User talk:Kiwismurf

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Officer Jernigan
Hey, so I was fooling around in Director Mode and noticed that the female Blaine County Sheriff's also have the nametag "Jernigan" on their shirts. Would this require a complete rework of her page considering there's two different types of officers with that name and up to four different models between each type? Myelle (talk) 06:48, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Edit: So I just cycled through the Baline County Sherrif women. There are two models present. One is American and one looks a little more Asian. I noticed two seperate nametags, one is Jernigan and one is a longer name. I can't quite tell what it says but it starts with a K, or maybe it's an M, I don't know. Regardless, the name isn't attached to their character models, it's attached to the outfit. So both the Asian women and the Caucasian women can have both potential names. What should we do in a case like this? Perhaps you can visit Director Mode and give me your imput. Myelle (talk) 06:57, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * I cycled through the female sherrifs once more and not a single one wears a shirt without a nametag. Every single top comes with a nametag and they're always either Jernigan or Kirkman. So either you didn't see it correctly or the female sheriffs in Story Mode have a unique shirt without a nametag that's not avalible in Director Mode. I'm guessing it's the former, but I could be wrong. I'll check Story Mode as well, but I'm not expecting to be surprised. Myelle (talk) 07:40, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Just double checked the female officer that spawns outside the Sandy Shores Sherrifs Department and she was wearing a nametag, so I don't know if what you experienced was a rarity or what. Myelle (talk) 07:47, March 31, 2018 (UTC)
 * Very cool. Kinda frustrating to have two different types of officers and four different models with the same badge, but I really don't blame them. Why would they wanna make a unique badge for every officer/model? Myelle (talk) 05:25, April 1, 2018 (UTC)

RfP
Dude... did you forget what I told you about it? xD 07:42, April 1, 2018 (UTC)
 * Obviously it was too :p and for the record, reverting the revision of the file page like you did doesn't automatically update the wordmark itself. I'll take care of it when the day is over. 08:00, April 1, 2018 (UTC)

RfP
Cheers for sort-of closing that for me, completely forgot to. The dentist's anaesthetic must be getting to me. *Mnmnmhm*. Monk Talk 21:57, April 3, 2018 (UTC)

Strategies
What should I do if I wanted to write a strategy for a mission? Because you always remove my contrubutions about those so I wanna find a legit way SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 08:44, April 7, 2018 (UTC)SUPER4geditTANK

Undo
Why would you undo my concidentally edit on 3D Universe? I was writing a concidentally for the only protangonists who can swim in 3D universe are also both black skins! why would you undo it for some reasons?


 * GTA Wiki:Trivia Monk Talk 13:36, April 12, 2018 (UTC)

LCPD sky blue shirt officers/traffic officers
I'm a little confused. The LCPD HD universe article referenced that their are LCPD Officers that wear Sky blue shirts (The only officers I've seen that wear this are the fat officers and the guy Johnny punched in Heavy Toll). I was then thrown off when it mentioned that there are traffic officers that wear a different uniform from regular officers. 4/13/2018 12:03 PM (User:OnionsNeggs) (talk)

Deletion
Hello. I noticed you deleted one of my blog posts for being "Irrelevant and nonsensical".

Why would you do that? I was trying to ask for help, and this is what you do to people who try to ask questions? I find the reason for deletion absurd. I wanted to ask the community to help me with a Mod. Who gave you the right to do that? If you want to discuss this matter with me, I'm up for it, but you shouldn't delete posts from a person who is not violating any rules and is only ASKING FOR HELP. Be careful on that one next time, okay?


 * I know that I sound mad about what happened, but can you let me re-submit it again on the forums, at least? I haven't receibed a reply from the GTA Forums and I want to imform the people here to give me a hand.


 * Chrisatsinnoh


 * Again with the post deletion. Wow. Why don't you want me to receive help? Please send me a message regarding the matter. I want to discuss the silly deletions right now. Chrisatsinnoh (talk) 02:41, April 14, 2018 (UTC) Chrisatsinnoh.


 * In other words, I read your posts on the matter later, but I want to add something to the matter as well; nobody in the GTA Forums is replying to my inquiry. Absolutely nobody, and I wondered if the people here can help me.  The people back there are only viewing my post but not a single one of them have reached out to me. I know, I'm angry with this situation, but I don't want to take it out on you, if I don't want to be warned.


 * In other words, I know. I'm upset. I'm starting to get fed up because I haven't gotten any replies yet. I normally except people to reach me on an inquiry in a day, but I haven't seen the GTA Forums not doing anything.


 * I wasn't aware of the fact that discussing mods is not permitted. My apologies for that, but I came back to the wiki but I didn't re-read the policy. I understand if my previous posts will lead to a block, but maybe a ban or suspension would be preffered.


 * I saw your next post. I understood what you said. But I didn't except the GTA Forums to take a while to respond. I heard that a post made in 2016 was responded today recently. I know I have to work on my patience a little, so I need to give it an extension if I were to make another post on the forums.


 * On the other hand, I might end up doing the research myself on the heritage question if my patience runs low.

Also, what I meant to say "was hard for you to undestand" was asked as a question in case if you thought you didn't get my inquiry. If it were to look like an insult, I would've sounded legitely mad while writing the post that included the quote in it. I also undestand if you think this is an excuse.

Vietnamese user
Hi admin, I'm Nguyễn Anh Lâm (you can call me "Lâm" (Lam)), I'm Vietnamese. I think you know the Vietnamese user added too much nonsense things for Vietnamese characters pages, especially The Snakehead, Ran Fa Li, Su Xi Mu. I'm sure he wanna vandalize the GTA Wikia because he also joined Vietnamese GTA Wikia (I'm an admin there), he added too much nonsense things and got a block (more exactly: he added false information, we even warned but he ignored). May you send him a warning? I really tired with his actions. He even uses sockpuppet to avoid being detected.

Honestly, I feel ashamed for Vietnamese Wikia users because of his actions will make the other users think all Vietnamese users are "destroyer". You know what I mean?.

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ANguyenminhtu6 (the original account)

http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/User:Guy_Josselyn (the sockpuppet)

Btw, I ain't like him, don't suspect me. I wanna help the Wikia unlike that guy. Also sorry for my bad grammars, I'm not really good at English

NguyenAnhLam (talk) 16:58, April 15, 2018 (UTC)

I can't upload photos for some reason. I'm trying to redo our GTA3 car pictures to be updated with the Xbox models + reflections, though not being able to even upload said photos prevent me. the error is a "file type verifcation error!" PixelGun4Life! (talk) 21:57, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Ah wait I fixed it. Apparently converting .bmp to .png or .jpg does not play nice with wikia.com. PixelGun4Life! (talk) 22:45, April 17, 2018 (UTC)

Doomsday Heist
I've noticed that most of the Act 3 of the Doomsday Heist were missing or mostly blank other than a video

Will a text description and walkthrough be added soon?SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 02:17, April 21, 2018 (UTC)SUPER4geditTANK

Revised section
I don't mean to be annoying but why did you remove my addition to the Declasse Asea page for Grand Theft Auto V? I have tested my theory on getting the snowy Asea and it has worked.Coco3701 (talk) 03:26, April 23, 2018 (UTC)Coco3701


 * You are petty for keeping a contributor from correcting or adding missing information and giving him warnings over minor things that are on MY profile. You have made this website a place where not everyone can edit. Shame on you!


 * The edit was both unsourced and rather poorly written. This description does not conform with the manual of style and does involve exploits and/or game bugs, which should not be mentioned within the locations section of the article. Edits such as this should definitely be cited. Monk Talk 19:04, April 23, 2018 (UTC)
 * Monk has pretty much nailed the reasons for the revert. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 20:50, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Modified category
I not doing anything like that! All I did was add a way to get the snowy Asea in story mode. It was just a helpful way! I meant nothing by it!Coco3701 (talk) 01:27, April 24, 2018 (UTC)Coco3701

A cool development
In case you didn't notice my latest sandbox stuff or the discussion me and Camilo were having, there's quite a big development in terms of the locations sections for articles, particularly vehicles but it could later involve peds - on a side note, a ped article would be really nice :P

Basically, I found a program called CodeWalker. I had used it before but never knew it's actual potential, so I reinstalled it a couple of days ago only to realise what it's capable of. I turns out it pretty much decodes all the useless-to-know data with regards to spawning things around the map, and turns it into something that could actually be very useful indeed.

With the program, I'm able to display every single possible "scenario" the map has to offer. A scenario is basically a sort-of-scripted event that occurs at random possibility, sometimes between specific times, such as Boxvilles driving out of alleyways, the jets taking off at LSIA, Fort Zancudo, training jets flying down the Zancudo River, all the modded vehicle spawns outside LSC, etc... There is quite literally thousands, and it's really interesting to see how it works.

To gain a visualization, you can check out some previews here. Yep - those lines are all the scenarios occurring across the map.

As well as "scenarios", the program can also be used to display every single parked vehicle spawn location on the entire map. And I'm not talking just an occasional parked vehicle in an alleyway - oh no, every single spot on the side of the road, inside car parks, etc. Everything you can imagine is on there.

Unfortunately, there is a lot to cover and it probably won't ever be fully completed, just look at the amount of spawns I've listed in the LSIA section on the sandbox link I sent you. Obviously I have completely torn the data apart and listed every last one of the spawn points, which is very OTT of me, but, I'm all for it.

It can be used to source lots of currently-unsourced information with regards to the position of vehicles, but can also be used to clarify what's nearby on location articles - check out what I did with Zancudo Bridge and AGL Refrigerated Storage Inc. :) If you cast your mind back to the edits you made about the Sadler that spawns on Lago Zancudo, I've given that a source on the Sadler article, too.

Another great thing is how we can use this to determine what vehicles spawn where in terms of general traffic, which isn't scripted. The program displays where specific "bounds" (population zones) lie around the map, these connect with the popgroups.xml data, which lists certain vehicles under these bounds, making them spawn only in these areas.

It makes sense why GTA Online feels really empty. While the map itself is pretty much identical, not only are props missing, such as trash cans and newsboxes on the side of the road, almost all of these scenarios do not occur in GTA Online. The definitely make the map so much more interesting.

Anyway, enjoy. If you're interested in using it too, you don't have to have OpenIV or any mods, just download it at GTA5-mods.com, I wouldn't regard it as modding, although I know you don't like to dig down into files and the data side of things :) Monk Talk 21:06, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Indian Inn Edit
Sorry was that edit to the Indian Inn inappropriate in some way?Scribe888 (talk) 03:19, April 24, 2018 (UTC)


 * Understood, sorry first time posting here.  Scribe888 (talk) 00:21, April 25, 2018 (UTC)

Uptown Riders in GTA Chinatown Wars and other games
Hello the article mentioned that Uptown Riders appeared in GTA Chinatown Wars. I wasn't so sure at first because I don't recall seeing them in the game. Come to think, I don't recall seeing them in the Balled of Gay Tony, though Rockstar probablly changed the spawn location as they did with the Angels of Death. For GTA V, I've only seen Uptown Rider appeal at Franklin's wardrobe. User:OnionsNeggs (talk) 3:32 PM 4/25/2018

Hello, Kiwismurf. It's been a while since we talked about the GTA Online Mod Trainer thing and I'm sorry over the dispute we had, but I want to thank you for reminding me the rules of not discussing mods here. I'll keep it in mind on the wiki. I hope you're doing good, in the meantime.

There's also something else I want to talk about. Why did you remove the "theory" (I didn't know how to call what I was going to say) I made about the age of GTA Online Characters in the next gen? I know for the fact that they must be 18 and over since that's the age for adulthood, and I don't think it should be degraded to an "adolescent" age because it would be some kind of violation or something. But do you also have something to say about the age range of GTA Online characters in the next gen? Is it the same as the old gen? I know that I might cause another dispute, but I don't want to. I feel like discussing this with you, and I'm not sure where to put it (not in this wiki) if I bring it up again.

About special vehicles
I wonder why you undo my edits on the article about a special vehicle. Since you may or may not know that it's proven to be true. But I can't determine where to put it so I'll have to leave it thereSUPER4geditTANK (talk) 10:00, April 30, 2018 (UTC)SUPER4geditTANK

I know, but the problem is, how am I gonna deal with it? Because I'm not gonna ruin the article by integrating that with the main article

If it can't be properly integrated then my guess is it probably shouldn't be included. If you really want to post it on here your best bet is to do so on your personal page, or as a blog post. Sam Talk 22:21, April 30, 2018 (UTC)

Removing speculation content
Yes, considering the edit seems like speculation to me too, now i see what i did, i apologize :( . But if removing the part where it comes to speculation, it could be a fact (event that happened) and simimlar to the one in "The Green Sabre" trivia. I saw comments of that kind http://gta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Green_Sabre#Trivia there so remembered to add that one because it can be interpreted like trivia and is indeed strange behaviour of the cutscene during the game. Anyway, if adding the edit with removed parts mentioning "implying", would it be legal / appropriate? :)


 * MarijaPetrova (talk)

Thanks for the help
Noted / Roger that. I read rules and must forgot about trivia comments being special and added only if really required. And also that formal expression, i intend to express as formally as possible but cannot do quite, because of learning paralell Russian and English from life beginning so not sure between 2 synonims which 1 is more formal,also working with codes make us use not-so-large vocabulary (if-else-for-while ;) ) so in future i'll ask before posting,and relocate posts in right position. Anyway thanks a lot for correcting and editing tips :D


 * MarijaPetrova (talk)

Can you delete my profile?
Hello. I've been trying to find how to delete my own profile here by myself, but I didn't find it. So my question is, can you delete my profile? Or any of staff members here. Can they? Thank you. Ensaay (talk | contributions) 16:00, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Hey, why did you delete my page? It said it was duplicate but I couldn't find any page about her.

Administrators
I see that there are lots of admins on the wiki, and as well as patrollers. I was intrested in contributing to the wiki more. I'm asking you should I give it a go or make more positive contributuins before that (Since I don't want wasting bureucrats' and admins' time only to get a request closed too fast.)

As I've stated on my personel page, I'm a vehicle specialist for 3D era GTAs

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 09:41, May 14, 2018 (UTC)

Niko Lifeinvader
Hi. And i used the photos that looks exactly same with the photos in Niko's Photos section, Videos section and the Chinatown photo. Can you take a look at them? GTAFan86 (talk) 12:20, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

What a relief
So you're reverting my edit on Ron Jakowsky for it being speculation, then you have to change a ton of other pages too. Because; So you see my point? Ron Jakowski being Polish is as true as a fact, because it's blatantly obvious.
 * It was never stated in-game that Tommy Vercetti, Vincenzo Cilli and Salvatore Leone were Italian.
 * It was never stated in-game that Cisco and Ricardo Diaz were Colombian.
 * It was never stated in-game that Cesar Vialpando and Catalina were Mexican.
 * It was never stated in-game that Victor Vance and Lance Vance were Dominican.

Hotring Circuits
Hey, buddy. Just wanna let you know that I updated all Hotring Circuits thumbnails/headers or whatever they are called , since they aren't offering double earnings anymore. They have a lower resolution when comparing with your screenshots, because I got them directly from Social Club. Cheers :) Ronald (talk) 18:40, May 19, 2018 (UTC)

Whaaat?
The last time I play GTA Online is this year, and I've found that in order to drive into Fort Zancudo, jumping in is unnessesary, as cars can normally drive in and out at a checkpoint. I've done hostile takeover with kuruma at there multiple times, so it does not pose as a problem for me.

Also please do not undo my edits on Airfrieght, because I was giving positive tips at that time.

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 11:02, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Emmm, if say, no tips allowed since here's documentation, then why don't it just get deleted? (I mean getting rid of those tips since we are not here to teach how to play blah blah blah)

I just wonder if there's anywhere I can help on the wiki, because I always do the wrong things and wasting your precious time to revert them. All I wanted to do is to be a trusted user.

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 11:54, May 21, 2018 (UTC)

Hmmm
I still didn't realize anything wrong on the trivia page edit of Give Me Liberty. I know that trivia is best to be removed to be emmilinated, but the first sentence is very confusing. Tell me why I am wrong (Otherwise I may get blocked)

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 11:47, May 22, 2018 (UTC)

Reply
Hmmm, I just saw what you posted on my wall, but I have a question. If it's a different vehicle, would it be in a seperate page?

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 11:10, May 25, 2018 (UTC)

Torpedo Run
I'm not vandalizing the article. I just edited it by changing a few words, then when it tried to save the changes, it took like forever, and I was impatient at it so I closed it, then I found out that another user restored the page and the history log said I removed all the content? I'm still confused about what's going on.

SUPER4geditTANK (talk) 14:21, May 26, 2018 (UTC)

Request for page deletion
Requesting deletion of page "American Dad". The page completely consists of fabricated material. There is no evidence to back up the claim that "American Dad" was the name of a mission that was removed from GTA IV. Thanks. Sebbellic01 (talk) 08:50, May 28, 2018 (UTC)

Since got blocked
Hey Kiwismurf, why did you block me? Because i just edited the info about the Euros since it was based on the Nissan 300ZX just because of the name alluding to Europe, the euro currency and questioning its origins towards Renault (which owns Nissan and Mitsubishi today). - ialociN
 * About the Euros is that the car was based on the Nissan 300ZX (Z32) but has the bumper and rear of a Z31, the previous generation. And it is only appeared in GTA: SA so does the car is known for being the slowest sports car in the game while its acceleration and speed is fare inferior compared to some sports cars. Which references to not only Nissan's ownership by Renault since 1999, but for its name (Euros) pertaining a reference to the European Union so does its currency used by its member countries due to the fact that the European Union is an institution that inspects the conditions of products that depends on the country of origin especially they are those who impose the regulations on the car's performance. ‎

Norm Richards and Karim Denz
Kitehang (talk) 23:32, June 16, 2018 (UTC)I'm pretty sure if RIchards gets arrested in the jewlery heist and Denz gets arrested in the big score heist, they get sent to Bolingbroke Penitentiary.Kitehang (talk) 23:32, June 16, 2018 (UTC)

The 2 random event that runs from cops guys too
Kitehang (talk) 01:07, June 17, 2018 (UTC)I'm also sure if they get arretsed instead of killed, they get sent to Bolingbroke too. And again with Denz and Richards too. If they get arretsed, they get sent there as wellKitehang (talk) 01:07, June 17, 2018 (UTC)

Pictures
Why can't I upload any pictures GTA related to the wiki?? Rickdrumz (talk) 03:54, June 25, 2018 (UTC)

Lamar
Just curious why my edit was reverted when it’s a proven fact?

RE:
Thanks! --RoachTheIntelCollector (talk) 20:11, July 1, 2018 (UTC)

Mission Transcripts
Hi, I was going through the mission to-do-list and noticed that transcripts were needed for GTAV missions, just wondering where you wanted them, whether on the page itself or a new page for example: Prologue/Transcript?

--~ Daniel Viglietti 02:14, July 2, 2018 (UTC)

Manual of Style
Hi, I'm checking the manual of style, there are 2 things I don't understand from the "Bold, Italics and Link Usage":


 * 1) What does exactly mean "Following from this, headings of GTA games must be both full form and italicized, but not linked."?
 * 2) Then it says "Titles of television, film and radio programs, musical albums, games and newspapers and magazines within the GTA universe itself, as well as real life equivalents of these, must be italicized as well. // Following from this, headings of these in-game works must also be italicized, but not linked." Does it mean that everytime I mention a radio station I have to write it in italics? And by writing the headings in italics does it mean that in the article of, say, Bounce FM, I have to put "Playlist", "Video", "Trivia" and "See Also" (i.e. all the headings in italics)?

Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 01:42, July 4, 2018 (UTC)

Halloween Suprise Revert
Excuse me, why was my edit deleted?

Why???
Hey, Kiwismurf. Just Curious Why Was My Edit Was Reverted When It’s A Proven Fact? (On The Kyle Chavis Page)

Ryder And Beverly Forever!!!! GROVE STREET 4 LIFE (talk) 05:09, July 8, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Protection
No prob, man. 15:42, July 10, 2018 (UTC)

GTA Episodes From Liberty City
Hi, I hope you're doing fine. I want to ask you if you could let me create a redirect page called "GTA Episodes From Liberty City". See, the thing is that with the exception of that one, all games have redirect pages when you just type "GTA" and then the name of the title (as in "GTA San Andreas" instead of the longer "Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas"). So, for the sake of uniformity and standardization when writing all the links, I would like to have that redirect page created. Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 09:43, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

CMC
Yeah, I've been getting a tonne of screenshots and information about businesses, focusing on Cypress Flats lately, and noticed there seems to be at least a couple of CMC places. CMC will likely become an article for the business and if the buildings are prominent in missions (not sure?), we can designate them separate articles (since they are quite large). Monk ( Bureaucrat ) Talk 10:25, July 13, 2018 (UTC)


 * Yeah, as part of the Gang Attacks updates, I'm looking at any locations that need pages (like the "Cherry Pie" Farm and I found the Great Chaparral instance of CMC was added by Cloudkit01, so it has to be taken with a fairly large dose of skepticism, except it was when he was being constructive and added legit ones at the same time. Damned if I can find any signage for it anywhere in Great Chaparral though. <font size="4" color="#1589FF" face="Arial">Smurfy: <font size="1" face="Arial">illuminate - communicate - spectate 10:42, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Da Shootaz's Grand Theft Auto
Thanks for the help with the redirect page! I have one more request. I would like to have the article "Gangster Friday" re-titled to "Grand Theft Auto (song)". The thing is, I've been doing some researches and I found that the article is wrong. The actual title of the song is just "Grand Theft Auto", credited to fictional band "Da Shootaz", and the telltale sign, so to speak, is that the song is featured in the game's radios. The song "Gangster Friday" instead is credited to fictional band "Slumpussy" and doesn't play in any of the radios of the game (instead it works as the title track, and plays in the scores screen and the credits at the end of the game).

I gathered these references, you can see in the credits of the songs that Da Shootaz's "Grand Theft Auto" is listed with the songs of the radio N-CT FM and Slumpussy's Gangster Friday is instead listed as "Title track":


 * 1) CD of GTA 1 at Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/es/Various-Grand-Theft-Auto/release/10978924
 * 2) PDF of the manual of GTA 1: http://gtamp.com/GTA1/gta1manual.pdf
 * 3) PDF of the manual of GTA III (when "Grand Theft Auto" is featured again, on the Lips 106 radio): https://www.rockstargames.com/img/manuals/en_us/GTATrilogy_GTAIII_PS2_Manual_M01.pdf

Regards.--Vagoperezoso (talk) 11:07, July 13, 2018 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
Do you think you would be up for it? It's either you or Sam, both long standing staff members who are equally gracious here, would be a fantastic move ahead for more potentially successful admins. What do you think? :) (No, I didn't copy/paste the message, both personalized :p) <font size="4" face="Tahoma">Monk ( <font color="#4DFF00">Bureaucrat ) <font face="Tahoma">Talk 18:28, July 13, 2018 (UTC)