User talk:McJeff/Archive 12

Retirement
Old man, you're retiring?! :o

Thank you for all those months (years?) of helping and leading this community!

Good luck with whatever you'll choose to do next!

-- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 07:48, April 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Jeff, you're retiring? :( I can not find words to thank you because you have chosen to promote me. This took me by surprise, as I haven't been active in the last couple of months, due to learning for the important exams I'll take this year. I hope you won't leave the wiki definetely. Thanks again. Cheers. Dodo8 Talk  08:17, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Farewell
Hey Jeff I just noticed that you resigned from b'crat. You were always a fair guy and kept the wiki running right. I respect your selfless decision to step down and hope you will still be present around the wiki. Sasquatch101 (talk) 04:16, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Promotion
Hey Jeff. Could you vote on my request at GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion. Thank you. Sasquatch101 (talk) 22:21, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Honest Opinion
I completely agree, I was going to remove it initially but Sasquatch is taking everything I do at the moment as a personal attack so I was trying to find some middle ground. He has this idea that I hate him, which isn't true, I just don't like the way he went about trying to get promoted, or the way he reacted to my opinions on that.

I didn't know Boomer had done this before, that changes things. Did you see his reason for initially giving a no to Smashbro's request for promotion? Because Smashbro is a Saints Row fan. Anyway, I'll give him a warning and see how he reacts. This whole extra admin thing started because the more inexperienced users had never had to deal with a vandal before. I can't get over the fact that they voted yes to Sasquatch's request for promotion - which I removed - just because he's in America and said he could be active at that time. Being in a certain timezone is not a valid reason to be promoted, as I'm sure you'll agree. They can't seem to accept that being able to block a user will only stop a persistent vandal for a minute while they get a new account. Going to Wikia - which they ended up doing - is exactly what we end up doing anyway.

Thanks for giving your opinion mate, it's always valued. Tom Talk 09:29, May 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem, I had no idea that that was even possible. Tom Talk 17:25, May 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Alright, cheers. How exactly does it work? Like, how does it tell if a user is a vandal? Tom Talk 18:18, May 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * If I explained in public, he might figure out a way around it. If you've got email I can explain that way. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:38, May 3, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sent. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:35, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Sasquatch's Block
I know you and me have had our differences but you must agree that an infinite block for Sasquatch is absolutely insane. He was a great editor here and just because of one run in with Tom should never warrant that. I just can't come to understand how he can get the same punishment as a vandal. Boomer8 (talk) 02:20, May 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * The only thing Tom did differently than I would have is I'd have only blocked Sasquatch for 2 weeks initially instead of for a month. Sasquatch received two blocks during the incident with Dodo8 for personal attacks and incivility, this was his third offense and it was a severe one.


 * I keep explaining that when it comes to malicious behavior, I don't care as much about the words used so much as about the intent. In intent, Sasquatch's behavior on GTA Myths Wiki was every bit as bad as the vandal's behavior on this wiki.


 * I'm aware that you have always supported Sasquatch uncritically (you were the only person to vote 'yes' on him in the administrator election) and that you're probably incapable of viewing this situation objectively, so I won't be discussing it any further.


 * Lastly, I'm not staff here anymore. I only came back to try to get Wikia to set up the abuse filters. If you really think Tom was that abusive and out of line, take it to Messi or Ilan, not me. Even if I completely agreed with you, I wouldn't be able to help. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:12, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Boomer
I think he just needs to cool off and try and look at everything objectively. Tom Talk 09:00, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Abuse Filters
Great, thanks for that.

I completely agree with that block, his resignation rant was the last straw. Him resigning has probably just saved me having to go through the demotion process again, he's completely out of line. He might believe that all he's doing is sticking up for the little man but his language makes it an attack, his ignorant and compeltely biased rants against us were just ridiculous.

I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks for everything mate. Tom Talk 16:35, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

I Apologize
Hey McJeff. I apologize for all that. I was actually just inviting him to my wiki (Wii Wiki) because I didn't want to cause trouble on the wiki. That's why I'm not really hesitating to tell The Tom about what Sasquatch wants him to do for him. I've read the policies and I won't do it again. 19:12, May 7, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Grand Theft Wiki
We had a discussion about them few months ago, but I've just found that one administrator of the GTW, IanPhoenix, is plagiarizing content. He is copying tons of pages from us and creating the plagiarized pages on GTW. He has been doing this for a good time and nobody noticed it. He has not been recently promoted so as an admin of their website he needs to know that both sites have history and this kind of conversation of plagiarizing content and other rivalry issues between both wikis was controlled and organized a long time ago. As an administrator of our site, I would try to figure out things with him, calmly. But as you're the most ideal person to handle with it, and in case if you need to contact Gboyers (if he's still living) again, I came to you with the problem. Thanks. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 16:49, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Grand Theft Wiki is 98% dead. I don't like it, but I don't see that it's doing enough harm to be worth the hassle trying to make them stop. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:17, May 14, 2014 (UTC)


 * Sure they are dead. To be honest, I liked the fact that he gives at least the source of the article, the GTA Wiki. But it would sound a little bit unsatisfied after the users here work hard to write an article and the guys at GTW just have to do that simple copy-and-paste job. Well, I don't have nothing against it, but I think some users here would have. Anyway, there's really no harm. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 20:13, May 14, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
Seen it. I've protected Sasquatch's talk page here, and I'll keep an eye on that Brandon-guy's edits. As it is currently midnight here in Israel, I'll join this discussion first thing in morning. -- ILan ( XD &bull; Edits &bull; Home ) 19:55, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE:
I've warned him and he seems to have stopped, I figured something happened between him and Sasquatch, but to me he just seems like a new user who has no idea what he's doing. Tom Talk 21:25, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

RE: 3 Things
They're both blocked. 187 videos... You don't happen to know of a mass deletion tool do you?

A Myths Wiki admin complained about Sasquatch to me, so I'll see if that issue is resolved before unblocking him.

Thanks for letting me know. Tom Talk 16:38, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I Need Your Opinion
Hey McJeff. Can you answer this question I have? It is okay on Wikia for other users to make fun of and laugh (joking or not joking) of users? Would that be considered cyberbulling? I asked you because I feel you would know the answer and you are a very wise person when it comes to Wikia and how it works. Thanks! 00:19, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * It's probably not okay, but you'll have to give me more information about what's going on before I can really answer. Who's saying what about who? Jeff (talk·stalk) 01:05, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's not here. It's on another wiki that I'm a rollback on and this user and another user who joined cyberbullied me, and one admin believed it was okay for them to "troll" and make fun of me. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 02:17, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * If an administrator of another wiki is openly encouraging other users to mistreat you, the thing to do is use Special:Contact on THAT wiki and explain to Wikia Staff. If you'd tell me which wiki and what happened, I might be able to give better advice.


 * The thing is, Wikia doesn't usually get involved when the problem with a wiki is incivility/"cyberbullying" by staff or general incompetence on the part of a wiki's staff. There's a couple wikis on Wikia that I would contribute to but don't because of unpleasant staff. It's just the way Wikia is. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * So honestly, say a staff member on any of the wikis you edit on, including here, gets insulted by a regular user or group of users and the admins think it is funny. How would you handle that situation cause that's what I had to put up with on another wiki that I'm a rollback user on. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 04:18, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * I've asked twice for you to tell me which wiki this is taking place on. Jeff (talk·stalk) 15:54, June 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh I'm so sorry! I didn't notice you were asking me that. It's on the Watch Dogs Wiki. I was cyber bullied or made fun of on a chat though. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:02, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * In chat? That makes it tougher to deal with because if it's on the wiki, you can prove it via 'difs' and complain to Community Central.
 * If you don't have proof, the only thing you can do is tell a bureaucrat and hope he listens. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:10, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * That's the problem. The bureaucrats were in the chat, and one of them found it funny that these two users were making fun of me when they should have been blocked. Plus, they disrespected me, and other staff and users. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:24, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * Well, I'm sorry I can't give you an answer that doesn't suck, but if that's the situation there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. I suggest not editing on that wiki anymore. Remember that someone being a bureaucrat doesn't automatically mean they know what they're doing - any newb with an idea for a new wiki can become a bureaucrat and some of them don't know how to edit or treat their users right. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:49, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Don't feel bad. I really appreciate you helping me out with the situation. Best thing to do is to forget it and just do what I have to do there as a rollback. Thanks a lot for your help McJeff! See you around soon! [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 16:53, June 10, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8

Stepping Down?
Any reason why you're stepping down as Bureaucrat? Had no idea. Leon Davis (talk) 04:25, June 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's all on my user page. Jeff (talk·stalk) 15:52, June 10, 2014 (UTC)

Help
Hey McJeff. I need your help again, but it's not based on what happened last time. Recently on the Watch Dogs Wiki, I fought a vandal attack that was almost exactly like the one with Insidious, aka JoshuaLeverburg, on this wiki. I remembered that you and Wikia were trying to create these abuse filters to automatically block vandals so I have two questions. Do those filters still work on this wiki? Also, if so, is there a way to add them to the Watch Dogs Wiki? Thanks! 01:10, June 17, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * To use vandalism filters, you have to have Wikia staff activate them - they're turned off by default. My recommendation is to use http://watchdogs.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact and explain to them the kind of vandalism you're dealing with.  Since that editor likes to create useless pages, you may ask Wikia if they will disable page creation for "new and unregistered" editors. Ask them to enable the "default anti-vandalism filters" too.  Be sure to link them to this thread so they can see the vandal's threats in its own words. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:33, June 17, 2014 (UTC)

GTA Myths Wiki
I've looked at the past arguements over on the other wiki, and it appears that the co-bureaucrat has not only abused his powers, like conspiring to have Sasquatch taken down and other users banned for no reason. As it stands, in the last few hours, the co-leader has stood down, and some blocked users have been reinstated, while others have been reinstated, but there were other users who were banned at the same time, so I don't see why only one of his followers should be banned here, it might go further than that, until now, I'd wait and see until the bureaucrats talk mention it. Leo68 (talk) 04:35, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

Resoloution
AK-28 will be standing down, so where does this leave RageQuit's promotion request? Leo68 (talk) 22:09, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * It's up to the community. RageQuit has apologized in general and says he was tricked, and according to others he was only going along with it not totally into it like the other 3. I'd say whether he apologizes directly to Boomer and Sasquatch has a lot to do with how I feel about his promotion. But my opinions shouldn't influence anyone else's unduly. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:19, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Well Tom has extended the voting period, and other users have changed their vote to no, or like myself, not voting, but we are now down a Patroller, so we should maybe do a community post about the next patroller if he doesn't get the position. Leo68 (talk) 22:27, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just because there's a spot available for someone to be promoted into doesn't mean we have to rush to fill it. That's how guys like AK-28 get promoted in the first place. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:43, August 17, 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I left a message on Tom's page. Leo68 (talk) 22:47, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Promotion board
I've voted; I also extended the voting on RageQuit's request. I've worried about that kind of thing for a while, but more in regards to voting manipulation than taking control of the Wiki. That was an embarrassing attempt to take control though, I mean blocking a bureaucrat as if they can't just unblock themselves... Wow. Tom Talk 13:29, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Is there any truth to Sasquatch removing community votes? Gunshow told me about it a while back but then he told me you were sorting it. Tom Talk 20:28, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes Sasquatch removed votes, but you or I would have probably removed those votes if it had been happened on a wiki we were running. What happened was that a user on GTAMythsWiki named TheAverageAnarchist started a demotion vote against Boomer. A bunch of people voted 'demote' including one guy who hadn't edited for a year and one guy who'd never edited at all, and then Gunshow declared the vote closed 1 day later instead of waiting a week like the rules said to. I was working out one of those timelines like I did for the Dodo/Sasquatch dispute - I probably won't finish it since the incident seems to mostly be over - but it's at w:c:gta-myths:User:McJeff/Timeline. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:44, August 17, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Well that's fair enough. Thanks for linking the timeline, that answers a lot of questions. Tom Talk 20:48, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

Gunshow2 should be blocked here or across wikia
Vaultboy just revealed even more sick shit Gunshow was saying about me but this time it dives to a hatefull racist antisemetic level. There was also a users Boomer block that kept calling him a N**ger but Gunshow kept unblocking or shortening his block. This guy Gunshow is very dangerous to have around here along with his followers. LOOK HERE ->

Sasquatch101 (talk) 21:39, August 17, 2014 (UTC)

Abuse Filter change
I made a slight change to your Special:AbuseFilter/1. Blocking the user and stripping auto-confirmed status with such a broad filter like this should be avoided. I changed it to simply prevent the edit. This allows users to contact you if they are getting blocked in error. I also added the edit by FoWeQi as it was a good faith edit. In turn, I also unblocked the user. Please let me know if you have any issues with this here, on my talk page, on Community Central or Special:Contact (if you want it private). Rappy 19:12, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Abuse filter
I see; let me know if you need rights temporarily to adjust it or anything. Tom Talk 16:46, August 20, 2014 (UTC)

RFP
Hey, I've made an RFP, can you please swing by and vote. smurfy (coms) 23:51, January 4, 2015 (UTC)

People leaving
I had to agree with everything you said in your profile, I love the GTA series, but I think, honestly, users should have a higher knowledge about the series before thinking about being a staff member, you can see, many users left because they simply love GTA SA and they hate GTA V, if you ask them how many GTA games they have played, they'll only say GTA SA and GTA V (and probaly GTA IV too), I for an example, have played all the GTA games except GTA London and GTA Advance, there are some users like me in the wiki, such as 558050 and WildBrick142, they have played all games, IMO to be a staff member, the users should play at least five GTA games, to be exact: Vice City, San Andreas, IV, Ballad of Gay Tony and GTA V. ( talk ) 23:05, January 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well said Jeff. Leo68 (talk) 23:08, January 19, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't really like how people call themselves "GTA experts" if they have only played 1 or 2 games. Unless they have read the Wiki heaps, knowing everything about SA doesn't meant you know everything about GTA in general. User:LegenDove 14:39, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

People Leaving
I was talking exactly about this with AndreEagle17 a few days ago (we talk in portuguese, so I guess none of you understood), people losing interest in the wikia or GTA. I also believe that is something perfectly normal, checking the profile of some of the ex-members of the staff I noticed how many people were demoted because of inactive, so all happening is not something new for the GTA wikia.


 * I don't know if theres any way to avoid promoting people that will lose interest in GTA after a while, I even sugested to AndreEagle17 to raise from 2 to 6 months the amound of time that someone needs to be on the wikia to become a patroller. Thats because, if someone joins the wikia after buying GTA V and he is only playing the game because of the hype and not because he is a true fan of the series, he probably will have already lost interest in the game after 6 months if not less, so we don't run the risk of promoting someone that will leave the wikia after just a couple of months, like the recent case of RainingPain. It's not 100% secure of course, but I guess it could help. --558050 (talk) 23:41, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

Out of interest
Are you interested on coming back on the team as a patroller or administrator? Messi1983 (talk) 18:09, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Not really, I don't edit enough. I'd come back as a bureaucrat with the understanding that I'd step down once we had a third person ready to promote because staffing and running a wiki is what I'm good at, but I don't really edit content hardly ever and that means I don't have any business being a patroller or admin. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:20, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * "I'd come back as a bureaucrat" That's great to hear. I had been reading and trying to gauge whether it would be worth asking you to "step into the breach" temporarily but thought you felt bound by the "no take-backs" agreement you had with the others. I'd say if Dan and Vaultboy Tom agree, you should be in without needing any election. smurfy (coms) 20:29, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * I am cool with you coming back as a temporary bureaucrat until we found a third person to take over the position permanently. Messi1983 (talk) 20:48, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, no take-backs is a rule so I guess I'll file a request for promotion on the Promotion board then. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:49, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sure go ahead. Messi1983 (talk) 20:51, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * It's up. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:56, January 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * I sent you two emails. Messi1983 (talk) 21:07, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

RfP
Can you vote at requests for promotion. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 22:34, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations on re-gaining your Bureaucratic rights. Leo68 (talk) 18:34, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Can you get in chat? Messi1983 (talk) 19:08, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, hang on a sec. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:09, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

Meatpuppetry
Jeff, could you explain why Boomer's vote was removed and what is "meatpuppetry"? ex: This ( talk ) 19:45, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Per our policy GTA_Wiki:Meatpuppetry, it is against the rules for editors to edit on this wiki soley to support or advance the agenda of another editor. Boomer hasn't made any edits to GTA Wiki since he left in May 2014 that didn't directly involve trying to help Sasquatch101 in some way or other. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:50, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, now I understand, should a user edit on a wiki only to fill another user's agenda, he is violating the policy, I think this is fair, thanks. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 19:55, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

RfP
I have no clue what makes you think that you can take my vote down and say I'm prohibited from voting. Sorry pal, but I've been contributing to this wiki for around 3 years, and I'll be dammed that I won't have a say in this wiki's future. I know you hate it when you don't get your way, but that doesn't mean you can twist the rules in your own favor. Boomer8 (talk) 19:59, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

About Sasquatch101
I told this already in the RfP page, but I will say to you again. Doesn't all this Yes (with conditions) already show that we are not ready to accept Sasquatch as part of the staff yet? You can't vote Yes for someone and still need to remind him of basic things to do like, be active and polite. If all this people who voted Yes doesn't trust the guy to do this little things, how he can be a fully patroler then? For me, this entire voting should be already finished. Do you honestly trust Sasquatch to handle this position? Do you believe that if another major vandal attack like the one before happens again, he will not do all that clusterfuck again? Because the only people that I believe would answer Yes to both of this questions, are Sasquatch puppets, and I know what you already think about then. DLVIIIL  Talk  20:54, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * For the record, I'm not saying that the guy can never become a patroller ever again. If he behaves like an active and polite regular user here for some time, I'm wiling to vote Yes for him. But the fact that he vanished for so many time, and when he finally appears again, is to apply himself to be an admin, and then apply to be a patroller like if nothing had happened, only bothers me even more. DLVIIIL   Talk  20:58, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't agree that the Yes WIth Conditions thing is a good idea - if anything I think it's unfair to the person with the job to have a stigma of having it hanging over their head like that. In my opinion either we trust someone enough to promote them, or we don't. Like I said, my big worry is that Sasquatch can't handle his temper when he's pressed enough. He'll be a model editor for a year straight and then flip out unexpectedly. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:03, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Exactly, this stigma is bad for the person being promoted and the person who voted. Anyway, I just can't picture Sasquatch handling things very well for too long, wherever I think of him, the first think that pops into my mind is this incredibly childish complain that he had against GTA V. I don't know why. It was the first time that I talked with him and I guess it sticked with me. DLVIIIL   Talk  21:19, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * Sasquatch will fail probation I think. Messi1983 (talk) 21:21, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * I see that you blocked Boomer8 permanently, I can't even imagine how well he must be taking that. DLVIIIL   Talk  21:26, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * This happens every single time with Boomer. I actually think Sasquatch would do much better without Boomer always in his ear assuring him that he's perfect and stridently attacking anyone who suggests otherwise. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:30, January 24, 2015 (UTC)


 * He really does that every time? Jesus. I wonder how this devotion for Sasquatch even started, I mean, theres friendship, but this is already starting to become weird. DLVIIIL   Talk  21:37, January 24, 2015 (UTC)

He's Active?
I disagree. Apart from the RfP and community noticeboard, the only activity since early November has been to reinstate links to the Myths wiki over the last cuple of days which I would argue serve the Myths wiki more than they served this wiki. The September/November contributions wouild be less than what the demoted (inactive) guys had been doing in the last 4 months. smurfy (coms) 01:55, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * I've thought this over for a few hours and I think we should leave Myth hunter's vote up. If we're fanatical about meatpuppetry, there's going to be an Incident any time two guys who generally agree on things take the same side on an issue. I'd rather not bring it into consideration unless the editor in question is behaving really disruptively. That's the difference between Boomer/Sasquatch and any other set of editors who are friends. Myth hunter may be a friend and supporter of Sasquatch but he doesn't go around insulting the entire community for not worshipping him. I didn't realize that the only thing Myth hunter was doing was adding links to Myths Wiki though - that does change how I feel about him being here and voting on things a bit. Just not enough that I want to go around telling him he can't vote - telling people they can't vote should be a last-ditch thing to prevent disruption. Jeff (talk·stalk) 04:17, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * No, I was talking about Sasquatch's activity or lack thereof. He's the one that hasn't been contributing at all in terms of eligibility for promotion. MythHunter has been a little more consistently adding a couple of relevant edits a month, similar to the rate we were declaring the staff inactive, but not rated as completely inactive for a user by any means. Certainly not to the extent that would give rise to accusations of meatpuppetry and he should still be considered an eligible voter. smurfy (coms) 04:28, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
 * My fault, was reading on mobile and missing what was replying to what. Back home now though. My point on sasquatch's eligibility for promotion remains though. smurfy (coms) 04:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree. Jeff (talk·stalk) 05:16, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

New admin
I think we should knuckle down soon and start recruiting a new administrator. Messi1983 (talk) 10:29, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Trouble with this is that most of the patrollers have only been promoted this month. Messi1983 (talk) 19:15, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't want to promote an underqualified admin. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:19, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Neither do I. The longest serving patroller is Cloudkit I think. Messi1983 (talk) 19:20, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * How's he been doing at controlling his temper? I know that was sometimes an issue with him back in the day. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:21, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I think he is okay with it now. Messi1983 (talk) 19:22, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * He didn't vote or participate in any of the recent promotion requests, but he is active. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:31, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I am thinking probation for him if he ever does decide to apply for adminship. Mind you, I personally think we should do that for new staff members. Messi1983 (talk) 19:32, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd probably vote for him if he ran, but I'm not going to ask anyone to run. Jeff (talk·stalk) 19:36, January 25, 2015 (UTC)


 * Neither am I. Messi1983 (talk) 19:49, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Rename
Hey Jeff. Could tou rename this page? Theres no other "hater" in the series, so I don't know why they put this name in the page. DLVIIIL  Talk  19:39, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

Admin
Hey Jeff, I was just checking your conversation with Dan, well, I think we need another admin but not right now, and I would say that the most qualified patroller is Smurfynz, but he just got promoted this month, I say give him a year or less and maybe he send a promotion request. ( talk ) 20:44, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

FYI
Left you a few more emails. Messi1983 (talk) 09:53, January 26, 2015 (UTC)

My Inactivity
Hey, Jeff. Long time, no speak. Listen, I apologize for my inactivity and my demotion. It's that I've been busy with school and I haven't had Internet in my home for a few months. And yeah, three edits for January isn't enough. Once I get Internet ("hopefully" by next month), I can retain my moderator position.

--Tony1998  (Talker  * Blogger *  Stalker) -- 20:28, January 27, 2015 (UTC)


 * You didn't get demoted from patroller, you just got moved to inactive. The wiki's rule says that we don't demote patrollers for inactivity and admins/bureaucrats who go inactive only get demoted to patroller, but the patrollers don't seem to understand that and keep filing demotion requests. If I'd been a bureaucrat at the time I'd have deleted the demotion and just moved you to inactive. Jeff (talk·stalk) 20:30, January 27, 2015 (UTC)
 * What? There was a single "inactive/demote" discussion and it was raised because all 5 had made enough irregular edits to avoid the automatic 3 month inactivity timer so couldn't really just be made inactive without discussion. Most of the patrollers and editors seem to have correctly understood that Tony would just be moved to inactive in accordance with the rule. In fact, 2 of the votes to demote Tony came from the two Bureaucrats. Leo and I had to remind Dan that all inactive staff should have retained Patroller rights unless they resigned. Before you fire "lack of understanding" shots, maybe you should check your aim. smurfy (coms) 00:52, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
I spoke recently to Dan about becoming a Bureaucrat to fill the empty space you are temporarily occupying. I will consider Bureaucrat later in the year because I have bureaucratic rights on another site. For now I'd like to adjust to admin and see how I handle it. Leo68 (talk) 00:18, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Rule change vote needed
Please see my post on the community noticeboard requiring Bureaucrat/Admin voting. Thanks smurfy (coms) 01:48, January 28, 2015 (UTC)

Myths Wiki Links
Hey McJeff. Why are you removing the links from the GTA Myths Wiki. On the Community Noticeboard, we agreed to have it once again as an affiliate of the wiki. I recently saw what happened with Boomer8, if that's the reason why you are removing the links, but I think removal of the wiki as an affiliate should be discussed with Sasquatch101 and MythHunter. 01:21, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * It just wasn't relevant to that particular article. Sorry for forgetting to use an edit summary. Jeff (talk·stalk) 01:35, January 29, 2015 (UTC)


 * It's okay, it happens. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:59, January 29, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

Reply
The promotion went as expected and that's fine. The whole situation that happened with Boomer though seems to be a little harsh. From what I read Boomer said no personal insults towards Messi and was just having an argument. I mean debate is healthy and good for anything (i.e. wikis, democracies, ect.) and I saw no indication that Boomer crossed a line and became hostile. I think Boomer just felt that he was being excluded from voting based on your and Messis' view that he is a meatpuppet. I can say that he speaks with a lot of passion and does generally agree with me as we have been editing together for over a couple years. He was very loyal to me during the whole Myths wiki fiasco that went down during the Gunshow2 incident. You know how crazy that was and I very much appreciate your help on that. Me and Boomer have a lot of history, we both love myths and I can say that he is a loyal, trustworthy editor and would be a great person to have here on the GTA Wiki.

Thanks, --Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:44, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

Image Policy for personal pages/sandboxes
Hey Jeff, I was watching a discussion right now and it was a case similar to mines (which happened some time ago), the thing is:

My friend Monkeypolice188 added pictures to his personal page and his sandbox and he still received a warning for image policy, but RainingPain17 gave him an advice, which was to talk to you about this, as I had the same problem, I should ask, do we really need to add licenses to our personal pages/sandboxes? Why? ( talk ) 21:33, February 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * Image policy gets weird sometimes. If it's a picture for personal use, you can always just upload it and ask a b'crat or another knowledgeable editor to add an appropriate license afterwards. I'll take a look at the picture in question now. Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:49, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

Rename page
Hi, Jeff. Could you please rename this page (by what I said in the talk page)? Thanks. -- 04:15, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Hello McJeff. I was just playing through GTA V again(the PS3 version, yeah I know I'm a hipster or something I just can't afford a PS4 atm, anyway), I got passed Meltdown, I felt like switching to Trevor and he was in his underwear, and I decided to go to his safehouse in Sandy Shores to change, and I found Michael chilling in the seat outside the trailer. I have a photo for proof but that's all I got. I was wondering if this information could go anywhere, I mean it if's worthy of going anywhere. If it doesn't I totally understand. Please reply back when you can. We are Diamond Dogs (talk) 05:02, February 9, 2015 (UTC)

Fanfiction
Thanks for that, I was wary of being accused of picking on the guy, so I thought I'd give him one opportunity to fix it himself. smurfy (coms) 23:52, February 12, 2015 (UTC)
 * You weren't picking on him Smurf, you were following the policy. His edits were borderline vandalism and he put a "spoiler" tag on his personal page, so it was right that they were being undone/changed. SJWalker (talk) 00:10, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

GTA London 1961 characters page
Hello there McJeff. I've recently done a lot of work on the GTA London 1961 character page, since it was just a copy of the article for characters in GTA London 1969, which is incorrect as they feature mostly different (minor) characters. I see that you have undone my edits, may I respectfully ask why this has been done? Darth crucifious (talk) 12:40, February 14, 2015 (UTC)

Your opinion
http://gta.wikia.com/Faggio?action=history

There is an ongoing edit war over the number of gears of the article. One user says that it has three gears according to the game files. Two others disagree with it due to the lack of gear changing sound in the game itself.

Since it seems the issue is not about to be resolved yet, I thought it would be better to have your opinion about it. 21:08, February 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't worry, get someone to lock the page, i have removed all of it anyway MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) | (stalk) 21:11, February 20, 2015 (UTC)

Comments
Dear McJeff, I really like this wiki as I use it a lot to inform myself about the GTA game that I'm about to play. But, can this wikia have comments instead of talk pages? Just a thought.


 * Sorry, but this wiki voted to keep talk pages. Jeff (talk·stalk) 16:58, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Help
Hey Jeff. I was just on the GTA Myths Wiki and am shocked at what I saw. remember that user what was rigging votes and causing all those problems, well he is back with multiple accounts and is vandalizing the wiki regularly. He is now uploading new (racist) images that are deleting the ones with the same name. Is there any further protection I can add to the wiki to prevent these attacks? In the mean time I'll just keep a watch out.

--Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:46, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Gunshow2 detected
GodBlessTheNSDAP. Look at his profile. For me it's a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. ( talk / stalk / blog ) 13:07, February 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes it is a sockpuppet of Gunshow2. I have blocked him for sockpuppetry. Messi1983 (talk) 15:08, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

RE:
Thanks for the advice. I'll get right on those things. Hopefully this won't be a problem much longer. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:00, February 24, 2015 (UTC)

Found the Source
Hey Jeff, long time no speak. Anyway, I believe I have found what someone sent me to be the source of these racist vandals. Check it out and tell me what you think.

Videos
I need your opinion about them here. ( talk / stalk / blog ) 15:17, February 28, 2015 (UTC)

Leaked Info
Keep an eye out. This user posted a leaked image of the new Kuruma set to be featured in the Heists Update. He then set up a second account and posted the same image. He has been banned on both accounts. We don't need another sockpuppet. The guy uses random numbers and letters for his titles and the image appears to be in the same image it is outside the La Mesa LSC. If the image appears again before March 10, ban the uploader immediately. Leo68 (talk) 07:24, March 1, 2015 (UTC)

Edits Vandal
Just to let you know, a user practically destroyed your userpage, don't worry, he's blocked! (talk) | (stalk) 19:57, March 2, 2015 (UTC)

Image Policy Becomes Media Policy
After a successful vote on the Community Noticeboard, the image policy is now the media policy and has info on videos being uploaded to the wiki as well as videos. Check it out! Leo68 (talk) 02:44, March 6, 2015 (UTC)

Major Attack
Hey Jeff I just singed on and saw that the Myths wiki was once again heavily attacked by Gunshow. However this time he has used some embedded code which freezes the page and makes it virtually unable to remove. I've contacted one of Wikia's vandalism staff and am waiting to see what they will do. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 07:55, March 7, 2015 (UTC)


 * I emailed you last time and you never answered. Everything in that email is still relevant and valid and can be applied to stopping the vandalism, but I'm not putting hours into protecting GTA Myths Wiki when the staff there won't. Jeff (talk·stalk) 02:27, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

There's no use, Gunshow the vandal keeps changing his IP so Wikia said there is no way to outright block him. He is constantly creating offensive accounts and now uses some code he adds to pages that crashes them and makes it impossible for local staff to remove. Wikia is keeping a close eye on the situation and basically that's all the staff at the Myths wiki can do. This is just really advanced vandalism he is using but it will all inevitably get reverted by Wikia. So I'm not going to loose sleep over it. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 04:07, March 8, 2015 (UTC)

Staff RfP
Please vote here. smurfy (coms) 09:44, March 12, 2015 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
Thanks Jeff, I'm going to send a request. Leo68 (talk) 02:01, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

I sent a request. Leo68 (talk) 02:16, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the opportunity and good luck. Leo68 (talk) 23:05, March 23, 2015 (UTC)

Resign
Hey Jeff, before you resign completely, thanks for your temporary comeback and good luck with your second work, you always did good here. ( talk / stalk / blog ) 17:23, March 23, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks from me too Jeff. I didn't have many dealings with you but you always struck me as level-headed and resourceful. Good luck with your new job. SJWalker (talk) 17:33, March 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks from me as well. You were a great bureaucrat and helped keep things steady. I wish you all the best with your new job and I hope you find everything you are looking for in life. Once again, thanks. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 17:36, March 23, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8

RE:
I'll make sure in future but it is usually closed when there are overwhelming votes and it just seems like there won't be enough votes to change it around. Thanks for the advice though I appreciate tips on doing the job better given how long I've been doing it for. Leo68 (talk) 03:46, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

RfP page
Sorry for undoing your edit earlier. I had read your comments and I know your reason behind your earlier edits. Initially, you did not mention the reason for not restricting the vote to staffs only, so I undo your edits, even when you're a former staff. Once again, I'm really sorry. Although the vote is now not staff-restricted, I still will not vote as I don't know much about Dan. M C ( My Co mp ut er ) 15:17, June 20, 2015 (UTC)

Petition for unbanning on Bully Wiki
On 1st September 2012 you banned me from Bully wikia. It has been nearly 3 years so could you consider unbanning me on bully wikia? Owen4004 (talk) 23:58, July 7, 2015 (UTC)Owen4004


 * I'll give you a chance. Jeff (talk·stalk) 01:18, July 8, 2015 (UTC)