Talk:Pavel

"Vlad"
Vladimir Glebov and Pavel's uncle Vlad are not the same person:  kamikatsu_  Talk  03:44, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Pavel never mentioned the surname Glebov (I've checked every audio file) and never said his uncle was a loanshark.
 * Uncle Vlad is a fishmonger who has a severe hand injury due to a plasma cutter accident (according to Pavel in The Cayo Perico Heist finale).
 * The cousin joke at the O'Neil Ranch is an obvious incest joke, and definitely not the first incest joke about the O'Neil brothers in the series. Not a reference to the cousins Bellic.
 * And the reason every removal has been undone to date is nobody provided any evidence to contradict the two quoted references. 'I disagree' is insufficient. I am away from my PC at the moment so couldn't check all his audio for contradictory or further supporting quotes. The 'Incest joke line' did not require the 'uncle' line to be an incest joke.

"Uncle Vlad is a fishmonger who has a severe hand injury due to a plasma cutter accident"

- according to Pavel in The Cayo Perico Heist finale.


 * That is all we needed to disprove the interpretation of the other two lines, thank you. Relationships removed. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 04:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Idk man, I think RandomGTAGAmer did a good job disputing it in the edit notes, only for you to remove it with zero explination. - Universetwisters (talk) 04:44, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Revisiting this due to false "evidence" supplied above. Pavel mentions his uncles multiple times, the ONLY time he names one, it is the fish-gutting reference (which, by the way, does not make Uncle Vlad a fishmonger, just as likely someone who fishes for recreation - just like the hunting reference warning about carrying too much in the heist loot bags does not make that particular uncle a professional huntsman). He clearly has more than one uncle, just as he has more than one auntie. Not every uncle line is a reference to the one uncle he named. The plasma cutter accident line does not name that particular uncle as Vlad, nor does the O'Neils cousins reference. The cousins joke only requires the first line to be an incest joke. The "Look where this gets you, uncle" line is not about incest, so what is it about? I'm not reinstating the relationship yet, but there is actually no evidence to disprove the reference after all. Smurfy: illuminate - communicate - spectate 02:14, 9 February 2021 (UTC)