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We currently have a lot of staff so there will be no more Patroller requests for a while. Current Patrollers may request to be promoted to Admin status by voting on the Requests for Promotion Page.

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'''Please input your new requests above the old ones. That way, we can easily spot it rather than looking for it.'''

XPanetta
Heads up to all the users, XPanetta is going onto other wikis to convince users to un-block him now that Ilan is gone. Ignore him, if the harassment continues, report him to an admin, or if you can block him from the wiki like I have. See the latest log on The Bill Wikia, where I am a Bureaucrat (he has been blocked from said wiki). The first notice was in September, and the most recent was today.

Thanks for the warning Leo. Considering Tom was one of the ones harrassed by X I can't see him unblocking X any time soon, but we'll all keep our eyes open for him. I think eventually Wikia will do an IP block on him if he continues his harrassment and gets blocked from wikis one by one. SJWalker (talk) 16:38, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I blocked him a month ago on another Wiki for harassing Smashbro. Ever since he got blocked he has so far only cross-wiki harrassed administrators to get unblocked. I'm thinking about filling a report to Wikia against him. I could read once that harrassment can lead to your account being globally blocked. 17:17, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I'd file a report if I were you Rain. There's enough evidence of harrassment and he even helps us by listing what he was blocked for. SJWalker (talk) 17:41, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

I don't think our admin cleanout has been that drastic that trolls like this will get away with asking to have well-deserved infinite blocks overturned. His current harrassing and pleading and demanding is no different to what he has been doing constantly since he was first warned here, let alone after his block(s). Wikia staff have told him point blank he deserved the block and he should pull his head in, but he hasn't given up. Eventually I think he will get a global Wikia block. In the mean time, I do feel sorry for those of you who have your other wikia activity advertised in your profiles which makes you potential targets for him. smurfy (coms) 07:50, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

Inactive Staff and Promotions (moved from Blog Posts)
To anyone who doesn't know already, two Bureaucrats; Ilan xd and The Tom have stood down. LS11sVaultBoy an admin for the site will be taking over to run the site with Messi1983. I am going for admin rights so the following positions are available.

Bureaucrat (Only admins can apply): Tom has taken one position, we still need another position filled. If there is a user in particular, leave a vote for them in the comment section. My vote: Not sure...

Administrator (Only patrollers can apply): If another admin is promoted then we will need a new Admin, however Tom's position will likely be filled by yours truly. My vote: Smashbro8; nobody deserves it more than him, he's one of the most active Patrollers. CJ Jr. may apply for an admin position if any admins are demoted. *CLOSED FOR NOW AS MYSELF AND SMASHBRO HAVE GOTTEN POSITIONS TODAY.

Patroller (Any one can apply): As I go to be an admin, one position becomes available (now taken by 558050), and now that Smashbro has become admin, another person can apply (SJWalker has applied). We may need another if CJ Jr. is promoted.

* UPDATE: Demotion log:

Smurfynz, Smashbro8, Andre and myself have been discussing the demotion of inactive staff. This may leave a large gap. However, we cannot have admins (a majority of the inactive staff are admins) neglecting their duties and not working on the wiki. I am leaving a list of inactive staff, and you can vote and comment on whether or not they will be demoted or moved to inactive.

Votes: List user as keep position, demote or move to inactive e.g User: Keep Position/User: Demote or User: Move to Inactive.

Dodo8

 * Demote and move to inactive - smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Demote --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - Leo68 (talk) 04:16, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:42, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:10, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

JBanton

 * Demote - smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Demote --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - Leo68 (talk) 04:16, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Neutral - SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:42, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:10, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Mikey Klebbitz

 * Demote - smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Demote --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - Leo68 (talk) 04:16, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:42, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:10, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Thomas0802

 * Demote and move to inactive - smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Demote --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - Leo68 (talk) 04:16, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:42, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:10, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Tony 1998

 * Move to inactive - smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Either Demote or Move to Inactive - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Move to inactive --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to inactive Leo68 (talk) 04:16, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to inactive - Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to inactive - 07:02, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Move to inactive - SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote and move to inactive - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:42, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Demote - MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:10, January 20, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

 * I have added Dodo8 to the list of inactive staff for the sake of consistency and fairness. All 4 inactive administrators are equally "guilty" of failing to perform their duties. I have been active 5 months, and in that time:
 * Mikey - has been active here a total of 4 days.
 * Thomas - even worse, 3 days of actual activity.
 * Dodo - 5 days in the same period.
 * Jonny - 6 days in the same period.
 * None of them have left any messages explaining potential absences on their user/talk page as far as I have seen. At least Tony 1988 had done that (and updated it again this month) to explain his absence due to internet problems. As much as this action will leave us short of Admins in raw numbers, in reality we've only had 1 effective admin for the last 4 months (Tom). UPDATE - I switched my Dodo and Mikey inactive votes due to Mikey's activity in last few weeks, got them around the wrong way initially.  smurfy (coms) 03:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * I hate to sound harsh but honestly I believe all users don't have a good enough reason why they should have admin rights. JBanton is rarely active now. He used to show up often before the release of GTA V and Watch Dogs to create, improve and clean up vehicle pages, however, for even new vehicles in GTA V, he has never shown up to improve them. Thomas hasn't shown up in a long time either. He may be resigning so that is why I put demote. For Dodo and Mikey, they claim that they are in school. I can clearly understand that, however, there are 24 hours in a day. I do schoolwork online and work at a retail store on random days, however, I still manage to show up to help the wiki. Some users here actually work more hours than I do or go to college and still edit here often. I do not believe "I have school" is a good enough excuse. For Tony, he did say that he was having internet problems. He shows up rarely, and only does minor edits. From the time I have been here all 5 users haven't used much of their rights or shown up on the wiki after the release of GTA V. I honestly believe that having a few active admins is better than having many admins, several of which do not show up often, especially when we need them the most. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 03:31, January 20, 2015 (UTC)Smashbro8


 * I just want to start off by saying I have nothing against these staff members and commend they for all they have done for the GTA Wiki. There comes a point when people loose interest in what at one point in time really intrigued them. As it stands we have 4 very inactive admins and one patroller. The wiki as a whole is very vast and needs active staff to manage it as much as possible. So all in all I think it would be best if these inactive staff members leave there positions to more active members of the community. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 03:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Most admins should be demoted to Patroller and be moved to inactive. If they really want their rights back, they'll have to be active and work hard to gain their rights back. As for Tony, he should be moved to inactive because he explained his absence. Not explaining their absences should be the main reason the admins are demoted. Leo68 (talk) 04:19, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Inactive admins are a big no-no, obviously. In Tony's case, I'd say we would give him a pass. But the admins need to make sure that they have to keep doin their jobs and maintaining the wiki. I don't hold contempt for the admins listed here. Unfortunately, they have not shown much activity. Thus, demotion. Carl Johnson Jr. (talk) 06:14, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I voted demote for Dodo and Thomas. As for M.K. and JBanton, they're sometimes active, but we should maybe demote them to patroller. And for Tony, we all agree on that. 07:02, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Keeping inactive users as admin or patroller does not seems right to me. So I voted to everyone be demoted. --558050 (talk) 10:30, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've ever seen Dodo edit since I've been on the Wiki, and the others just seem to have disappeared off the face of the earth, but Tony gets a reprieve because he's explained his absence. Like Smashbro said, "school" is not a valid excuse as no-one is in school all day, and some editors have longer days and still manage to drop by the Wiki. I agree with Leo too, having fewer active admins is better than having seven admins when three or four of them barely show up. SJWalker (talk) 11:37, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * School is not a valid reason to be inactive, I have finished the school and I'm in college, yet, I still here, school is really not a valid reason to be inactive, also, I agree with 558050, I don't think keeping their rights is a good idea. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 11:58, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * After thinking about the situation a bit I decided not to vote for the four administrators. Basically you are all saying they should be demoted due to inactivity, something that I believe is extremely unfair - you cannot force the admins to be active when they cannot unless you live in the Soviet Union. I'm going to quote Jeff and Dan about similar situations a while ago:

Personally I don't feel there is a need to remove their rights. How about you do what many other Wikis do, i.e. remove their username color and add them to the "Inactive Staff" section of the GTA Wiki:Staff page? If admins go inactive, to fix the problem simply move them to inactive and promote someone else. If (yes I said IF) an inactive admin is active again, he'll still be able to manage stuff. Removing their rights is basically equal to kicking them out of the Wiki; I've never been demoted (except here and it was per my own request), but I think that someone who was an admin here and is demoted is less likely to return.

That being said, I agree that when requesting admin rights, if you know you're going to be inactive it's problematic. But still - demoting them is not the right way to solve the issue IMO. 12:27, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * We are not asking anyone here to live on the wikia. No one works/studies/travels 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Is really asking too much for this users to just appear here once in a while to just make an edit? Or to see how is the wikia going? I don't think so. As Smurfyz already pointed out, this users have made 6 to only 4 edits in 5 months! I find really hard to believe that every single one of then was way too busy with their social lifes, during 5 months, to appear here. Its a very poor excuse, and I would personally find better if they just said that they are not interest in the wikia anymore, Hell, even Istalo was at least honest enough to say that he was too lazy to edit something.

--558050 (talk) 12:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC) "They didn't came all this way to stay inactive for 5 months" There was that time when they were active. Their reason to go inactive is quite unclear (I doubt it is only "school") but still, "punishing" them by removing their rights is not the right way to take care of the issue. How about a message like this before proceeding to demoting? 17:17, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * 558 is right, by saying "active" we don't mean that the user should be here 24/7/365, but at least three hours a day and at least during the weekends, is that too much to ask? I mean, they are ADMINISTRATORS, so their job is to administrate the wiki, they didn't came all this way to stay inactive for 5 months, what about the other competent users? I think it's better to have Leo, Smashbro and CJ Jr. as our admins, you see, Smashbro studies and works every day in the week (except weekends) and he's still here, that doesn't mean he has no social life, I think it's a bit unfair to have admins who doesn't show up in 5 months... [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 14:06, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Basically you both are implying they are inactive for the sole reason that they do not edit. Before claiming they are, please try contacting them and see what happens. Both Tom and Ilan never edited although they replied to messages on their talk page. Maybe that apply to them too.
 * I think Dodo8 should be demoted but not inactive, I think JBanton is active but not really the admin type and Tony is very inactive so should be demoted and made inactive. I'll see what everyone else thinks before I do any demoting first though. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 16:44, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * Final word: Demote the admins to inactive patrollers. Move Tony to inactive. CJ Jr. can take an admin spot and we'll stick with three until somebody else can be promoted. 2 'crats, 3 admins for now. Leo68 (talk) 17:51, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * These users are considered to me as inactive, their recent edits are only talk pages, with one or two having one article edit. I think they need to go, leaving space for other users. However, this will leave a worryingly large gap in the staff members page MONKEYPOLICE188.png (talk) 18:12, January 20, 2015 (UTC)


 * That's why we should promote CJ Jr. We make the admins inactive patrollers and look to promote more users to admin. Leo68 (talk) 19:40, January 20, 2015 (UTC)
 * Given this is now looking like a fait accompli, I've been doing some thinking about the staff page. In the past, the gallery tables have just shown the active staff, how about we show the vacant positions?


 * See my test layout here.


 * I don't personally think we need to be in any huge rush to fill any of the 3 higher level vacancies right away. All the active staff we would have on board are enough at the moment. That could change if the 4 or 5 Bureaucrats and Admins start to get overwhelmed, but I think in a month or two, we will be in a position to promote each layer up i.e. one of the 3 new Admins up to fill the Bureaucrat vacancy, a couple of the new Patrollers up to fill 2 or 3 of the Admin spots and another couple of new Patrollers can be promoted to back-fill those gaps. This would be in time for the arrival of the PC version which I predict will give us some issues with modded content very quickly.


 * Vested interest disclosure: Obviously I intend applying for one of those Admin positions when I have served an appropriate time at this level. When it was first suggested to me that I should apply for Patroller rights back in October, I made no secret of the fact that I am more accustomed to operating at the equivalent of at least an Administrator level. At the time, the admin layer looked pretty entrenched. Yes, I am kicking myself slightly for not having applied for Patroller much earlier as I may have been in a position to apply for Admin now if I had done so. smurfy (coms)  07:19, January 21, 2015 (UTC)


 * "School is not a valid reason to be inactive" - I think you'll find that school is a good enough reason to be inactive as education is more important than editing a wiki. Messi1983 (talk) 12:39, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Dan, nobody is studying 24/7/365, Smashbro for an example, he study and work, yet, he's still here, also, I'm in college and i'm still here, that's why we say that school is not a valid reason for disappearing. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 12:44, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I'd like to hear from someone what is a "valid reason" to go inactive. You may be in school and find time to edit Wikia, some here don't. I assume school in Brazil is not the same as school in Romania (where Dodo lives) and in Portugal (where M.K. lives). 12:48, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * In my opinion school is a valid reason to go inactive. Education is the most important thing in your life after your family because education makes or breaks your life. Messi1983 (talk) 12:59, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Rain and Dan, I know and I agree that education is the most important thing in life, that's why i'm in college, but I don't think it makes them busy enough not to get back to the wiki, a very valid reason to leave was Ilan's reason, he's in his country's armed forces and The Tom wanted something to his life, it was sad to lose both of them, but they gave us very strong reasons, also, I think school does not take 24 hours of their days, appearing in the wiki sometimes will not break their lifes, i'm not saying basically that "they should forget about school", but they should take at least a few minutes of their days to see if the wiki is running smoothly. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 13:09, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * "I think school does not take 24 hours of their days, appearing in the wiki sometimes will not break their lifes" You never know. On Tuesdays I start school at 8 AM and finish it at 6 PM. At home, work & stuff and I'm "free" at 8 PM, and I am in bed at 10 PM. Basically that means that on Tuesdays I do barely edit. Additionally, I believe there is more than the "school" reason. Personal life, etc. See how Mikey is 17 (nearly 18), who knows, he might've a job. Takes time as well. 13:24, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * I use myself as a example, I work from 2PM to 5PM and then I go to college from 6PM to 10PM, that's 7 hours of my 24 hours day that I'm too busy to enter in the wikia, (although I'm in vacation from college until february, so I have more time now), that still leave some proper time to at least enter here too see how things have been going. Now, of course that there is cases in with the person needs to dedicate more time of his day to study, maybe to pass in an future exam of something, I also tend to leave wikia for some weeks to study for my own exams. But if that happens, is really asking too much that they warn the rest of the staff that they are leaving for some time? The inactive or semi-inactive tables in the user page are there for this, most of these people just vanished without saying anything, that is really frustrating. And today, with cellphones that can connect to the internet almost anywhere, this excuse of "lack of time" is even more weak (but I have to admit that editing something in the mobile version of the site is a real bitch). Also, in other forums and sites that I attend, I have seem people use this exactly same excuse, and yet still could find time to enter in sites like facebook or twitter! I'm not acusing these guys of anything, but you have to admit that theres something more going on here then just school or work. Lack of interest is my best guess. Anyway, maybe I was really too harsh in saying that they all should be demoted, I will revise my decision. -- DLVIIIL  Talk  13:40, January 21, 2015 (UTC)
 * Once again, I don't mean that they should leave school or their personal life, is it too much to ask to be just a few minutes in the wiki? Even if school takes 12 hours of the day, there's still some time for them, and you know what? Leon Davis has kids and he works hard, he is still here, but okay, I think i'm sounding like a dick right now, if I do, then sorry. [[Image:Signature.png|105px|link=User:AndreEagle17|AndreEagle17]] ( talk ) 13:49, January 21, 2015 (UTC)

My Resignation
As you may have noticed I've been pretty inactive in recent months, I thought I might be able to find time for the Wiki again, but that doesn't seem likely. So I'm resigning.

I'll be keeping my rights for the time being so that I can promote whoever you all choose to become a bureaucrat. Then I'll be gone. I've been dedicated to rebuilding this Wiki for the last few years now, but I feel that I've gone as far as I can. I think I'm leaving the Wiki in capable hands.

So good luck everyone, I wish you all the best. Tom Talk 20:59, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

 * Oh man, it's a real shame to hear that. Now we've lost two bureaucrats. Well, good luck to you. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 21:02, January 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. Good luck with your b'crat vote. Tom Talk 21:04, January 18, 2015 (UTC)
 * Did you see the message I sent you? LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 21:07, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Patroller Probation (Bureaucrat-Admin Only Vote)
A message for our bureaucrats and admins, The Tom, Ilan xd, Messi1983, LS11sVaultBoy, Dodo8, JBanton, Mikey Klebbitz & Thomas0802.

To any other users, please leave voting to more senior staff members, that are listed above.

I immediately want to point out I'm not stirring up trouble to any new users applying for promotion, but events of the last few days makes me think this should be suggested. With the problems the community faced with RainingPain17 I propose the following;

Each user applying for Patroller rights with inexperience or 2 months of joining should go through a three month trial basis or probationary period if a majority yes vote is reached, to prove whether or not they can do the job. Due to a few inexperiences and disputes, Andre has agreed if his vote goes this way, as it stands right now this is the case. Please leave your votes tomorrow. If this goes towards a negative majority vote then please delete the post. If there is a positive majority vote then we could put this into the Staff policies. If there is more questions, please leave them on my talk page.

Vote

 * Yes - LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:20, January 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes (with modifications) - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:19, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes - Tom Talk 19:12, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

Comments

 * I agree that it would be a good thing to happen. LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:20, January 9, 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a good idea, but 2 months would be enough. - Mikey Klebbitz (talk) 19:19, January 10, 2015 (UTC)
 * Dan has voted in favour on the blog post, so as it stands two admins and a bureaucrat are in favour. I'll leave a notice on the post to redirect all comments and votes here. Leo68 (talk) 00:22, January 13, 2015 (UTC)

Character Navigation Templates
Hi all. I'm posting here to ask what do you all think about the current navigation templates for Characters. GTA's pre-TLAD use navboxes and GTA's post-IV use a navbars. I'm in favour of both, but we can't keep both together (See the Lazlow page, you'll know what I mean), so I'm asking about your opinions what should be done about this.

Navbars are cleaner and small in size, but don't have all characters or show whether a character is main, supporting, radio host, etc.. Navboxes are big in size but can have all characters listed and can show what type of character it is.

Choose! navbox navbar

Happy Holidays, by the way. 19:37, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Comments
Navbox, because navbars look ugly. AK-28 (Talk  ⋆ Edits ) 19:52, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, navbars are definitely horrible. 21:59, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Navbox, they look better in full view, they are more informative AND they can be collapsed to take up less room. smurfy (coms) 22:52, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

GTA V/Online Template Colour Coordination
Hi everyone. Not sure whether this is the right place to post this (new to the Wiki community) thought I'd start a discussion here about the templates we use for GTA V and Online (mostly for Online) and say we need some consistency in the colour coordination. Like, all colours are the same across the wiki, as I think it'd be a lot more helpful to have it. So far, we have:

Aqua for Next-Gen Exclusives Light Green for Special Collector's Edition/Pre-Order Bonus Dark Orange for the Social Club items Yellow for the Beach Bum Update Violet for the Valentine's Day Massacre Special Light Blue for The Business Update Red, White & Blue for the Independence Day Special Lime Green for the San Andreas Flight School Update Pink for San Andreas Flight School Jobs (separate to the update - the jobs were released 2 weeks later) Dark Gray for The Last Team Standing Update Indigo for the Festive Suprise Update Olive for the upcoming Heists Update
 * 1) FF2400 for The High Life Update
 * 2) 42A5AB for the I'm Not A Hipster Update

I just wanted to see what everyone thought about making every colour the same for each template referring to each update. Also, if you'd change any colours (perhaps to make them more readable, personally not a fan of the Indigo colour against a black background) and what colours would be best for the future. Thanks!

ToJ (talk) 22:50, December 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Carl Johnson Jr. changed the colors for Festive Update to #ED1C24 #00FF00 and for Independence Day Special to #B22234 white #3C3B6E on the GTA V weapons template. Festive Surprise colors look good IMO but the Independence Day Special colors are still a bit hard to see (though much better than before). Thoughts on this? v-michael-trunk-mini.jpg V-franklin-trunk-mini.jpg V-trevor-trunk-mini.jpg 11:31, December 19, 2014 (UTC)

The Festive Surprise colour is great. I'm starting to realise that lighter colours usually work best against the GTA Wiki's black background. The Independence Day colours are better, I'm all in favour of keeping the red, white and blue-style to this update. Just what shade of each colour is what needs to be decided. ToJ (talk) 01:34, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Weapons
Hey there, I'm AK-28 aka Kingrhem - a former staff member of this wiki. This wiki is one of the biggest wikis out there, however it's really messed up when it come to articles about weapons. Lately I've been editing around the Battlefield wiki, and there weapon articles are magnificent and they separate information into each game like this:

Grand Theft Auto IV
The Rocket Launcher or RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade) is a weapon in Grand Theft Auto IV...

Grand Theft Auto V
The Shrewsbury Rocket Launcher or RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade) is a weapon in Grand Theft Auto V....

Note: The weapons should be either sorted by in-game name or by weapon type. -AK-28 (Talk  ⋆ Edits ) 10:16, December 7, 2014 (UTC)

Restoring GTA Myths Wiki as an Affiliate

 * Closed as Successful  - iLan ( XD &bull; Edits ) 18:49, December 29, 2014 (UTC)

For those of you who don't know me, I'm Boomer8 - an administrator on the GTA Myths Wiki and a former patroller here before I resigned. I'd like to begin to say that this wiki does not allow myths. Period. About a year and a half ago the rumors and speculation of myths in GTA V was a big problem here, so when the GTA Myths Wiki was created the problem was resolved very well. Its the most professional and reliable source of GTA Myths on the web to date, and has a strong following of its own. So I think it would be beneficial to both of our wikis, and the readers, to re-affiliate them. We would both gain new users and viewers; and there would be less confusion as to where to find both of our wikis. Now for those of you who don't know why we broke the affiliation, there was a disagreement between both of the staffs over a vandal. Because of this, the wikis were no longer affiliated with each other and the links to our wikis were removed from all pages from each wiki. However, the situation has been resolved for months now and both wikis are neutral towards each other. So in conclusion, I highly suggest that you vote in favor of this for these very reasons. Thank you. --Boomer8 (talk) 07:32, December 3, 2014 (UTC)

Votes

 * Yes - --Boomer8 (talk) 07:32, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes-Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 08:43, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Support - Why not. 11:01, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Neutral - Jeff (talk·stalk)
 * Yes --Sasquatch101 (talk) 00:44, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes - [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:24, December 4, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * Neutral - Dodo8 Talk  09:10, December 8, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * I think it would be a good idea.Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 08:43, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * First, to explain, I don't have anything against GTA Myths Wiki or hold any grudges against the active users there. I'm fully in favor of the wikis linking to each other where relevant (e.g. on this wiki's Bigfoot page). I do, however, think that the whole concept of "affiliates" is more of a social dance feature that mostly serves to give people and wikis a way to get back at each other for perceived slights by removing one another from affiliates lists - see the way Sasquatch removed the affiliation because he got blocked and GTA Wiki Staff responded by scrubbing the links to Myths Wiki, or the way people on both wikis antagonize each other with their "friends lists" on their user pages. Jeff (talk·stalk) 15:31, December 3, 2014 (UTC)
 * Affiliates allow users to access a network of sites without the hassle of scouring the internet to find what they are looking for. It builds a wider community of different interests and more users. Top wikis on Wikia implement affiliates as it is a fantastic tool for both independent wikis and it's users. I don't want to "dig up" the past, but the fact is Tom unilaterally removed the Myths links and affiliate tab from GTA Wiki before we did. I still am confused why he would do that since he was only hurting users who enjoyed a more cohesive linked network of information. Affiliating and expanding this wikis' user base is a good thing and should happen. --Sasquatch101 (talk) 00:44, December 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, the past is the past. We should never go over what happened in the past. GTA Myths Wiki should once again be an affiliate of this wiki. In life, we learn things from the past and I believe Sasquatch and Boomer can be trusted with their wiki once again being an affiliate of this wiki. [[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt1.png|90px|link=User:Smashbro8|Smashbro8]] ([[Image:Smashbro8-Sig-pt2.png|50px|link=User talk:Smashbro8|Talk]]) 01:24, December 4, 2014 (UTC)Smashbro8
 * The request should be closed by now.Hunter(Talk/Stalk) 19:52, December 19, 2014 (UTC)
 * Is a bureaucrat going to close this? It's been open for way more than a week. --Boomer8 (talk) 05:23, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Staff: Cleanup assistance request
A user recently uploaded literally hundreds of Russian language videos - see Special:Log/Osmanas. It would be good if the administrators and b-crats could delete of his videos, maybe 10 per day or something, so that it doesn't have to all be done by one guy. Jeff (talk·stalk) 21:25, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

Abuse filters
Wikia Central has enabled abuse filters on this wiki, and I'm working on important them from Bully Wiki. Hopefully they'll work properly, otherwise I'll have to ask for some help with them (they're in a programming language I don't recognize, but I can sometimes figure out how to edit the code someone else wrote to make it do what I want).

Because this wiki has IP editing turned off, I had to create an account to test the filters. Ergo the User:Jeff the Vandal account.

I'll continue to update the community.

And I'd just like to thank Joshualeverburg for giving us a chance to permanently spoil his fun, and clean out the staff roster from the "promote anybody who asks for it and can spell words right" days in one fell swoop. Jeff (talk·stalk) 07:19, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

Boomer8 has resigned as a patroller
Following Sasquatch's demotion and banning, Boomer has decided to relinquish his patroller rights. His actual resignation statement was removed as a personal attack/incivility. Jeff (talk·stalk) 03:18, May 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * He reposted it, and has now been blocked for a month. Jeff (talk·stalk) 06:34, May 6, 2014 (UTC)

New bureaucrat and administrator
I have decided to step down as a bureaucrat. Having discussed this with the other two bureaucrats (Messi1983 and The Tom), we've decided to forgo a formal election and make the following promotions.


 * Ilan xd is promoted to bureaucrat due to being the most senior non-bureaucrat administrator and unanimous agreement among bureaucrats.
 * Dodo8 is promoted to administrator - he received 100% 'yes' votes in the January 2014 Administrator Election, and that indicates that the community trusts him to be an administrator.

Jeff (talk·stalk) 22:28, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Image sources remind
Between the 4th and the 28th February, I'll work in a project, with its goal to rename and add the license templates to several images here to keep the Wiki better organized and with copyrighted images. And just to remind, I'm asking all users something. If you are editing a page on source mode and you see images violating the image policy, don't erase it. They might serve as a redirect to several images I renamed or I'll rename. To be sure if the image follows the image policy or not, exit the editing mode and click on the image. If the image doesn't follow the image policy, rename it if you want (if you possess administrator/bureaucrat rights) to help me. Thanks for understanding. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 18:55, February 6, 2014 (UTC)

GTA 1 & 2 Cleanup
I noticed that the GTA 1 and GTA 2 missions pages are very small and/or require a lot of cleanup. I would try my best to clean them up and add to them myself, but I know next to nothing about those games since I haven't played them since 2004ish. Is there anyone who knows about these games enough and that is willing to add to them? LS11sVaultBoy (Talk) 17:13, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Comments

 * I'll take care of GTA 1 when I'm done with renaming images. --Thomas0802 • (talk • edits) 19:45, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Administrator elections
Anyone who is interested in participating, please go to GTA Wiki:Requests for Promotion/Jan 2014 Administrator Election and vote. It's going to be open for a week (at least) regardless so feel free to take some time thinking about it first. Jeff (talk|stalk) 21:43, January 10, 2014 (UTC)


 * Per the Election results, the new administrator is User:Thomas0802. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:42, January 17, 2014 (UTC)