", not "sexuall". See the warning I left to this user who violated the policy. Dodo8 Talk
 * Look, if I wrote words with wrong grammar, that because of either being haungry, sleepy or have to hurry up, at the time I had all three reasons. --<font face= "Impact" >Kingrhem  (Talk) (Edits)  18:27, August 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * Nice, both templates. I just think there should be a different template exclusive for image policy, because it's a different case where most of new users still not understanding. If he violates the image policy, he should receive the image policy template, if repeated, the warning template. Actually I think that new users will feel a little afraid if they are threatened with a block because of image policy. BTW could you guys check my new gallery? :D --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 12:28, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thomas, that's what the warning template is for.. ;) Instulent (talk) 19:16, August 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with the idea. But the argument above was rather silly... - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 18:55, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * It was not silly because image policy is an error that every new user does at the begin. This happens more than two or three times and it would be a little bit rude if we block someone for such a thing without a right and clear information. We are encouraging users to continue editing, and not block them directly for things they don't know. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:11, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * First of, Thomas, bullet your comments. Secondly, I think you are a bit confuse: "argument" in english also means "zanga, discussão" in portuguese, whereas "argumento" in portuguese means "point" (as in "That's a good point"). I'm not talking about what you said, OK. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:22, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Understood. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:33, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * Boa. :) - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)