User talk:Kiwismurf/Archives/2021-09

Rollback
Hello Kiwismurf--

I'm Naleksuh and I recently started editing here. One of my edits was to Heists in GTA Online in diff 1330496 correcting the stylized title to the title of the actual page. My edit summary reads: "Actual name of the page, if Heists in Grand Theft Auto Online is the desired title then move the page".

8 minutes later, you reverted this edit. I was expecting if the edit was to be reverted then there would be some explanation as to why a different title was used, but instead the edit was reverted using rollback.

This is problematic, because rollback summary does not explain why the edit was reverted. The tool was originally created to easily revert vandalism but in this case was used to revert both an edit objectively made in good faith and one I believe to have improved the page. It seems this has been done for several other edits as well, as can be seen here.

Now, I am relatively new here and there doesn't seem to be much information about local policies regarding rollback here (Project:Rollback simply redirects to Special:ListGroupRights). However, in general, the general use regarding rollback is that it is only supposed to be used for vandalism. In addition, Project:Staff reads:

"GTA Wiki [sysops] should not use their tools to settle editing disputes; for example, to lock a page on a version they prefer in an editing dispute that isn't vandalism, or use their blocking tool to block a user they have a dispute with. Their tools should be used to help keep the wiki clear of vandalism, spam, and users who make malicious edits, but not for simple disagreements between users acting in good faith."

My concern here is that the use of rollback to revert good faith edits can arguably taken as violating this, especially when a clear explanation for the initial edit was provided and said edit was reverted without one.

I'd encourage you to provide your own thoughts and possibly consider using undo/manual revert in the future. If it cannot be the case, you could at the very least consider discussing the edit on the talk page. I may also propose updating the policy regarding rollback on Community Noticeboard.

I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Naleksuh (talk) 02:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Simeon's Export Requests rollback

 * Explain why you keep doing this. I can't imagine what possible reason there might be for it.-- Mondoblasto (talk) 22:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay, so after finding 'inserting false information' warning on my page, apparently I DO have to supply hard evidence for ANY changes I make for this wiki? I'm rather flabbergasted at this behavior, and if I'm honest, it really pisses me off. The reason that it makes me angry is that what you've done is accuse me of willfully outright LYING to the readers of this wiki, with the goal of misleading other players. That is something, on a personal level, I cannot tolerate. As it so happens, I made a private YT vid that I submitted to R* Support as part of a bug report (which was god damn Herculean effort to get around individual's poor English reading comprehension skills). I'm going to submit it here, and have to trust, in good faith, that you're going to watch it. If were to choose to not watch it, well... I don't know what else further to say. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBK9r0qiGM)-- Mondoblasto (talk) 22:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Why remove Mickey information?
This is jonson1o questioning something. Earlier, I have added to Mickey’s page as it was a very short page and I thought I could add to it, only for you to revert it. What gives?

By the way, I notice you don’t respond to a lot of messages and that you don’t always give good reasons as to why, so...yeah. :/

Seems like I'm not the on complaining ngl
I don't know why you guys are even ruining people's work when you don't understand how simple mechanic work.

So I did multiple reversions for the Tailgater S because simply, it's wrong and yet now the page has been locked, reverted to the old information and yet now, IT IS WRONG and no way to set it right again.

Did you guys even bother to try said vehicle? How the hell is an Audi-like vehicle, an Obey that's only known to have a "Quattro" system in real-life be RWD when it's clearly AWD? Besides, when you flip the Tailgater S, all 4 wheels are spinning when you press on the accelerator so how is that RWD? Plus, think about it and I quote: "The Tailgater S has superior traction thanks to it's RWD configuration" (?????? what the fuck?). How does "RWD" and "Superior traction" in the GTA verse makes any sense... AT ALL?!

Ffs please. Do NOT edit on stuff you guys don't understand. I don't care if you're an admin or what-not. You guys suck in the most logical sense that you're reverting shit because you can but not understanding the gameplay mechanics, styles and technical properties of those items.

Specific source codes
So I've been working on the Contract articles lately and I'm wondering if there are articles that can tell specific code like colored text for mission goals, or how to shrink or enlarge words using source code, or to create this or that, etc. If there are any, I'd like to know these so I can get better with the source code itself. Thank you. UnpublishedPuns33 (talk) 01:59, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Why did you rollback my edits
For Rockford Hills, I mean, Rockford Hills has its own City Hall (near Vangelico), I think it should be an incorporated city, like Davis and Del Perro.

For Double-Action Revolver, it's based on Colt M1892, and RDR2 has a firearm manufacturer named Lancaster, which is almost based on Winchester (both of its name and weapons), so I think D. D. P is RDR equivalent of Colt (with some hints from Winchester, such as its name). Am I wrong?

I'm not vandalism, I just want to know why.RecellsPaidnn (talk) 08:38, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

About my warning
(Sorry for my not excellent English) Hello. I saw that you warned me because I edited a wiki in French version. I just want to explain you that I did it by accident. I wanted to translate the wiki and put it in another, but I put the French version IN the English version and I clicked on Save. I saw I did a big mistake so I deleted it and back it in the normal version (English). I'm really sorry for that event. I hope you will remove my warning.

Have a nice day!

Addactest (AddaxTest 2021-08-19T01:04:39 unsigned)

GTA IV Timeline
Hi, Kiwismurf

According to LCPD website, GTA IV was set in 2008 (and almost for everyone), while in EFLC Weazel News Special Report, 3 news was set in 2009, and the Bank of Liberty robbery (which is Three Leaf Clover take place, 0:20 - 0:25 in video) happened in May 12th, 2009, this may indicate that the GTA IV timeline is related to 2009. As this video was uploaded by Rockstar, it should be canon.

No one seems to talk about this, and I want to know what do you think about it, and sorry for my bad English.FerryDiplomat 8167 (talk) 13:46, 22 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Oversight. Rockstar doesn't really care about the date of their games that are set in the present day, they just put the game's release year (Chinatown Wars, GTA V, GTA Online DLCs). None of the EFLC characters have 2009 crimes on their LCPD record. Also, Niko Bellic's LCPD Database record already confirms that the game is set during its release year. kamikatsu_ (Talk) 14:32, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

San Andreas Bikers vehicles
Is there any evidence of San Andreas Bikers riding the Wayfarer? The person who added that to the page provided no source.

Nate.diddly (talk) 00:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Clothing in GTA IV External Link section
I clicked that link, and it took me through this website that just said “hi” and the Domain was something like Seektheweb.com, did a troll put that link there? I’m really worried it might be dodgey.

PolishTheTortuga (talk) 02:00, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Help with uploading a licenced image
Recently you've sent me a message explaining that i need to add licencing to the unused wave 103 icon i uploaded. I need help with doing it, as i can no longer reupload it with a Licence, as i created the first image, and then made another reupload by accident. is it possible i could get help with this? Its art man. (talk) 15:21, 30 August 2021 (UTC)Its art man.
 * If it's okay that I answer you. First of all make sure the file is named according to media policy . To change a file's name just navigate to the file's page (in your case this) and hover over the 3 dots on the top right and select "Move". (Screenshot). Also please notice that you uploaded a duplicate file, so please avoid doing that cause it's unnecessary. About the license of a file. If you would like to add a license to an existing file just click on edit on the file's page (screenshot). To add a license I usually go to the upload page and hover my mouse over the licenses options to see the template name (screenshot). Then I go back to editing and add a title "==Licensing==" and the license (for example ) in this case (screenshot). Himerosteam (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

for images are images for twitter data miners allowed
just for clarification from you

Radio Station Frequencies of GTA 1
Greetings and Salutations.

I have a PDF copy of the manual for the original Grand Theft Auto, and at the end with the radio station names and songs, are frequencies of each in parenthesis. Before I go updating all of them on the wiki to reflect the manual, I just want to know if because it's in the manual it's noteworthy enough to count in putting the information on the pages, and if needed, how to quote the manual in picture form, as I'm a little fuzzy on the policy and naming convention for images, and wanted clarity before I made life difficult for anyone.

DHaring (talk) 02:30, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Radio Stations and songs in GTA Online
Hi,

Apologies for confusing and editing GTA V stations page earlier thinking it was the same for GTA Online.

I have all songs organised by colors (see image bellow), could be interesting to add as an image at the bottom of the page to show visually how many songs were in original release, in the PS4/XB1/PC release and later added as DLC.



Cheers, Mawerick mc (talk) 15:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Why Undo edits that corrected misinformation?
I corrected some false information in the Special Ability article and corrected wrong dialogues and you just reverted it back? What reason do you have for that?Twominuteswith (talk) 22:00, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Greetings from Fandom!
Hello! My name is HumbleX and I'm a Wikispecialist that’s here to help out the Fandom. I'll be mainly fixing the Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls & Noindexed pages.

HumbleX (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

So many delete requests 😅
Howdy! I hope all is well :)

Apologies for all of the delete requests that are now coming up. Goodness knows why I didn't delete them back when I had the mass delete ability. If it so happens that another moderator or bureaucrat ends up deleting them, then please pass on my apologies to them ':/

JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 08:29, 23 September 2021 (UTC)