User talk:McJeff

If you leave a message on my talk page, I will respond here. If I leave you a message on your talk page, please respond there. I just like to keep conversations in one place so I don't have to switch pages to follow them.

This talk page is a swearing fucking permitted zone. Censorship asterisks are not permitted. Either refrain from swearing completely (which is cool) or belt that shit out loud and proud.

Out of town
I'll be in West Virginia for a week, maybe more. Jeff (talk|stalk) 15:27, June 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm still in WV and will be for at least another week, maybe more. Jeff (talk|stalk) 14:30, June 23, 2013 (UTC)

Help
any kind of good help would u do for meHadisa16 (talk) 05:28, June 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * What do you want help with? Jeff (talk|stalk) 13:05, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Correct
Hi Jeff, I want to know, what are the things that I didn't follow the GTA Wiki rules in it so I can correct my mistakes.Kingrhem (talk) 20:19, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

About the block
Why I was blocked for responding to jbanton's unprovoked pissy comment? I left my first opinion and then was belittled with "do some research" and:

" a view that indicates little research done before speaking. I suggest people do some research before voting if they wish to agree with this statemnt."

He has some sort of issue with me, and I have done nothing to him. If that is how he picks apart everyone then he does not have the temperment to be an admin. I called him insecure for his uncalled for attack on me, and then was met with a 3 day block, (thanks for just one) but he started it. I don't go around looking for fights. In fact me and Dodo have gotten past are conflict and have no problems now. Sasquatch101 (talk) 02:22, June 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * I was less than happy with JBanton's comment that he's been "tempted to take a dark route", but if you see a fight brewing between you and another user it's best to talk to one of the bureaucrats instead of just laying into him. Can you tell me how all this started? I'm on my way to bed but I'll try to get the problems sorted between the two of you tomorrow. Jeff (talk|stalk) 03:04, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Community Noticeboard
Check out the GTA Wiki:Community Noticeboard. Boomer8 (talk) 03:59, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Archiving the Noticeboard
Hi Jeff, I was thinking after we get Boomer8's purposal finalized, I should archive the community noticeboard because the page is large and up to 10,000 size in bytes.

Mr. T., That&#39;s Me! (talk) 15:47, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Libel
Hey Jeff. I created the Libel page without knowing there's already a page about it (LibEl). I added the content from the original page to the second one and improved it. I think LibEl should be deleted because is not abbreviated as LibEl, but simply 'Libel (see the logo).



Dodo8 Talk


 * No worries, I'll just redirect it. Redirecting's often better than deleting. Jeff (talk|stalk) 16:06, June 17, 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. :) Dodo8 Talk



RE: Delete
Hi, sorry about that. I'll make sure I will just add the template at the top for the future. Ciao :) Instulent (talk) 15:55, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

Gurning Chimps page
Why did you revert my edit on the Gurning Chimps page? VEO15's info is wrong.

Gurning Chimp (talk) 16:09, June 18, 2013 (UTC)

There Needs to Rename One Page
I think this page should be renamed to Mr. Johnson 'cause the page 'bout Toni Cipriani's father ain't called Toni Cipriani's father, it's called Mr. Cipriani. So I think there needs to do the same with this page. povke (talk) 18:06, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it's fine where it is, but you can feel free to start a rename proposal on the article's talk page. Jeff (talk|stalk) 23:28, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Userbox
Hi Jeff, I saw in your profile the userbox "This user doesn't believe in any GTA Myths", however I liked the userbox ( as I don't believe too ) and I would ask you where I can find it, because I didn't found in the category. Thanks --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 16:35, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * I "hard-coded" it into my page. I'll make a template out of it, just gimme a minute or two to remember how. Jeff (talk|stalk) 17:13, June 19, 2013 (UTC)


 * OK, you can add it to your userpage with . Jeff (talk|stalk) 23:19, June 19, 2013 (UTC)

Rename
Hi Jeff, there is a page with wrong name. The page is Westen Company Vehicles, it's need to be renamed to Category: Western Company Vehicles. Kingrhem talk 12:09, June 20, 2013 (UTC)

A Particular User...
Hey, Jeff, I should warn you about a particular user: User:Povke.

About seven months ago, this user operated on two accounts: accounts User:Povilas Povke and User:Povke PK. What he used to do that he would edit on his Povke PK, then switch to Povilas Povke then he would revert all of his PPK's edits and vice versa. If I can recall Ilan or Tom blocked both of his accounts for this. He came back under new accounts, such as this this, and this, whick are all blocked.

I suggest we block him, but because he only made five edits and they're not negative, let's just keep a sharp eye on his actions.

Out, Mr. T., That&#39;s Me! (talk) 02:56, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I noticed that no one explained to him that multiple accounts were against the rules, so I left a very clear, very stern explanation on his talk page. I don't really expect him to listen to it (since he should've known he was doing something wrong when his other accounts kept getting blocked), but sometimes it pays to have good faith, and sometimes it's best to warn before punishing because if you don't malcontents whine about "corruption" and "abuse of power" and other such nonsense. Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:24, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * Understood. At first, I saw two accounts named almost the same. I didn't mind it, but when I saw what he was doing, I was about to tell an admin or a bureaucrat, but I saw Ilan blocking him immediately. His edits and undos on his accounts proved his blocking reasons, then he kept on coming back. Now that he hasn't done anything bad and he knows about the multiple accounts rule when/if he reads your warning, it's best to not worry about him/her/it.


 * Mr. T., That&#39;s Me! (talk) 23:41, June 21, 2013 (UTC)



Community Noticeboard problem
--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 08:09, June 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Jeff, I'm trying to write my new article (idea) in the community noticeboard but I can't change to the source mode. What happened and what I need to do?

No more problem, now it's resolved. --Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 20:34, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Fruit Computers
Hi Jeff. I was thinking that we should separate the Fruit Computers page in to 2 different ones (3D Universe & HD Universe). They have many products in both universes and it might be hard for readers to understand that. Dodo8 Talk
 * I will go forward and do it. Dodo8 Talk

2 photos need deleting
Hey Jeff, could you delete  and, as they are both fake.. Ciao Instulent (talk) 08:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Watch Dogs Affiliation
I just checked the community noticeboard and saw that the Watch Dogs Wiki affiliation request failed on account of not getting a 70% vote in favor. The Watch Dogs Wiki logo though is still in the Affiliates section on the main page; so in it probably should be removed. I'm just saying this because I know you're busy much of the time and may not notice. Anyways talk to you soon. Sasquatch101 (talk) 04:06, June 26, 2013 (UTC)

Boomer's block
Hi. I heard about Boomer's block. I don't know how to tell you but... Ilan told me a while ago about what a good editor Winter Moon was. I'm not defending Boomer, but he was quite right in that post. You should encourage Winter Moon to be more active. Dodo8 Talk


 * BTW, you forgot to add a punctuation sign after "by their request" on the Policy page. I would do it myself but is locked. Dodo8 Talk


 * I didn't block Boomer for thinking Winter Moon ought to be demoted for being inactive, I blocked him for personal attacks. Jeff (talk|stalk) 14:24, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed with that. Boomer should have said it kindly, since Winter Moon never said bad things about Boomer. BTW, I think I should stop talking about Winter's demotion. I don't want it to look like I'm saying it because I want to get promoted. :( About that, no matter if WM is demoted or not, do you think I could apply sometime soon? I should ask the other bureaucrats too, though. Dodo8 Talk


 * Once the current dustup settles I plan to propose raising the staff limit by 1. Like I said before, if GTAV comes out and Winter Moon is still barely active, then maybe Messi and myself will be more inclined to support demoting him. And when someone proposed raising the admin limit by 5, there were some good points made that even if raising it by 5 was too many, 1 or 2 might be good. Jeff (talk|stalk) 20:12, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Demotion alternative

 * If Winter Moon is demoted, you may apply. Jeff (talk|stalk) 18:55, June 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Jeff. I left a possible alternative to the wintermoon demotion issue. I don't want to get back into it so I just want to let you know its in the comments section of the demotion request. But just for the record, I can apply for admin if wintermoon is demoted right? Once again my whole ideaology is explained in the comments and I think it is at this point the best way to deal with a possible demotion. Thanks, Sasquatch101 (talk) 05:05, June 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * If Winter Moon is demoted I think the best option would be a Admin-Bureaucrat only vote. There are many patrollers who want to be promoted, and I consider the patrollers will only care about their requests. But for now, Winter Moon is not demoted, so let's not speculate. Dodo8 Talk


 * Hmmm, so what about now? Anyways... Dodo8 Talk


 * Hey Jeff. Do you like soccer? If so, who's your favorite player? Dodo8 Talk


 * Only sport I watch is NFL. I used to watch a bit of soccer, but my home team (Baltimore Blast) folded and I quit. Jeff (talk|stalk) 16:40, June 28, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's a bad thing when your team foldes. It makes you feel you don't like that sport anymore, anyways. Dodo8 Talk

Demotion Deleted?
Hey Jeff. I just came on tonight and saw that you took down the wintermoon demotion vote. I saw what boomer said and I aggree with you, but after you rightfully filtered the request, why would you remove it? I have no beef with WM. I respect the fact that he is a senior editor here and has done many worthy contributions. Boomers request was not exactly what I would have proposed. So with your blessing, could I craft a proper and respectful alternative to a demotion of wintermoon. It is no secret that I would love to be a possible candidate for admin, but this isn't about that. Wintermoon's situation could be handaled in a way that won't make him feel disrespected, but also allow growth for the wiki. I hope you'll agree to my proposition as I would like to have you and others see my proposal before you make up your mind. ThankyouSasquatch101 (talk) 04:46, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you wait about a week? Messi, Tom and I have to have a talk, and there's something else going on that I have to hear back from Wikia Central about. Like I kept on saying, I'm not opposed to demoting Winter Moon if that's what the community thinks is right, but the prior discussion was turning into a mess of ideas that need to be considered individually and not in the context of demoting someone. I now think we ought to gain community consensus on how to deal with "just barely active" administrators before we vote on demoting Winter Moon. Jeff (talk|stalk) 04:56, June 29, 2013 (UTC)


 * I wonder, does Winter Moon even knows that he's up for demotion? Dodo8 Talk

Idea
Hey, Jeff. I thought we could add some flags on the Staff page so the people who are from a different country, like Portugal, to talk to Istalo or Mikey. I'm still unsure if we should add the current citizenship or the origins. Here it is:

Bureaucrat.pngucrats
The Bureaucrats are senior editors on GTA Wiki. As well as being full administrators, they have management abilities where they can grant limited user rights. They can promote and demote rollbackers, administrators, moderators, and they can promote other users to bureaucrat although they cannot demote other bureaucrats. Demotion of users by bureaucrats on GTA Wiki is not done without a community discussion, unless absolutely necessary. In cases where the community cannot reach consensus on an issue, the bureaucrats may hold a bureaucrats-only vote to reach a decision.

Administrator.pngistrators
The Administrators are trusted editors, equipped with the tools to keep the wiki running smoothly. They can issue blocks to troublesome editors, revert vandalism using the rollback tool, delete and move pages. They are authorized to use the tools at their disposal to deal with issues facing the wiki to the best of their ability.

Patroller.pngllers
Patrollers are trusted editors granted the rollback tool to keep the wiki free of any vandalism. With a single click, they can revert edits.

BTW, do you know where Winter Moon is living so I can add his flag? Dodo8 Talk

--Thomas0802 (talk-Edits) 12:56, June 29, 2013 (UTC)
 * Do the flags mean the country where the user lives or the nationality? Bcuz if it's the nationality then I'm Brazilian and Tony is Mexican. :) But the idea is OK.