Talk:The Holland Play

Mission name
Well, to be precise the mission's name is "...The Holland Play", as seen in save games, loading screens etc. – along with the three dots. —Faalagorn☎/✓ 22:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC).

Sorry for my angry words but seriously, WHAT THE FUCK is that mission saying that it unlocks the mission That Special Someone? BULLSHIT, I CAN COMPLETE THE MISSION AFTER COMPLETING THE GAME, THIS IS KINDA LIKE A OPTIONAL MISSION, so SERIOUSLY, SOMEONE FIX THIS. -feargm 10:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC).

Actually, the correct name is "The Holland Play..." or at least this is how it appears in save game for the PC version of GTA IV. --SilentResident (talk) 18:22, October 7, 2017 (UTC)


 * I can confirm, having played this mission before, it was displayed as "The Holland Play...", that was on the Xbox 360 version of the game. Renamed. Monk Talk 18:27, October 7, 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for confirming this. So at least it is confirmed that in the PC and Xbox 360 versions of the game, the correct is with ... at end of it. Thanks. --SilentResident (talk) 18:37, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

@ Monk: I found that were wrong with the name. Actually, the mission "The Holland Play" consists of 2 sub-missions that are named similarly to each other. The first submission is called "The Holland Play...", followed by the second which is called "...The Holland Play". The first mission happens before the second, so Niko Bellic has to complete "The Holland Play..." before he can proceed with the "...The Holland Play".

I saved the game after both parts of the mission were completed, and I took a picture here: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gtawiki/images/f/f4/20171007231629_1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171008124350

Now I wonder if renaming the article from "The Holland Play" to "The Holland Play..." is still a good idea. I am suggesting now that we revert back to the previous article name and add a note in the Trivia section of the article about the two similar names the submissions of this mission have. What do you think? --SilentResident (talk) 12:46, October 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * I think an appropriate solution would be to name the page The Holland Play and re-title the The Holland Play to The Holland Play and The Holland Play to The Holland Play and have 2 redirect pages pointing to each anchor section in the main article. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 19:59, October 8, 2017 (UTC)


 * I added Trivial info about the "The Holland Play" actually being 2 missions:
 * Since the English isn't my native language, feel free to improve or re-word it better if can you. Enjoy. --SilentResident (talk) 13:54, October 9, 2017 (UTC)